Work Or Shoot?: A Wrestling Podcast
A Work is a legitimate and unscripted exchange or sequence within a wrestling match. A Shoot is defined as the planned or scripted elements of a match or storyline
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Work Or Shoot?: A Wrestling Podcast
Spears, Celebrities, Fake Injuries and Cooter Bites: Wrestling's Wildest Week
Is Seth Rollins truly injured, or is WWE crafting the perfect storyline leading into SummerSlam? The Work or Shoot Podcast dives headfirst into wrestling's most compelling conspiracy theories, examining the subtle clues that suggest Rollins' knee injury might be the perfect setup for CM Punk's championship aspirations.
The conversation takes fascinating turns through the landscape of modern wrestling, from Cody Rhodes' potential heel turn to WWE's renewed embrace of celebrity involvement with Jelly Roll joining forces with Randy Orton at SummerSlam. The hosts celebrate this return to wrestling tradition, noting how celebrity appearances work best when there's genuine effort and enthusiasm behind them.
Meanwhile, AEW continues its creative renaissance with unique venues and memorable moments. The crew marvels at Darby Allin cutting a promo from Mount Everest, Hangman Page literally hanging his opponent, and the Young Bucks' compelling storyline of losing their EVP status. This renewed energy in wrestling's alternative promotion creates the perfect competitive environment that historically brings out the best in WWE programming.
Roman Reigns' return sparks theories about future storylines, with the hosts envisioning potential "Heyman boys versus Heyman boys" scenarios that could reshape the main event scene. From Naomi's electrifying Money in the Bank cash-in to Charlotte Flair finally winning over the crowd through her partnership with Alexa Bliss, the wrestling world feels energized with possibilities.
Whether you're tracking Seth Rollins' suspicious injury updates or appreciating how competition between promotions elevates the entire industry, join us for this deep dive into wrestling's most intriguing developments. The line between work and shoot has never been blurrier – and that's exactly how we like it
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ladies and gentlemen, welcome in to the work or shoot podcast brought to you by showing color. This is heavy d noah's here. Yeah claybo, yay wes who? Uh wayne is still injured. Is he part of the show still?
Speaker 2:oh wayno, he's never been a part of this one.
Speaker 1:We removed him from the website for sure. I feel like we've removed him from the website, like maybe just from the active roster. We moved him to Legacy.
Speaker 2:He's in the alumni At this point? Yeah, he's in the alumni. That's why I was looking for you.
Speaker 1:Wayno's in alumni section currently. We wish him the best yeah, you're good, you piece of shit. So work or shoot Seth Rollins injury. That's the first thing I had on my list. I bet it is. What do you think work?
Speaker 2:I want to say work. Can I say both?
Speaker 1:no work. Here's why I say both no Damn Work, okay Work. Here's why I say work. Okay, say it CM Punk or Seth Rollins said as long as Punk or yeah, yeah, yeah, You're right, Come on, as long as Seth Rollins is alive, CM Punk will never be champion. Yeah, you're right. And CM Punk has a world championship match at SummerSlam for the world heavyweight title and Seth Rollins has a money in the bank contract. No.
Speaker 2:I completely agree with Clay.
Speaker 1:Of course you boys, I do Wes. What do you think?
Speaker 3:I don't agree. Yeah, what do you think? Okay, no, I agree with the work 100%. I feel like he's going to come out like Kevin Nash it's all fake, he's talking about too much.
Speaker 1:He's going on podcasts trying to point out Fake leg broke in the wheelchair. He should do exactly that actually.
Speaker 3:But it doesn't make sense in my mind for him to go after that title again.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I understand that. Yeah, I get that Just because but what if that part's wrong?
Speaker 1:That's the only part.
Speaker 3:I don't agree on. I agree with Tori.
Speaker 1:Because like.
Speaker 3:I said he immediately went on a podcast and was like the MRI it's inconclusive, there's too much swelling, bro, your knee's not broke, okay. Well, the other thing.
Speaker 1:Okay, I guess we but he was.
Speaker 3:He purposely pointed out like talking about, he's got his knee wrapped. Here's my. He's like no one can see this, but my crutches are in the corner here. I'm really hurt.
