The Showing Color Podcast: Bloody Wrestling Content
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The Showing Color Podcast: Bloody Wrestling Content
Rumble Speculation, Clay's Shiny Belt Drama, and Will Cody Turn Heel? Let's Get Ready to Rumble!!
Excitement fills the air as the team delivers detailed predictions for the highly anticipated Royal Rumble. With lively discussions on potential surprise returns and expectations for the women's and men's Rumble matches, the hosts explore the significance of each wrestler's journey leading up to the event.
• Reflections on SmackDown leading to the Rumble
• Predictions for potential surprise entrants in the Women’s Rumble
• Analysis of the men’s Rumble candidates and dark horses
• Enthusiasm for the upcoming ladder match with history
• Sound arguments on how certain outcomes could shape future storylines
• Final thoughts reflecting collective love for wrestling and community engagement
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Speaker 1:Welcome in to the Showing Color podcast. This is Heavy D Wayno's on the call. Get it, get it. Noah's here, what up? Claybo Wes, little Wes and Little Wes are here too, but they're in the other room. Yeah, boys. So much to talk about Like literally everything We've not recorded in Since Christmas.
Speaker 1:Since Christmas, clay says I listened to the last episode. That's, you're the only person that listens, so we've not recorded since Christmas. A ton of stuff happened. I don't feel like we can cover everything. I got a replica belt. Clay got a replica belt for Christmas. We already talked about that, didn't we? Mm-mm? Oh, okay, clay got a replica belt. He's a champ. He carries it around. I cashed in money in the bank on him at Christmas, though we can't cover everything that we've missed. So we're just going to go and hit the rumble. Do the rumble predictions. Let Wayne go off on some stuff. Let Wes go off on some stuff. Let Wes go off on some stuff. Put some respect on some people, follow some figs, and we'll get through this. It's late at night. We're recording right after we watch Smackdown, before Rumble, so we can get the prediction show out to everybody. So I think we just let's just go straight into it. You guys want to go straight into it.
Speaker 2:Anybody want any opening remarks.
Speaker 1:Anybody want to say anything before we go into Rumble? Wino.
Speaker 3:Wes can eat shit yeah, he loves it.
Speaker 1:You can't. You're not wearing headphones. You have no idea what he's saying. I heard don't worry about it, hold on. So, on Smackdown tonight. Let's go over what was on SmackDown tonight. Wayne, have you watched the show? No, yeah, okay, briefly, yes, there it is the briefly part caught me. Yeah, sure, I watched it. Yeah, I watched it a little bit Briefly.
Speaker 1:Uneventful SmackDown, I thought for a pre-show before Rumble. Some uneventful SmackDown, I thought for a pre-show before Rumble. It was mediocre. Matches were decent. We got some really good promos. We got the Punk and Kevin promo. That Punk and Kevin promo, where they were just literally standing there and nobody said anything and the crowd was chanting holy shit, was awesome.
Speaker 2:Sorry for cussing. Sorry for cussing.
Speaker 1:But that was like Noah agreed with me, that I that during that show, that ko is like my one right now. Ko is. Everything ko is doing for me is turning to gold good or bad guy, he's, he's all around always baby I mean no matter what they're pushing him. It's because he feels like the same person, whether he's baby face or heel?
Speaker 5:oh yeah, because even if he is good, you know, he's still got that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know dad is wearing a kevin is right shirt. Kevin is right. I just want everybody to know that I do thank kevin. Never mind, let's get there. Let's get there. Sorry, kevin is right. Um, yeah, this is my favorite wrestling tournament round. It's great, um. So we assume women's rumumble is going to be the first match. Side note me and Clay and Rhino recorded a bonus episode with Rumble predictions. That'll be at the end of this episode. So if you stick around after the closing music, you'll catch me and Claybo and Rhino with our Rumble predictions.
Speaker 2:I'm not really in it for half of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just me and Rhino for the first half and, and Claybo and Rhino, with our Rumble predictions, I'm not really in it for half of it. Yeah, it's just me and Rhino for the first half and then Claybo. A lot of.
Speaker 4:O's.
Speaker 1:A lot of O's, just a lot of O's. We're all about the O.
Speaker 3:What All about the O Woo? There it was.
Speaker 1:There you go Too many O's. There it was. There you go Too many O's. But yeah, stick around after the closing music and you'll get some bonus content. It's like an hour, but let's go over it. Women's Rumble right. That's what we're going to start with. That's where we thank Women's Rumble right. Women's.
Speaker 3:Rumble Women's Rumble Women women's rumble, right?
Speaker 1:So, uh, women's rumble, women, women, women. Womble Wayne, do you think Charlotte is going to come back near the bottom or near the top? I think she'll be in the top 10, or you think she'll be in like 20 to 30.
Speaker 3:Mid, I would imagine, because we got the vignette, you know. So I mean it's not like crazy to the pot, but you know, I think she'll be in at 26.
Speaker 1:Clay always says 26, no matter who's there. Um the don't you think it's confusing that like that's. What we need to talk about is why. What is the reason? I know what Wes thinks the reason is, and he might not be wrong, but what is the reason that they spoiled Charlotte and her return?
Speaker 3:I think it's a couple things. I hate it One nobody cares about the women.
Speaker 2:I mean that's facts.
Speaker 4:I can say that, I can say that now we've got a different president.
Speaker 1:You're right, this is Trump's America.
Speaker 3:I think we're going to have a few surprises, honestly in the women's drum roll. Who do you think Name one, name one, I mean Becky, is a given, I think, right. I think Becky too. I think that, I think that I'm hoping AJ like it has to happen at some point.
Speaker 1:I don't think so because Punk's pulled it, because Punk mentioned it. That's why I don't think it's going to happen right it's going to happen at some point no, are you going to surprise?
Speaker 5:honestly, I'm excited to see what TNA sends over.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got Jordan Grace Jordan. Honestly, she's not.
Speaker 2:TNA no more, she's WWE.
Speaker 5:I'd love to see Hendry show up yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, we're specifically talking about women, because in the men's Hendry's- definitely going to be there.
Speaker 5:I'm just you know, Hendry's definitely there In general for surprises, surprises. That's the hinge, that's what I'm hoping for.
Speaker 1:that that pop's gonna be awesome too. Yeah, how about a guy that just got over by making a song? Yeah?
Speaker 2:yeah, it was impressive.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, I think the women's the biggest thing that's gonna happen in the women's rumble is gonna be the jade stuff, like I think that's gonna be like the big thing in that rumble, whoever it is, whether it be naomi or bianca or somebody else, that's gonna be the main thing. I think rumble, whoever it is, whether it be Naomi or Bianca or somebody else, that's going to be the main thing. I think.
Speaker 4:Don't you think Wes? Yeah, I think that. Also, I think Charlotte's going to come out last and win.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you think Charlotte will come out. She'll win. Has anybody won at 30,? Wayne, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, cody, cody, women's.
Speaker 2:Women's, women's. That's what I was.
Speaker 4:I'm sorry, that's what I was alluding to was she's going to come out like Cody did.
Speaker 1:And win, and win at 30. Yeah, that makes sense. They don't talk enough about Cody winning at 30. It's kind of weak when was that Was that last year or the year before?
Speaker 4:The year before?
Speaker 1:I think the year before yeah that's right, because Cody came out at 15 last year.
Speaker 4:Who won last?
Speaker 1:year Cody.
Speaker 2:Cody.
Speaker 1:Cody was back-to-back right. Yeah, man, if he wins again, I'll kill myself. He can't win again.
Speaker 2:He can't. He's got a match.
Speaker 1:You never know.
Speaker 4:But no, I think that she's going to come out at 30, like Cody did, and she's going to win.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I she's gonna win. Yeah, I could see that that's solid prediction. Um, we had some final four picks last night who we think it's gonna be like. It could be a bunch of random women, like if, if the jade things happens, it has to be some combo of jade or bianca or naomi and somebody to those girls.