Speaker 1:Well, what about? What about? If he's going after the other title, then how do you see that happening? If he's going after the other title, then how do you?
Speaker 3:see that happening. If he's going after the other title.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because there's other stuff afoot with the other title.
Speaker 3:right now there's a lot of stuff afoot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you say he's not going after Big Gold because he's already had it and he wants Universal right Basically, I mean that's what it is.
Speaker 3:I'm going to say what Paul Heyman said. He has until June.
Speaker 2:He does have until next.
Speaker 3:June. Anything right now is irrelevant until he comes back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I understand that back.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I understand that now. With that being said, we have a lot to talk about and I want the input on. You can't have a heel turn baby without what? Baby turned heel, who was very heelish yeah, but okay.
Speaker 1:so that's where I was getting with that is are you telling me that Seth is going to be a baby?
Speaker 3:Like, because I'm not saying Seth.
Speaker 1:Oh well, yeah, but if it's Cody and Cena.
Speaker 3:Cena's getting way too popular.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know and here's the problem One of the other rules if it seems like that's what's going to happen, it's not going to happen. That's probably not what's going to happen. All the stuff that's so obvious, the stuff that was so obvious, the watch and the glasses that were so obvious.
Speaker 1:Surely it's not that obvious, right? Because also I also think it's bad. I think it's the wrong time for him to turn Because he's on, because we have we don't need him, we have Seth. You know what I mean. You turn Cody. Now we have two Seths, we don't need Cody turned. Does that make sense? No, it does. It makes sense, jay. Now we have two sets, we don't need Cody turned. Does that make sense? I mean, like, who's the baby face? No, you're right it does, it makes sense.
Speaker 1:Jay, because it's not Cena. He's leaving Jay or Roman.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the one thing I always go back to that other show, I don't know, I don't remember most of it, that bloody podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't remember most of it, that bloody podcast. Yeah, I don't know what that show was. Shoe and Collar.
Speaker 3:Yeah, shoe and Collar, it's breadcrumbs.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:He's going and inching towards it without being it. He's going to do something and then go back. Do something and then go back, like we were talking.
Speaker 1:I don't necessarily think that's untrue, but I just think it doesn't make sense. It's silly. We don't need Cody. Just came back and just saved us because WB sucked for like five minutes because he was gone. Can I ask you something? I wish you wouldn't.
Speaker 3:Okay, go ahead. Why the fuck do you have those glasses on? Sorry for cussing. I don't know, I don't know either. You don't wear contacts, I know.
Speaker 1:They were frameless. I know the Rock actually he's getting in his age, just like all of it. He probably wears reading glasses, but I think those frames, I think they were like just frames, like they were like they didn't have any glasses real quick we're saying that, saying a thing that he had on Smackdown that's not his work, right when he said he's leaving to go to a movie, and he hit me at SummerSlam that's a work.
Speaker 2:That's a work.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a word, yeah, that's a word yeah, cody made him sign. Yeah, cody made him sign.
Speaker 1:It says yeah street fight but also seeing it was like not himself yeah in that segment.
Speaker 2:That's. That's why yeah okay.
Speaker 1:Um, so we all agree it's a work, but we don't all agree on the reason for the work. Yeah, okay, so let me mark out for just a second.
Speaker 2:Listen and go ahead. All my takes I'm marking out to December.
Speaker 1:So I'll just go ahead and say that, yeah, just get me a marker baby, because I'll be marking everything.
Speaker 3:He's not marking, no more, he's taught.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, listen. If the Seth Rollins injury is a work, do we think the Liv injury is a work?
Speaker 3:Work or shoot Liv Morgan. Oh my gosh, it's radio silence for her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is radio silence for her, but it smells like it's set up for her to interfere.
Speaker 3:That's why I said radio silence, just because they just reported.
Speaker 1:What do you think? Work or shoot For her? Yeah, her injury. It's work, clay, work no.
Speaker 2:You think it's a shoot? I think it's a shoot. I just feel like she's going to come back sooner than projected.
Speaker 1:Okay, they're just going to turn it into a work. Chad Gables is a shoot right, no? Gables is his shoe right?