Speaker 4:If you guys remember way back when jade first debuted, not as like her match, but when she just debuted, where? She signed first introduction to her. She turned around after you know like I think she's talking to triple h.
Speaker 1:She turned around and she was like nose to nose with charlotte, oh yeah, and like yeah, that's the thing um the feuds, though, like it doesn't make sense, I guess who's Charlotte's going to come in and feud with? It's not going to be Rhea.
Speaker 4:I don't think, because they're not going to do that again. It's going to be Tiffy.
Speaker 1:I don't know what just happened. Yeah, I think it'll be Tiffy. Tiffy's spot tonight on SmackDown was awesome. She looked awesome. I hate she's awesome. I very much dislike Candice LeRae. Everybody does Kludge not using the word hate. He very much dislikes Candice LeRae. We very much dislike Nia Jax. I very much dislike that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but sadly I think that's the Rumble winner.
Speaker 1:No, there's nothing to say about them. Don't talk to me about Nile Jackson.
Speaker 5:Absolutely. That's all I got to say.
Speaker 1:I'm glad that she didn't bust Tiffy's boobies. That's all I'm glad about. She looked like she was going to bust Tiffy's boobies, and she didn't.
Speaker 3:Busted boobies.
Speaker 1:Predicted winner for women's, because I'm done talking about it.
Speaker 3:I told you mine think wayne I want to go last because I have a lot of very okay.
Speaker 5:No, that's okay, I honestly don't know no idea uh, yeah, for the women's.
Speaker 1:I'm just mystery man yeah don't know or don't care. A little bit of both, yeah, I feel that.
Speaker 2:So, uh, that's Resident Evil yeah, I was about to say are you loading into another room? Resident Evil loading screen. Yeah, the wolves are gonna come out.
Speaker 1:That was awesome Clay, I know we said a bunch of our picks on the bonus episode, but I'm still gonna say mine. No, you say them here. They're not. They're probably not gonna listen to the bonus episode, so I said I'm not going to put those Rambles on it. I know that, unfortunately I think it's Nia Jax yeah, clay thinks it's Nia Jax. I don't think he's so far off it could be.
Speaker 4:I'm not saying that, that's not out of the realm.
Speaker 1:It would just make sense for the storyline. Yeah, it's either heat or not heat, and she has heat, I guess. If I don't like her, so I can't decide. I didn't used to like Dom. So, whatever, now he's more over than God. Ooh, ooh Speaking of Dom.
Speaker 4:During the Rumble pre-event, him and Penta got into it.
Speaker 1:Oh, I've seen that Penta knocked his hat off. Yeah, Yo, Penta's shredded. I forget that. He is just like he is a freak he is forget that he is just like he is a freak.
Speaker 2:He is so shredded also immediately my favorite wrestler. It's not even like I'm, just it's, I am, I am whatever.
Speaker 1:No no, ko's my favorite smackdown, ko's like my favorite person. Okay, in wwe, like penta, like. As far as wrestling, I just want to watch him wrestle all the time it.
Speaker 4:It's because of the paint and the mask combo. Yeah, he's got both Twofer.
Speaker 1:I don't really have any surprise entrances.
Speaker 4:Taco Twofer.
Speaker 1:The women's. I feel like we've touched on those so much just randomly. Becky, Charlotte, Jordan, Jordan's not a surprise, right no? A bunch of NXT girls.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because a lot of the girls are out.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say Roxanne, yeah, roxanne Perez. Roxanne, turn on the red light. Roxanne, turn off the red light. This dude cannot be serious for five seconds. Roxanne, turn off the red light. Clay cannot be serious for five seconds. Turn off the red light, clay. He gets so mad because I'm never serious. It was the most serious moment. I'm like oh yeah, did your pants come down? Is she though? Is she though?
Speaker 4:I think that was really loud. Clay you're right. I think there is going to be a lot of surprises from TNA just because half the women's roster is out.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I actually, before we started recording, I did see a video again of Dakota Kai get that missile drop kick and I didn't catch it. The first time when we watched it live, I thought it was just both boots in the chest but one boot in the chin, the other boot on the side of her head. So yeah, she is complete concussion protocol.
Speaker 1:I think Jordan Grace is going to win. I wouldn't be mad at that. I can see Jordan Grace winning.
Speaker 5:She could get a push, she's already going to be coming in hot anyways.
Speaker 1:Why no Spin it?
Speaker 3:All right. So I'm very much in the mood of working backwards. I think that's what I've been doing, working backwards, and the favorite is definitely Charlotte. That's what people think. I'm sure to a degree, but I don't know what you do if she wins, like she goes for Tiffy. Is that what you think? Wes yeah, but then what Does she win?
Speaker 4:Is Tiffy.
Speaker 3:John just gone, no way.
Speaker 4:No, they're saying that she's going to have a more darker, more like her dad persona, as in like heel flare.
Speaker 1:Really mean yeah, just drunk, and mean Doing planks in a bar. Touching people inappropriately.
Speaker 3:I just think there's no.
Speaker 4:Oh, I'm sorry. I was just saying they're saying she's going to be more of a heel.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, Wayne.
Speaker 3:I just don't think there's any way she wins.
Speaker 1:The Rumble or.
Speaker 3:The Rumble? Yeah, because her and Tiffany's great. I want to see it, but it's just not that time. They've not got a chance to build.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And if Charlotte does win the Rumble, then she's not going to do anything for the next until Mania to just feud with Tiffy the rumble. Then she's not gonna do anything for the next until mania to just feud with tiffy. You're right, and she's gonna lose. She's gonna win the rumble, then lucid tiffy. It's gonna make her look bad coming back off the injury. Yeah, I definitely think she's gonna be at mania, um, maybe like winning the chamber type thing. Uh, as far as winning the rumble, though, I think whoever does challenges tiffy for sure, and I'm thinking maybe Liv, liv, winning, because you want to think she's going to challenge Rhea and then she's going to challenge.
Speaker 3:Tiffany, just because, to be different, we don't want to see Rhea live again, which I'm fine with. We don't want Rhea to live too. I don't know, I think that's the only way to get there, because that's this real live's not gonna happen at Mania again. I don't think it happened at Mania, dude, but no, I don't know. We just miss each other, I don't remember. But yeah, so I'm going more towards like a, a live, so I'm going more towards a Liv. Whoever wins gets paid the TV.
Speaker 4:Do we think Alexis comes back? No, I don't think so. Yeah, you think the contract stuff's real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the contract stuff is real, she bad.
Speaker 1:Monroe's not here, so we don't have an insider Monroe's our insider, okay, let's.
Speaker 3:And also it gives live some, some, some, some gusto back something right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right, you're right you want to do final four, we can do final four. Who we think is going to be in the final? The final four? Women? Um, why? Who do you think your final four artists continue?
Speaker 3:uh well, definitely Charlotte, but of course, because I picked her to win, I'm not beyond good. But uh, jade, I don't know if we get the reveal of who attacked Jade during the Rumble, but I mean that's definitely Naomi, right?
Speaker 1:yeah, that could be Raw the next day.
Speaker 3:It's definitely Naomi right um, so insert legend Jade Charlotte. Uh, Right, so insert legend Jade Charlotte.
Speaker 1:Noah doesn't care, so we're going to skip him.
Speaker 5:I'm just opening ears right now.
Speaker 1:I know, bro Clay, you got your final four. I'm going to change mine up a little bit. I'm going to say Jade, charlotte, nia and Bianca.
Speaker 4:Solid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 4:I'm going to say Becky, Charlotte, Bianca and Jade, Solid yeah than. Jake Solid. Yeah, the only reason I'm not shitting on you for this, wayne, is I feel like they're going to start pushing Liv and Raquel as a tag team again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can see that too Okay.
Speaker 4:Because that keeps Raquel relevant, where she's just now come back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think Raquel will be getting eliminated fifth and Liv could be in the top four. I thought Liv was going to get eliminated fifth.
Speaker 1:I mean we're near the same page then I think Bianca, jade, charlotte um, I mean, I could honestly see Becky just because of that history there, but that's kind of where I'm at. But I think Jordan's going to win. But for Jordan to win, people have to take each other out. So it could be Jordan, grace, bianca, jade and Naomi in the final four, because those three have to take each other out, because Jordan doesn't have a feud with anybody, so she's not going to just come in and start pushing people around. I can see that, yeah, somebody has to do something. Either way, 20 minutes on the women's rumble is plenty. Next match the two out of three falls match. I'm super pumped for two out of three falls. I don't think we've had one in forever. Diy put on a show tonight. I think it'll be awesome. I got DIY winning though. Yeah, a tag two out of three is rare, right, wes?
Speaker 4:yeah, really rare for that.
Speaker 1:I've never seen one.
Speaker 4:I don't think two out of three is three.
Speaker 1:Usually singles match for sure when's the last time we had one, wayne?
Speaker 3:definitely a lot in the older days, but more recently, wait no.
Speaker 1:I thought somebody had one like 2023 Kurt. Angle used to have them all the time it was a few years back, but I don't think I've ever seen a tag team.
Speaker 4:No Punk and.
Speaker 2:Drew didn't do it.
Speaker 3:No, you like a.
Speaker 1:You like a tag team match In the Rumble? You think that spot could have been filled with something better.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 5:I think tag team matches Need their glory.
Speaker 1:It's an interesting fact that this is the first Tag team match For the glory. It's an interesting fact that this is the first tag team match for the titles on a PLE in like two years.
Speaker 4:It needs to happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you think about all the big tag team matches were all like there was Cody and there was nobody for the titles.
Speaker 4:It was throwaways.
Speaker 1:It's because they keep losing them on Raw and SmackDown.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but it needs to happen. Yeah, like Triple H is, you know he's rebranding it pretty much Like the tag team needs to be popular.
Speaker 1:That match is going to be fire. By the way, I think that match is going to be like high flying, high spots, yeah, but I mean he's turned it on its head.
Speaker 4:Yeah high spots. Yeah, he, but I mean he's, he's turned it on its head. Yeah, uh, because here for a long time there was too many tag teams and also no one cared diy wins dirty, everybody agree with that yeah wayne I disagree oh really
Speaker 3:guns I could see guns it's their first mania yeah and I don't, I don't think they're done with this feud.
Speaker 4:It's not Mania you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:It's not Mania, you're right. It's their first big kill, so I think they'll do it and this shoot is definitely not done. Probably the two best tag teams there is right, yeah, in there right now.
Speaker 1:They are. I mean, I guess the thing about the Machine Gun Kellys is.
Speaker 2:Don't you dare. I started that yeah.
Speaker 1:Don't you do that.
Speaker 4:Motor.
Speaker 1:City Machine Gun Kelly, they're old, right, they're kind of old. Oh, they're old.
Speaker 3:I mean Chomp is not a spring chicken.
Speaker 1:No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Well, neither is Gargano, no, it's Triple H.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's Triple H, wayne, get your facts straight. I know my bad, I forgot. Does anybody pop for being stupid like R-Truth? It's crazy, I know it's crazy that he just pops all the time. I love it so much. I love it, it's perfect Underrated wrestler Did you?
Speaker 3:see his Twitter post About the Triple H. It was a picture of Chomp. I said congratulations, triple H. I love it, dude.
Speaker 1:When they were walking to the ring earlier I was like he's not wrong.
Speaker 2:He looks like Triple H and Gargano acts like Shawn Michaels.
Speaker 4:He's not totally wrong.
Speaker 1:Calls him like Shawn Michaels. He's not totally wrong.
Speaker 3:It's hilarious, hilarious. I love the guns. I watched OT&A when it was relevant. It was good. I've seen the guns get together. I'm a guns fan.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I know it. I do love the guns too. On top of that, it's like it's almost like watching the Hardee's if they were to stayed in shape and healthy.
Speaker 1:You know what, wayne you? You turned me over on this because I was trying to figure out how pretty deadly fit into the situation.
Speaker 3:And they should be gone. Oh, that's a bad take, I'm really I was trying to figure out how Pretty Deadly fit into the situation.
Speaker 1:They don't. They should be gone. Oh, that's a bad take. I'm a big fan of them. I think they're really good. I think they're really good. What are you doing? Which one do you want? What do you want?
Speaker 4:Something to boo him.
Speaker 1:There you go. You got booed.
Speaker 3:You got the boo bar, Wayne I think they're good, because I hate them so much? Oh, that's true, that's probably real.
Speaker 1:But anyway, match is going to be good Predictions DIY rap. But here's what I was saying is that you kind of turned me over on it because they keep talking about Pretty Deadly helps them, they'll get a title shot. So I think they're not going to have the titles when Pretty Deadly helps them, like helps them, and they still lose, and then they just have a feud with Pretty Deadly for no titles.
Speaker 4:That could work.
Speaker 1:And Machine Gun Kelly's have the titles. I can see that, so you sold me on it. Done Mark Fingers in the air. There we are, penta. Yeah, it's Penta's thing. We weren't doing it first, but we did it. We didn't know I did it. It's a different part. Yeah, they don't matter about me. Y'all want to save, y'all want to do Cody KO.
Speaker 2:No do the.
Speaker 3:Rumble first.
Speaker 1:Do Rumble first, then we'll do Cody KO. Yeah, okay, go ahead, wayne.
Speaker 3:I'm going to do Cody KO, but I mean I got outvoted.
Speaker 1:You got outvoted.
Speaker 2:And you're not here.
Speaker 1:This is a democracy. You're right, this is not a democracy.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying it is not a democracy it's not, it's not.
Speaker 1:It's not because, no matter what people voted.
Speaker 4:I was going to say I was going to say we do the Rumble next, because I'm the boss, okay, all right.
Speaker 1:Final boss, the final boss, oh yeah. He's just not going to be wrestling anymore, is he no?
Speaker 3:That's what I want, because after that, after the Raw debut, he's just not going to be wrestling anymore, is he? No, that's what I want to happen. That's what I want to happen.
Speaker 1:After the Raw debut he's just not going to wrestle anymore. No, you think he's going to wrestle anymore.
Speaker 5:I'd like to see it, but I mean that Netflix premiere just kind of destroyed it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it destroyed that character.
Speaker 1:Good podcasting Segway straight into the Rumble he could also win the rebels.
Speaker 5:So I did see something online. I don't know if it was just like he could win the rumble challenge, cody, yeah, like I don't know if it's just like someone posting fantasy book and what they's like. You know he's the boss, like he could come in at 31 if he wants, right, that's, that's what that's what he said that's what, that's what somebody else said, that he was gonna come in 31.
Speaker 1:you said that, no, that no Rhino did. Oh, rhino said that. Rhino said he thinks Final Boss is going to come in at 31 because he makes an executive move.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I love that. I've been saying that for months. I would love for that to happen, but Netflix.
Speaker 1:I just, I just don't think he's there, I don't think he's going to do it, but I, but I could see it, I don't either I actually honestly just don't know. Really, I really just don't know. I don't think so, but I don't know.
Speaker 3:I think I just want a big shit heel. That's what I want.
Speaker 1:Who do you guys?
Speaker 2:think is one. Next is Manor Hill.
Speaker 1:Is Punk no no, no, noah, who do you, I think, final 2.
Speaker 5:You might have to come back to me. You might have to come back to me.
Speaker 1:You think Punk comes in one. I think Final 2, oh, the first two.
Speaker 4:I'm going to tell you they're not going to let, yeah, they're not going to let Punk be number one.
Speaker 1:Oh, first two is Melo and Trick. Yeah that's what Clay thinks.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think he's probably right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I like that, that's huge, I agree. Yeah, let Melo come out first.
Speaker 1:Unless it's Melo and Andrade, and then Trick is free.
Speaker 4:Oh my god, that might even be a better bar.
Speaker 3:That's good, that's really good Melo and.
Speaker 2:Andrade.
Speaker 3:Sign me, that's good.