Speaker 3:no, chad gables actually hurt, yeah, no he just came out of surgery him and yeah, he's actually hurt and ko ko just got his, had his oh, did he have his surgery?
Speaker 1:yeah, damn. Yeah, you just marked, you marked out erase all those, erase all that stuff I said earlier yeah, he, uh, he, he.
Speaker 3:They reported he had successful neck surgery um chad gable. Actually there is a video him coming out of surgery like he had his shoulder ripped off.
Speaker 1:I've seen him.
Speaker 3:That's why I said the radio silence with Liv is too much radio silence.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, okay, I'll buy that. Clabo what else you got? He has so much stuff.
Speaker 3:He's been taking notes. I can't wait. He's been taking notes all week.
Speaker 1:Since we're on SummerSlam, let's talk about Jelly Roll and Randy Orton Bro, you know it'll be fine.
Speaker 3:No, I like it. You know what I like it for. I like it because it's going back to the way SummerSlam used to be. I know it's a two night event. I know it's a two night event, but the last couple Summer Slams it wasn't a celebrity or a pop culture icon being in the ring as a match.
Speaker 2:Here's my thing too. I've never been against Celebrities getting involved. Stephen Amell Exactly. As long as they put in the work. They put in the work and show the want for it. I love it. I eat it up. Last year was.
Speaker 3:MGK, as long as they put in the work, dude, they put in the work and actually show the want for it. Yeah, I love it. I eat it up Last year. What was it Last year was MGK and he was in it for two seconds because he was in the crowd.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think so yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, MGK should have died.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I was just meaning celebrity actually doing a match.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think Jelly celebrity actually doing a match. Yeah, I think jelly roll doing a match. I'm I'm really interested in that. I assume he's only gonna get. He's gonna get like a hot tag and he's gonna come in and do a clothesline, do his clothesline, which I mean he's lost all the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I, I think it's fine, it is where it is.
Speaker 1:Those dudes can put him up. That's, he's working with three awesome dudes like he's gonna be fine.
Speaker 3:How hard did he choke?
Speaker 1:slam him through jimmy kimmel's desk oh my gosh actually like the bottom of it was like made wrong or something and it looked like like paul hit his back on the bottom of it and like folded over the bottom of it logan slapped the crap out of jimmy ross. He choked, slammed him through so hard through the through the tonight show desk that they canceled the late show.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2:It does.
Speaker 3:It's cheesy enough, what do?
Speaker 1:you got Clay, I think Jelly Roll. He was training with Kevin Owens.
Speaker 2:Jacob Fatu.
Speaker 1:Undertaker.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it'll be fun. He's a big old dude.
Speaker 1:Since we're on Randy Orton, Randy Orton is reportedly going to play Batman in the new Batman movie.
Speaker 2:Bro, bro, what no?
Speaker 1:That's there's just no way he.
Speaker 3:Just he made a tweet saying he's throwing his hat in the ring Like wanting to be it.
Speaker 1:I was like if Randy Orton plays Batman, he would have to be like a superhuman Batman. He'd be like Bane man.
Speaker 3:He's huge, he'd be more likely to play Bane than he would Batman. They are saying that possibly Alan. I never say his last name, right?
Speaker 1:Richardson, richardson, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Dad Castle yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Is going to be playing Batman. Yeah, also, they're about the same size, well yeah, because that new, the new universe that James Gunn's created, that cartoon that connects to it, that he first made that's rated R. It had a snippet of like a silhouette of batman in it and they literally drew him just like alan. That's cool.
Speaker 1:So that'd be cool. I'm down anyway. Uh, speaking of masked wrestlers, um agrande americano was not chad gable, because chad gable's hurting. He's still here, yep, yep yep you know, he uh why does he? Have a big torso I think the unmasking is gonna be so awesome when it's not gable like I mean just just like, just the idea, just the idea that I feel like it should just turn into kind of like suicide and tna just Just put everybody under the mask. Oh, yeah, yeah, I love that. Americano has a huge torso right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know, did he take growth hormones or?
Speaker 1:something I had you.
Speaker 2:Go to the next thing, Eating his Wheaties oh.
Speaker 1:Wes.
Speaker 3:You all mentioned TNA. My oldest showed me a promo for Slammiversary tomorrow.