Speaker 1:It's got to be Melo and Andrade, right, because after the match tonight too, so what time?
Speaker 4:I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Melo just had a match with Jimmy.
Speaker 4:What number is Matt Jeff coming out? I?
Speaker 2:don't even know.
Speaker 3:I don't think you can get.
Speaker 1:Matt, do you? I don't think you can get Matt.
Speaker 2:I think you can get, jeff, you don't think you'll get them both.
Speaker 1:I don't think you'll get them both. We just signed a multi-year deal with I don't think I don't think the people care about matt. I just I just don't. I think they care a little bit about matt, but I think they care a lot about jeff. They care about matt when it's tag team they care about matt when it's tag team, but matt in a solo is not going to do anything for anybody, unless unless it's like 19 and 20 yes, I mean they're going to be together but the problem with that is there's so much time in between the other one coming out that it loses a little bit of All right, let me readjust that question.
Speaker 4:What number do you think Jeff's coming out?
Speaker 1:19. 19. Yeah, I definitely think Jeff's coming out. I don't even think it's like. I don't think it's.
Speaker 4:Jeff's going to be there. He was at the meet and greet.
Speaker 2:He was at the meet and greet.
Speaker 4:Is he going to be?
Speaker 1:Enigma, or is he going to be OG, hardy Boy?
Speaker 4:I would like to see him be OG Hardy Boy, but I think he's going to come out as the tree Willow.
Speaker 1:Willow.
Speaker 5:Willow, he has been talking about bringing that back.
Speaker 4:I wouldn't be mad.
Speaker 3:Here's a question Go ahead, does that take away from Joe Hendry by having Jeff no?
Speaker 1:No, and why? Because I believe in Joe Hendry.
Speaker 4:Well, first, they've made a big deal with combining with TNA Two half the roster's out, so they're going to have a lot of TNA people in that too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, question, I can see it. Do it. Does he come out in the feigned face paint?
Speaker 4:No, I think that was a one and done.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I think he'll come out in the willow because of the fiend, because he said he's got a new mask from the same people who did fiend stuff okay um, but I think the the face paint with fiend was a one and done ode to him during a match, like I don't think he'll do that again okay, that's just my opinion, I agree.
Speaker 1:So we got some surprises out of the way. Everybody thinks Joe right, absolutely, I think Phoenix.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, clay thinks.
Speaker 1:Ray Phoenix. I could absolutely see Ray Phoenix. Osmosis Jones, I actually think Wayne's right, I actually think Odyssey Jones yeah. I think I actually think no right. I actually think Odyssey Jones.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think. I actually think no, omos, omos, omos, he's coming out, you know that's so funny.
Speaker 1:Me and Noah just said today we were sitting there watching. I was like man. I'm pretty sure Omos is going to be in it because he gave his titles up. Yeah.
Speaker 4:He said he was going back to WWE.
Speaker 5:And then, along with Jeff Hardy, he was at the meet and greets too today.
Speaker 3:I really want Breaker to eat him. I don't know what to happen, big E's coming back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wes cried.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Clay's pretty sure Big E's going to come in and eliminate New Day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, clay's got all kinds of booking going on. Miz Miz is going to be in it, right? Yeah, he'll be in it. Karrion is probably going to eliminate a lot of people being there a long time what about the white six?
Speaker 4:yeah, I think they're dead. One of them's out, I don't know which one it is, but that's why they're out there.
Speaker 1:It's got to be Gacy rumor has it, it's Gacy it's got to be Gacy or the only two wrestlers. There's only two wrestlers in the group, but one of them I know what that they said.
Speaker 4:That's why it was. It was because the lexibliss thing fell through with the contract. Well, they're dead now and one of them uh, one of them got hurt, so that's why they moved into SmackDown they're not really doing anything with them.
Speaker 1:yet If they don't show up at Rumble, they're pretty dead. Do you think Nikki Cross will be in the women's?
Speaker 2:I don't think so. I think it'd be crazy. I think it'd be crazy for her to come out by herself.
Speaker 3:But I mean she might. Are they still yet to be on the PLE? They might not be on one yet? Not even an appearance. No, not even an appearance.
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 3:Not at all. No, which a lot of people isn't?
Speaker 5:Yeah. Something that big you would think they should be.
Speaker 4:They pushed that hard though, this year I got a good one. I got a good one Goldberg.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's real, that's real.
Speaker 4:I know he's coming back. He's doing stem cells right now.
Speaker 1:Gilbert, I hate everything about it. Yeah, no, nobody.
Speaker 2:What do you think? What?
Speaker 1:fans want Goldberg, Like I don't understand why we're putting Goldberg Just his son. There's no fans that want Goldberg. I've never talked to anyone who wants Goldberg in a match.
Speaker 4:Oh, I know, rumor is Rumor has it. Scott Steiner's son is debuting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because his college career is done.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It works out perfect, it would make sense.
Speaker 4:They said that he's going to debut, which would be awesome, because then we'd get a new H Steiner cousin tag team.
Speaker 3:Do they tag or feud?
Speaker 5:It's WWE. Both's going to happen. Both's going to happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right, he's right.
Speaker 5:A couple times actually.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that'll be killer. That'll be killer. Final four yeah, do a final four. Clay, you want to hit it first? Yeah, yeah, I'll do it. Punk Cena, drew and Roman solid. I like it.
Speaker 4:I'm uh. I'm gonna say Punk Roman and Cena, not Drew. I'm gonna say Solo Punk Roman and Cena, Not Drew. I'm going to say Solo Because Solo's dropped so for him to come back.
Speaker 1:I can see Jacob making it far too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I can see Jacob. I was just saying because Solo just left, so I feel like it's a little bit quiet before the storm. So for him to return it's going to pop.
Speaker 1:But I did say today that I think Jacob Will eliminate the most people. I think it'll be like a Brock Lesnar. I think Jacob's coming in one, or he could come in one, and he lasts the whole time.
Speaker 4:I think that or they're all going to team up and flip him over like time. I think that, or they're all going to team up and flip them over like Omos.
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, you go for your final four.
Speaker 2:I'll do mine. I did mine. Oh, okay, sorry, why not?
Speaker 3:First a question Do we know the order of the matches? It's very relevant.
Speaker 1:We don't know yet, I don't know, we don't know yet, we don't know if the women's Rumble's first and then, I assume, the ladder match, and then the men's Rumble and then Cody. I think, men's Rumble should be.
Speaker 4:I think Rumble will close.
Speaker 1:Rumble could close. Like Wayne said, though Wayne's right, it completely matters, because if Rumble closes, it's going to be a surprise winner, and if Rumble doesn't close, it's going to be somebody you expect. True, Because something's got to happen.
Speaker 3:I want to go on the assumption that the Rumble is going to be last and with that my final four is going to be probably Punk. Maybe Rollins would be interesting Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens.
Speaker 1:So Kevin Owens in the final four. So he's going to be.
Speaker 3:He's going to lose. He's going to lose in the end of the Rumble. He's going to lose the code in the end of the Rumble to go again.
Speaker 1:So, if that's my, prediction If the Rumble is the closing match, that's bold, I got Dom winning my boy.
Speaker 2:I'm just a mark, but.
Speaker 1:I could care less. So who do you think is in the final four? Then Final four Finn, dom, come on, if we have the same final four, I might leave. I don't know. Roman and Punk, you mean to tell you mine? Yeah, I think it's Dom and Finn and Jacob and Solo. No, I'm telling you, I think it's all new blood. I think it's going to be all new blood. And you know who I think wins? I think Dom wins. Yeah, baby, I've seen the list.
Speaker 4:I know you've seen the list.
Speaker 1:Follow the figs. I think Dom wins.
Speaker 4:Follow the figs I think dom wins follow the figs. I'm just following the line that I see who's harder bro who is harder than dom punk?
Speaker 1:yeah, punk punk's god right, like punk is like, but it punk punk is. If punk doesn't win, punk is so easy to say. Punk is going to win, though, because we all just that's what everybody's expecting Is Punk to win.
Speaker 4:Because Punk should win. Well, I told you my argument. With that, it's AEW vs AEW at WrestleMania. The four years that Punk and Cody Were together at AEW the one match that everybody Screamed for, and Tony wouldn't even let them. The four years that Punk and Cody were together at AEW the one match that everybody screamed for and Tony wouldn't even let them interact with the general was. Punk and Cody.
Speaker 1:And here's why I agree with you even more on that. Okay, wwe for the last six months has been absolutely on purpose, sticking it to AEW, absolutely on purpose. It's not even like they ramp up NXT. They made NXT look like AEW, but better they steal their wrestlers. Aew wanted TNA, they wanted TNA so bad, they screwed that up so bad too.
Speaker 1:They messed it up so bad and WWE was like we'll take it instead that sounds great. And they didn't buy it. They did it right, tony Khan, I so bad too, dude. They messed it up so bad. Wwe was like we'll take it instead. That sounds, that sounds great. Yeah, and they didn't buy it. They did it right, like tony khan, I think, went into it wanting to buy it and and paul did it right or I guess it's tko board did it right that they just signed a deal with them and not just bought them.
Speaker 4:They will eventually absorb them, I think but I don't think it'll be like ecw, I don't think. I don't think they'll absorb them, I think, but I don't think it'll be like ECW. I don't think they'll absorb them. Just because everyone is loving, the whole back and forth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4:It's like because you never know if someone's going to pop up.
Speaker 1:We got JBL and William Regal all over the place, yeah that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:It's like they can jump again. Jbl plays three different characters. It's just like it's the old days. It really does. It's the old days with all of them Like, oh, we're going to go watch this indie event. Oh, wait a minute, there's a WWE JBL, what the hell you know? Like it's the excitement again.
Speaker 1:Of territories.
Speaker 4:You never know who's going to show up with territory and they're doing it right. Kind of like making new age territories.
Speaker 5:WWE doing like just going through the forbidden door, you know is just, it's the same thing right, me too, I mean it's not seeing any company do it, but seeing WWE do.
Speaker 1:It is just, I agree, you know, at one point we thought that never happened. Finger on the pulse, yeah.
Speaker 4:I think that forbidden door with AEW is going to come to a close soon because we talked about that deal, the NJPW thing. Yeah, where they combined all of.
Speaker 1:New Japan. That new owner is not going to do it. He's off it, he's not going to be with them. You know what we're talking about, wayne. Yeah, njpw is not NJPW anymore, it's New Japan, world World Organization or something.
Speaker 4:Because they've combined all of Japan's NGs into one.
Speaker 5:I didn't even know that.
Speaker 2:Yes, lit hot take.
Speaker 1:Going back to the women's rumble, surprise entrant Britt Breaker. No, why don't you think that Wes? Tell me why you might know. You might actually know why.
Speaker 4:Nobody wants her. Maybe not think that, west. Tell me why you might know, you might actually know why nobody wants her, even maybe not yeah maybe not so in in, it's just from she popped, though she popped, but at the same time it's uh or sky blue sky blue is more of a reality than brit breaker. Just because we've everybody's heard too much bad stuff about Brit.
Speaker 1:I need all cameras behind Sky Blue, no cameras in front of her. That was AW Talk.
Speaker 3:That's all the AW Talk.
Speaker 1:We're going to do Okay, so we got the rumble out of the way. Then Everybody's pretty much consistent. Oh, wino, didn't get Wino. Okay, I'm sorry, wino, you're not here. I forget about you. Go ahead and go off.
Speaker 3:It's fine, all right. So I want to actually meet my top four, because I forgot about Roman Zane, ko, roman Punk Because you got the Roman Punk interaction. Now you have KO. Because he's going to lose to Cody, just a given. Now my winner is going to be Sami Zayn. Here's why Listen, hold on, let me cook. We're cooking, hold on.
Speaker 4:You're cooking or you're clicking bait.
Speaker 3:Because I think we get to. I love the idea of Punk. Cody Love it. I think there's plenty of time to do it. I think we get to Roman Punk and Mania. They can have a little smosh in the final four Smosh.
Speaker 3:I think Sammy wins. I think Sammy wins. And you're going to think he's going to challenge Gunther because he beat Gunther, but in reality he's going to challenge Cody, or no, I'm sorry, in reality he's going to challenge Cody Because of the whole KO three-way thing that's going on where you think Sammy's going to try to heal and all that stuff.
Speaker 3:And KO's going to get mad because Sammy's challenging Cody to try to do it and he couldn't do it. Did that come through the mic? It's a better storyline. It's a better storyline. It's a better dynamic you think it's a better dynamic. I do. It's got layers, it's like an onion. Oh it's like parfait, because if Sammy wins, he's going to challenge Cody when it comes to Gunther. He beat Gunther.
Speaker 2:So you know you can beat.
Speaker 3:Gunther. He's not going to want Sammy to do it, because he wants to beat Cody and he couldn't do it and the other almost still couldn't do it and that's going to lead to KO.
Speaker 1:I think we're giving the whole show too much credit. I think Punk's going to win. I think Punk's going to win.
Speaker 3:I forgot about Cena too, by the way.
Speaker 1:Cena's not going to win because Cena's already been on the. Cena is on an advertisement poster for Elimination.
Speaker 3:Chamber, I think Going a little bit further with what I said, hey come back, did you hear? Me he challenges Cody at Mania. I don't know. Hold on, wait, what did you say?
Speaker 1:Cena was on the poster for Elimination Chamber.
Speaker 3:Right. So he wins Elimination Chamber and challenges Gunther, and then Gunther eats him, and then Zane wins and challenges Cody.
Speaker 1:That's my prediction You're such a fantasy booker, mark, do me a favor, wayne. Hey, do me a favor. Okay, look at your hand. Okay, look down at your hand. Take your pointer finger and touch your thumb. Okay, okay, and that should leave your other three fingers straight up in the air. Okay, go ahead and lift those high up in the air. Okay, right, and then go ahead and just flip it straight down.
Speaker 4:Okay, make that big m, because you mark son uh, sounds like you might need to get some tinfoil out too yeah, uh, no, it's good, that's what we're here for.
Speaker 1:We're here for that booking. Okay, let's get to where we all want to get to. Let's get to the ladder match.
Speaker 4:Can I say something about that? Do it. Actually, it's a question who's going to be busted open first, busted Busted.
Speaker 1:I think Cody shows color before Kevin does, because Cody is Dusty Rhodes' son. Also he's got more scar tissue.
Speaker 4:I mean with that blonde hair. The blood looks so good.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I've never seen Kevin busted open. I mean, I've never seen Kevin Owens, I've seen Kevin Skeen.
Speaker 4:Yeah, kevin Owens busted open.
Speaker 3:This conversation just got weird. All right, why busted open? Let's bust open podcast you made it weird.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know you're making it weird. Nobody else is weird. Uh, why? No, maybe I'm just weird yo. Um, who you think is busted open first?
Speaker 3:oh, oh, definitely Cody, because he's busted open. Yeah, that's what I think too.
Speaker 1:If there's blood, it's Cody's.
Speaker 3:Hey, there will be blood.
Speaker 4:Another question you think Dustin is going to show up?
Speaker 5:No way he's got a title. He just signed back with AEW. Damn. Yeah, he's got a title.
Speaker 1:Oh, hold on, Do I have a record scratch here? I don't have a record scratch, yeah, there is what's that? Ricky.
Speaker 3:Starks.
Speaker 4:Ricky.
Speaker 1:Starks will show up. Ricky Starks is going to be in the Rumble for sure.
Speaker 4:And then he's going to be Cody's main man.
Speaker 1:Maybe they might not touch him because they're friends. Usually, when people are friends, they don't touch him.
Speaker 4:I don't touch them.