Speaker 2:Oh it's tomorrow, I'm pretty sure it showed.
Speaker 1:Oh, we got something to do now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so one of the promos was like a case or like a chest, and when they opened it up it was AJ's old gear.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, because AJ's there and they started playing AJ's old music.
Speaker 3:Aj Styles is showing up I know AJ's there and they started playing AJ's old music.
Speaker 1:And then the main event is Trick yeah, trick Hendry and the.
Speaker 3:The true house that AJ built.
Speaker 1:It's the real house that AJ built. Yeah, not.
Speaker 3:What is that on?
Speaker 1:What is it on? Yeah, else what is that on?
Speaker 3:what is? What is it on? Yeah, what is it? Tna is it a pay-per-view?
Speaker 1:yeah it is it's a pay-per-view, but it's on something. It's on something easy to watch, though I think um anyway, while he's looking it up.
Speaker 2:Tna plus TNA digital platform oh okay they have their own streaming.
Speaker 1:Why don't?
Speaker 3:you go for them.
Speaker 1:WWE's going to buy them. They're going to buy them soon.
Speaker 2:Wes.
Speaker 1:Has a segment for us AW talk, work or shoot. Wes likes AW. That's on my list. I actually think work or shoot AW's no, that doesn't work, but that's on my list. I actually think work or shoot AWs no, that doesn't work. But AWs doing really good right now, which is good, because the last time AW done good, wwe was awesome.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're doing good.
Speaker 1:When they do good, they're doing good Because Hangman's going to save them. Yeah, Like putting Hangman and making the right decision and letting Mercedes lose to Tony, Like Barry and Tony would have sucked so bad. So I thought that was cool. That event rocked. Actually. It was way better than the WWE event that weekend. Yeah, oh my God. Gray-maker Bash was actually pretty good though it was, Was it?
Speaker 3:I didn't catch that.
Speaker 1:All NXT events are good, shawn Michaels cooks All-In was great though oh yeah, I heard that osprey and um that was that were for me was like um, one of the weirdest spots I know it was the pile driver. Yeah, um the pile driver and uh can I say it?
Speaker 1:yeah, I didn't know, it's a pile driver into the cooter bot that was her finisher, actually what um what I heard, that Osprey and Swerve match was really good it was damn good, oh he was great, or that tag match Whose house, swerve house, figure talk, aw and figure talk. I got the MJF special edition, like the one of 2000 or whatever. He won that gauntlet match.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know it.
Speaker 1:He's wearing the American flag gear and the Apollo Creed gear. Basically, that's what it is. And then Osprey, his first figure. We got his first figure coming.
Speaker 3:That whole entrance. Did you see the entrance of Osprey and Swerve? Yeah, that whole thing. Clay, are you familiar with the Assassin's Creed games? No, osprey's gimmick. He's the aerial assassin.
Speaker 1:His move's the hidden blade. He's a video game gimmick. Do you know that?
Speaker 3:I know that he comes out in Assassin's Creed gear. In the games Assassin's Creed, the assassins are always against British or founding fathers and all that Move your mic up a little bit.
Speaker 1:Wes.
Speaker 3:So the my bad.
Speaker 2:No, you're good baby.
Speaker 3:So the Young Bucks. Their new gimmick was the founding fathers. And they come out looking like they do.
Speaker 1:That's why they were dressed like that, and Swerve and Osprey were dressed like that. That's why I thought that was going to win. They were dressed like that and.
Speaker 3:Swerve and Osprey were dressed like that, yeah, so yeah, that's why I thought that was going to win. Yeah, they were dressed like that. And then they came out in that freaking boat going through the crowd, yeah, and I was like, all right, this is cool, yeah.
Speaker 2:This is way past it happening, but did y'all ever watch?
Speaker 1:You look so hot in that gear.
Speaker 2:gear looks awesome god, I've been overdue for some wrestling gear yeah uh, did y'all ever watch the anarchy in the in the arena a couple months ago?