Speaker 1:I don't know either way, ricky stark is gonna be there. Yeah, ricky stark's yeah absolutely rick stark um I don't know about ray phoenix or not, because I don't either limbo who knows, I ain't really, I ain't saying that much yet either way to be awesome he posted that picture in a straight jacket in in like a jail, so I don't think we're ready for ray, because if you bring back ray, you have to, you have to put him with Lucha Brothers, and we don't want. Penta needs a singles domination run Build.
Speaker 1:Do whatever with him. People don't even know who he is and they're excited about him. Put a mask on. He's the only real Luchador left in WWE, Like Rey Mysterio. Rey Mysterio is so old he can't do 619 anymore. Anyway, let's go back to this. Okay, ladder match. Why did Kevin Owens take the wing title tonight? I don't understand. That was so confusing to me. I was like are they both not going to be there then?
Speaker 5:Did they just grab the one? I feel like it's just because Kevin does what he wants.
Speaker 1:It is, but I don't understand the big picture.
Speaker 5:I couldn't give you an explanation.
Speaker 1:That rack is made for two belts. The whole thing was like. It looks like the original ladder match With the two intercontinental belts up there Because one of them was fake. It was the whole thing, and then Kevin taking that one really confused me, but that's all I wanted to say. Now I don't know if Wayne knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5:Unless something happens Tomorrow, pre-show or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's rare that anything Major happens on pre-show, or not even that but like there in the day, maybe too. Something could have happened already. While we're sitting here after SmackDown, that happens a lot, that does happen.
Speaker 4:Luke actually showed me something earlier too. Man, like it's got the cogs turning, because I don't know if it's real or not, but Ryback keeps posting videos.
Speaker 1:He told me in the car. He said Ryback has been working out and saying what am I working out for?
Speaker 4:Yeah, he keeps posting those videos of him working out.
Speaker 1:You think about Ryback Clay?
Speaker 4:Every caption says what am I working out?
Speaker 1:for I didn't really watch him Right. You know who it is, though. Yeah, I know who he every year he teases this right, he does. Yeah, I think he does. It's it's clickbait. Yeah, it's clickbait yeah but, I mean after twitter voted him to retire I think there's some other, uh, influencers who could be in it. No joke, let me tell you who I think bad bunny bad bunny could be because nobody's talked about him, but I I legitimately think um what culture could be in it, simon, that would be bad I legitimately think simon could be in it.
Speaker 1:I'd mark out for that right.
Speaker 4:Also, would not be super surprised if matt cardona was in it I don't see that uh-huh what pat, you think pat's gonna be in it again I don't think pat's in wrestling shape. He don't look like he's in wrestling, no but he was in wrestling shape last time and he just got in and got out. Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, do you think they're going to?
Speaker 1:take that spot like the Jerry the King Lawler time they did that. I hate when they take that spot for somebody.
Speaker 5:I might have just misunderstood what Pat was saying on the kickoff earlier, but he mentioned something about that. Aj Hawk, dude, that's on his, that's on his show.
Speaker 1:Oh, he mentioned about AJ Hawk.
Speaker 5:I missed the whole part, but that don't know, that would make so much sense to me that would make so
Speaker 1:much sense AJ Hawk would come in and do that.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he gives off wrestler vibes.
Speaker 4:Booker T.
Speaker 1:Booker T, he was in it. Yeah, but they did that, didn't they? Yeah man, yeah man.
Speaker 5:He was awful by the way.
Speaker 1:Hey, clay, yeah, this is your fault. We're off track. So bad, my bad hey you gotta, you gotta bring us, you gotta bring us back in. You're the bringer back in her uh, bring it back down uh, I'm excited about ladder match with two real wrestlers in it, like two. I think it's gonna be awesome. I think there's gonna be some. I'm excited to see just a two-person ladder match too, because the last ladder matches that we've had it's all been, have been all tags.
Speaker 1:Or you think randy shows up or is he in the rumble?
Speaker 4:randy's in the rumble for sure, I think randy shows up during the ladder match you think so.
Speaker 1:It depends on be both. Like wayne said, it depends on the.
Speaker 4:I think it depends on where the card lays yeah, yeah, no, you're up there, and wayne's absolutely right.
Speaker 1:I usually don't say that so yeah, let's get a, let's get a. West Wes complimented you, wayne. I've never seen that happen.
Speaker 3:He's on the shit when Sami Zayn wins. Sorry for cussing.
Speaker 1:That's true. Sorry for cussing. Maybe Johnny Knoxville should put him in a mousetrap.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, Don't do that.
Speaker 1:But hey, it actually sucked. It was awesome at the same time.
Speaker 4:KO has wore that shirt twice.
Speaker 1:The Sami Zayn Forever shirt the Sami Zayn Forever shirt with the heart I love it.
Speaker 3:Tell me, how interesting would it be to have that dynamic when his buddy he couldn't do it but his buddy's going to do it.
Speaker 4:Wayne is so pushing this.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's what's going to happen, man.
Speaker 1:I think this match is going to be awesome. I really really do think this match is going to be awesome. I think we're in for it. I think they're going to put on a show. I think somebody's getting hurt.
Speaker 4:I think somebody's getting hurt a little bit anyway.
Speaker 1:I think there's going to be a super cutter off the top of the ladder. It's going to be something nuts. It's going to be something nuts, I don't think that's going to happen. What about a package that, uh, that happened in roh on the ladder? Is that what you?
Speaker 2:see, oh yeah, here's what I think.
Speaker 1:No is that's. That's where I was at with it. I think we're gonna have a triple ladder, ladder on ladder. Have you know what we're talking about, wayne? Have you ever seen the, the package, the scheme package, pile driver on the ladder.
Speaker 5:It might have been like yeah, final battle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that I could see that happening right, because they did that spot last year in that in the money in the bank or in the tag team match for the belts well, andrada and carmelo did a spot on the ladder right that's what I'm saying, yeah, yeah and money in the bank and cody and k, I'll give it all. I think they'll do it. Oh yeah, but so does anybody have anything else on the match before we get to the prediction of the winner?
Speaker 5:Do we think there's any interferences? Do you think it's going to be just a solid match?
Speaker 1:It's got to be Randy. It depends on the placement. It's got to be Randy if it's a main event, Okay. So we're going to say who you think is going to say who you think is going to win and say whether you think they're going to win clean or dirty Wayne. I'm going to let you go first, Is that okay?
Speaker 3:That's fine Okay.
Speaker 1:Who do you think is going to win this match?
Speaker 3:Cody, cody, and there's definitely going to be shenanigans.
Speaker 1:Right Potentially KO getting screwed, ko getting screwed Right no.
Speaker 5:No, I probably have to agree with that. Yeah, because I for one. I just I don't see him taking the title off cody at all, for sure not yet, so he's he's for sure got the win clay's on to something there, not yet, at least. Yeah, I mean in terms of how the finish goes. Yeah, I don't know. I I could see cody. Cody has to win, dirty right see.
Speaker 1:Cody. Cody has to win dirty right. If he wins, he has to win dirty, it's going to be borderline questionable dirty. Questionable, dirty like the chair was.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's going to be. I'm telling you they're pushing him.
Speaker 1:Kevin is right.
Speaker 4:Homelander.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think we're ready, though I think that's it.
Speaker 2:I think that's ready, though. I think that's it. I think that's heel.
Speaker 1:Cody, we're just now starting to dislike Cody. I'm not saying it's going to be complete. I'm saying that's why it's going to be.
Speaker 4:It is You're going to be like well, it looked dirty, but I don't think it was. It was kind of like that border. He's right on the line, so it's going to be like a little glimpse of him.
Speaker 1:I think Cody definitely wins. But looking back at first main event looked like he won. Well, he did win dirty because there was no ref Crossroads him on the chair. Cody wins dirty.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but you know what? No one would have noticed if Ventura didn't bitch about it. Sorry for that.
Speaker 1:So I think Cody wins dirty, but I believe Kevin is still right.
Speaker 4:And I also think that's going to happen more and more.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 4:Is Cody winning? A little bit dirtier and a little bit dirtier every time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do too. I do too. He's going to do something dirty every time.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and it's going to get worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 1:And then it's going to bore the fans. I think we're going to get Hill Cody.
Speaker 4:Yeah, then it's going to be Scorchters Black suit, cody, what?
Speaker 3:Wayne, I agree, we've got to build the horse. We've got to build the horseman somehow. He needs to get dirty. Got to build the horseman somehow.
Speaker 1:We need to get dirty Got to build. The horseman Got to build the horseman. Got to get there. I mean, who's to say that the horseman has to be four men or four women? Who's to say that Charlotte can't be in the four horsemen? It'd be like Charlotte and Cody. You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5:Hey, I'd like to point out I just want everybody to know that.
Speaker 1:Arne.
Speaker 5:Anderson's boy still wrestles for TNA. That's my long lost cousin.
Speaker 1:You know that Arne Anderson also looks like. He's in phenomenal shape.
Speaker 5:He can still drop a spine buster.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying I think he could come in the round. I would love it.
Speaker 5:I think he could be there the Rumble. I would love it. Yeah, I think he could be there Wes.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying whenever Cody turns heel, your boys are going to be so depressed.
Speaker 4:I don't know, man, I think Lucas will kind of like it. I'm talking about Colt I think he'll appreciate it one day.
Speaker 1:I think girls will cry. I think little girls that love Cody Rhodes are going to cry because he's going to be so mean. If you watch Bullet Club shit, he's so mean, don't get me started. He's so mean. Listen, I have hopes. Right, I have hopes because people are in WWE, like Tama and Cody are both in WWE. I was like I have hopes for that At some point, when Judgment Day's done and Bloodline's done, I'd like to see Tama and Finn, but doesn't AEW have Bullet Club rights?
Speaker 5:though. Yeah, wwe, they still own the club, or anything like that.
Speaker 1:Bullet team.
Speaker 4:You know who else is part of Bullet Club, and it's Cody's best friend, stephen Amell. West's obsessed with Stephen Amell no Wes is obsessed with Stephen Amell.
Speaker 5:It's Green Arrow baby After watching Heels.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm obsessed with. What one?
Speaker 3:On the whole bullet clip thing and they didn't have the rights. You know what WWE does have the rights to Just saying Wolfpack. Nwo, nwo and Jeremy General, too sweet Wolfpack, nwo, too sweet Wolfpack With the mass destruction.
Speaker 1:Boys, you'd see a whole new version of me. If Wolfpack comes back, I'll lose my mind. I'll lose my mind If we get Wolfpack hey. You need to be really good in Wolfpack.
Speaker 4:Brom Breaker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the dude who literally wears Wolfpack gear Jacob Fatu, he wears Wolfpack gear. Who else?
Speaker 4:wears Wolfpack gear.
Speaker 1:Kevin Nash.
Speaker 4:Damien Priest.
Speaker 1:He wears purple or red dude the blood, damien Priest. He wears purple, wore red dude the blood. If we're going that way, though, that's just people honoring Scott Hall yeah, because Scott Hall trained him yeah, scott Hall's.
Speaker 4:He looks like Scott Hall that's what kills me, though, is he doesn't do the surfer walk, no more oh right, well, penta does it. I know, but before Penta even came back, he didn't do it.
Speaker 1:We talked about Penta's move.
Speaker 4:Yo the Penta Bomb or the Sacrifice.
Speaker 1:The Sacrifice is cool. That's so original to me, I think. Have you seen that the Sacrifice? You didn't know it.
Speaker 5:Like the pump handle, slam the arm bar.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah the arm breaker, Like puts them on the arm and flips their arm back. I do just want to ask this.
Speaker 4:Gosh, that is nasty. Have y'all known about Penta, prior WWE? Yeah yeah, death matches. Yeah Him and Chelsea.
Speaker 1:So I've been saying forever that I need him and Chelsea to have just not like an interact, not like a fight or anything, just interaction. I want them to walk by each other backstage and just look at each other. I think that would be awesome.
Speaker 5:We'd get a holy crap moment. You also got to think they've added intergender matches back in the new game.
Speaker 1:I know that makes me think that they're going to do that. What makes me think they're going to do it is that for sure, and it's just going to come down to I don't know. I thought that was going to be Rhea and Dom. I thought we were going to get it with Rhea and Dom. I thought like they were going to have a match. But I mean, either way, what did you say, wayne? I felt your head.
Speaker 2:I felt your heavy breathing. What, what about? I felt your heavy breathing. What you?
Speaker 4:felt what?
Speaker 1:What is it, Wayne? I hate you.
Speaker 3:The rumor is that Rhea is going to be in the men's trouble. I think it's stupid because she's you know She'd be in both.
Speaker 4:She'd be on China.
Speaker 1:Nah, I did that though.
Speaker 5:Nah, I did that and China did that, so what would it even benefit?
Speaker 3:It wouldn't do anything for anybody. It wouldn't.
Speaker 1:She challenged Gunther.
Speaker 5:I mean it might get a small pop, but she went and challenged Gunther.
Speaker 1:KO's not ready to win, even though I want KO to win. I think Cody's going to win dirtier than normal. I think you think KO walks off with a Wayne Deagle belt even though he lost. No, no, no, I think triple I don't think so.
Speaker 4:It's just a question.
Speaker 1:I think he'll take it.
Speaker 4:Or we get a new belt.
Speaker 1:Or we get a new belt. Yeah, that's real. I think we have too many.
Speaker 4:I think he means like a combined yeah because the wing is like the old belt that he carries I'm talking about. They're going to combine those belts into one because they are the same belt. It's just old and new.
Speaker 1:Okay, so Cody, cody's the winner. Dirty Right Wayne.
Speaker 4:Wayne.
Speaker 1:Cody's winner Dirty. Okay, so that's been Royal rumble preview. Right, yeah, we're going to do. I just want to mention Follow the Figs. The ultimates that got announced that are coming out are Finn Solo, damien and Dom. Dom, that's the ones that are coming out. Did I mention Dom? The female figures? Charlotte's got two coming out in the next two months. Rhea's got an ultimate, but Rhea's always going to have figures because Rhea's always going to be great.
Speaker 1:I think, the Charlotte ones are really important. I think the Charlotte figures matter and I know this sounds like just bullshit from a wrestling figure collector. But the math checks out. I'm telling you, don't it west the math checks out, always checks out. The figures that they announce. When they announce them, those wrestlers usually get a run man. It's almost almost always did gunther gunther, gunther's gunther's figure came out. Gunther's elite and basic came out before he won the title, and then he won the title and then his ultimate came out.
Speaker 4:It's a lot more real than Steiner Math.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they know what they're doing. It's obviously good marketing. You know what I mean. They just put them out. It makes sense. You want to see this person, you want their figure. I told y'all today that I think they moved Damien to SmackDown so he can get the US title from she. Yeah, yeah, oh, have we said Alistair Black?
Speaker 4:Nope, no, we didn't.
Speaker 1:That's why Zelina Vega got moved to SmackDown. She definitely. Alistair is one of those 100% in the Rumble, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100% in the Rumble, yeah, yeah, 100% in the.
Speaker 1:Rumble.
Speaker 4:He's making his debut in the Rumble.
Speaker 1:I don't know his music so I'm not sure I'm going to know I don't think so.
Speaker 4:It's going to be something different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's going to be Malachi, right.
Speaker 4:No, he'll be Alistair, alistair.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, right, right, he yeah. Did you think that Wayne 100% Alistair's there?
Speaker 3:I think it's too soon. I bet he's in some con BS. I don't think he can.
Speaker 1:The only reason I think he is is because they moved Zelina quickly. Yeah, they did. They moved her for no reason. I think that means they're trying to split LWO up.
Speaker 3:That was the crime, baby. I obviously don't know the difference between LWO and the other guys LDF?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, that's how I feel about the figures. Anyway, I really have the only input on that.
Speaker 4:No, I agree with you with that.
Speaker 1:I know, I know, I want Dom to win, you know what I haven't seen is a lot of Braun Breaker figures. There's not a lot. There's the one that's out, but that's the NXT one.
Speaker 4:That's why I'm thinking he's going to lose it. I think he'll lose it too.
Speaker 1:And that's not me trying to shit on no no, you've come around to bond a little bit, you, yeah, you've turned over on him a little bit.
Speaker 2:That's just him, and penta's about to feud too yeah, p and penta will be awesome.
Speaker 1:um, yeah, that'd be great. Uh, oh, you want to talk about Go, I think, ron Pinta, okay, I think.
Speaker 4:That's it, that's it. That's all you got. I said Dom Finn, dom Finn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think Dom Finn, Because that's got to happen. Yeah, finn's definitely coming back too. He was the Knicks game the other night, he's fine. Oh yeah, he was yeah he's definitely coming back too.
Speaker 4:He was the Knicks game the other night.
Speaker 1:He's fine. Oh yeah, he was. Yeah, he's fine, okay. So I'm going to ask everybody here Work or shoot. Okay, corey Graves, shoot.
Speaker 5:Yeah, At first I thought maybe a work, but it's a shoot yeah.
Speaker 1:What do you think, Wayne Work?
Speaker 3:Really Gosh Wayne be a work. But me too it's a shoot and we think way work really gosh, why?
Speaker 1:why do you think I really do, I want you to explain.
Speaker 3:I'm interested really. That's why I don't know. It just feels like it should be.
Speaker 1:I would book it like that well, the only reason I don't think it is is because they've not telegraphed it. Nope, wwe telegraph shit. If they're talking about it a bunch, that means it's probably a work.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there's only one person that has mentioned it in the WWE universe and it wasn't on the show. It was Booker T.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's crazy though.
Speaker 4:No he tweeted about it, and it wasn't even that. It was like seriousness he was was just like you. Keep your you. You keep your family and your personal opinions out of your work yeah, I think I might have saw that I think it's a shoot
Speaker 1:I think I think he was, I think he was gonna get in trouble. I think paul got in his ear and was like hey man, if you want to blow this, you can blow it that's fine's fine.
Speaker 5:And he also went back and deleted that one tweet he posted too.
Speaker 1:He deleted the tweet and then he said the really default thing on the show. It was like I love being here. Everybody's awesome. He didn't mention it. They've never brought it up. Nobody's ever brought it up. It's dead, it's buried. I don't about him, but I love him oh.
Speaker 2:I love Corey.
Speaker 1:Graves. I think he's great. I think what he thinks is a downgrade is not really a downgrade Like NXT. Okay, it's a little bit of a downgrade Ten years ago.
Speaker 4:Right, but it's not really that much of a downgrade, but NXT needs commentators, because I have.
Speaker 1:I agree Booker T. I think Corey Graves is going to be spectacular there. I think he'll be great.
Speaker 4:there you almost said Devin Booker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So that's been work or shoot.
Speaker 3:Okay, so here's why I think it's a bit of a work. First of all, it's really crappy the way it happened, like you know, netflix, then see you tomorrow, I think. Do you think that? I mean we, everybody knew pat was coming back after football, right, yeah, so why would they not have what? Why is cody cody cory such an idiot to not realize that?
Speaker 1:He should have known this forever ago that Pat greater than signed Cory.
Speaker 2:Graves.
Speaker 3:Right, I mean it's obvious, you're just here and tried the football guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right, I just thought you knew about it.
Speaker 3:And if it wasn't a work?
Speaker 1:I think it's a shoot that will become a work. Pat sells tickets and Cory Graves does not sell tickets. Cory Graves is good, but nobody comes for cory graves people come to shows for pat mcafee like it's.
Speaker 1:That's just the way it is 100 um yeah, I'm excited, for I'm just as excited about raw monday as I am about rumble. I think raw monday will be popping like it'd going to be lit. Something awesome is going to happen. It's always the Monday after. Rumble is always awesome. Yeah, I mean, what did we touch on, wayne? You got anything else you want to touch on? Oh, we need to put some respect, though. I think we need to put some respect on New Day, because the heel work they are doing is awesome. It's awesome. I also think we need to put respect on Michio. We did that, though. I think I might have done that. Okay, yeah, I think I might have done that, because I said that to you, but then I remembered that I think I did that on an episode.
Speaker 4:She's great. She's underrated.
Speaker 1:I think I mentioned putting respect on somebody, but I can't remember yeah, I can't remember either, but new days who I was thinking specifically? Yeah, and also was pointed out to me and I didn't realize the reason they're wearing jeans. We're putting that they're not in the locker room.
Speaker 4:It's because they can't get the locker room in the locker room, baby wow I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1:Wes pointed it out to me and I was like dude, that's sick. I love their work, I love what they're doing. I think Big E will come back.
Speaker 2:I think Big E's actually cleared, I guess.
Speaker 1:Put respect on Penta. Yeah, we'll do that later.
Speaker 2:We all put respect on Penta, we're all in love with him.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I love him. I love his mask. I love the secondary mask that he wore. I don't know if everybody knows this or not. I really like wrestlers that wear masks.
Speaker 3:So basically he gets respect because he has a mask. Hey, wayne.
Speaker 1:I got an idea. Let's put some respect on Ray Mysterio too.
Speaker 5:Let's put some respect on Juan Cena. Is it because he has a mask, juan Cena? Yeah, yeah, let's put some respect On.
Speaker 1:Juan Cena? Is it because he has a mask? Juan Cena, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've seen Cena.
Speaker 1:I've seen Cena. That was racist. That was. That was boring. I'm about to cut that. That was rough.
Speaker 4:I've seen Cena In a.
Speaker 1:McDonald's commercial.
Speaker 4:You can't do ping.
Speaker 1:I wasn't doing ping.
Speaker 4:Okay, I was doing Um Gorilla.
Speaker 1:Didn't you used to have a Jamaican accent? Alright, boys, anybody got anything else y'all want closing arguments. Do you want to say anything?
Speaker 3:no, I think we're good. I think we covered it we've had one year of the show on the podcast. One year I can show podcast boys one year.
Speaker 1:I can't believe we made it one year, six listens. Yeah, it's been fun. We've had a great time. Added some people, some reoccurring guests and Phil and co-hosts. Wes is still here. I'm surprised about that.
Speaker 2:Clay carries.
Speaker 1:Wayne knows he's been in studio once. You want to talk about the event in Corbin? Oh, we're gonna go. Absolutely we're gonna go. We're gonna try to get tickets this week. Wes works so he's screwed, sorry. We're going to try to go to Corbin, it's three shows Wes Come on. We're going to try to go to Corbin and watch a huge AMW super show next weekend.
Speaker 4:AJ Kazana will be there AJ.
Speaker 1:Kazana.
Speaker 4:Shout out.
Speaker 1:AJ.
Speaker 5:Can't wait to see our boy.
Speaker 1:Rhino will be there. Weird wrench, what Rhino will be there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Rhino Not.
Speaker 1:Rhino on the podcast, but not that one. Stan Sierra, literally Rhino. Kyle Maggard.
Speaker 2:Marty Clay.
Speaker 1:Who has an AEW contract? Marty Fugate.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's right, marty Fugate. Yeah, contract marty fugate. Oh yeah, that's right, marty fugate. Yeah, um, yeah, boys, good show fun times. Uh, I love wrestling. I love it all the time. I love it more than I've ever loved. I love being a mark. I'm okay with being a mark all the time. Um, I would like to say I would like for the shows to go back down to two hours, because I am tired at this point. I really, really struggled tonight the last hour. I was like boys, we ain't gonna make it.
Speaker 4:Hey, Colt didn't make it.
Speaker 1:No, colt didn't make it and let me tell you, we were all tired. Noah got quiet, we got tired that last match I didn't know what was going on. My eyes were closed a little bit.
Speaker 4:Colt literally looked at me, thinking he turned down yeah, I know he's thinking you turn that down.
Speaker 1:All right boys, uh, try not to be marks today. Yay, oh, ring the damn bell. This is awesome. This is awesome, this is awesome.