Speaker 1:that rocked uh, I mean that, that the hangman, the hangman and moxley texas death match was awesome. I got that new shirt it was actually way better than I anticipated. I thought it was going to be good, but it was way better than I thought it was going to be than bed. The bed and nails was really cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was awesome, the bed of nails was awesome the behind-the-scenes stuff after the next day after the match where we couldn't figure out where he got that fork from that he stabbed Mox on the head with. He got it from catering and he went up to the camera and put his finger up to his lips and went shh and he showed the fork and then put it in his ring boot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's awesome. And then went out to the ring. Mark's coming to WWE we talk about this every time and he's got four years left on his contract, so I'd be really surprised if he bells on his contract and comes to WWE right now. But that being said, money talks. Hey, I just want to say they mentioned the Beast last night. Bro, let's go.
Speaker 3:We've been saying they're absolutely bringing Lesnar.
Speaker 2:He's here. I hate to be that guy, but Daniel Cormier, is that his?
Speaker 1:name Daniel Cormier yeah.
Speaker 3:MMA legend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I actually just saw something today. He said he was saying something about apparently Lesnar is still on TKO's ban list still.
Speaker 1:Oh, really, because of the stuff he did to UFC.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's the UFC or all the lawsuit stuff. It seems trustful just because Daniel is still affiliated with UFC.
Speaker 1:Can I tell you something, though Just because Daniel's affiliated with the UFC, don't mean he's not Working you as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I know that too, cause Cormier's like that man.
Speaker 1:He's marking you. I hope he is.
Speaker 3:He did a. He did. Well, he didn't do an event, but in his hometown Lesnar Was at a gym and took some pictures with some fans and they asked they're like you coming back? Usually for like months he's been saying I'm retired and then this time he smiled and said I guess we'll see, won't we?
Speaker 1:three times they've mentioned him three different shows they called him the beast. They called him, they said and they mentioned, they said Brock.
Speaker 2:Which I will say too. They released that shirt too, like last week.
Speaker 3:So that's and the figure and the figure Boy Also. It all goes back to me saying the rumor is Roman Reigns is coming back. They said it was going to be. He's bringing people back from sets past and we were like, oh, that that's brock because you know he was the beast slayer. But now when? He came back on smackdown and did everything. I think it's going to be because him and punk have that thing when you know yeah they, they didn't fight each other. I think it's going to be Heyman boys versus Heyman boys.
Speaker 3:It's going to be Punk Brock Roman versus the new Paul Heyman boys hey.
Speaker 1:I already said that that would be badass. I already said that I said new Paul versus old Paul is what I said, did you?
Speaker 3:say war games.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I didn't say war games. Surely to God, we're not going to do another war games for that. No, I know we're going to do another war games, but let's do something else. Let's do another group of random people. Dude Y6 in war games makes more sense than anything else on earth. Literally. It makes so much sense. They fit perfect. There's five of them. Put them in.
Speaker 3:What are they going to do? Who are they going to fight, though?
Speaker 1:Who cares? All right, the five of the random, the two Machine Gun Kellys and two.
Speaker 3:It's going to be DIY with. Oh, it's going to be DIY with his wife, and then the two.
Speaker 1:Not with his wife. There's a woman's too.
Speaker 3:There's a woman's too. There's a female war games.
Speaker 1:Well, I was just thinking.
Speaker 3:If you put all white six in there. I don't know, man.
Speaker 1:There's not six whites, there's five, there's five.
Speaker 3:One's dead, yeah, but one's a female.
Speaker 1:I know, but they're not doing that. Oh yeah, there's four.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that's what we're both fucking wrong. That's why I said five on five. There's only four of them, dom. That's why I said five on five, don't go for my dumb Dom. I don't know, oh God.
Speaker 1:It's okay, we can't math.
Speaker 3:Where's Wayne at?
Speaker 1:Who, what Clyde? What else you got to talk about? Let's talk about evolution a little bit. I mean, I'm just kidding, it was not bad it wasn't bad.
Speaker 3:No, it was actually the best wb show the weekend. So so let me let me say something, though.
Speaker 1:We talked about probably was yeah, it was american bash. It was better than it was better than great american bash we, we talked about, we didn't I.
Speaker 3:I was on the island of relevancy while you guys did the last podcast.
Speaker 1:That's true.
Speaker 3:One through the air. We missed you. I did Not really Y'all talked about. It was hard for them to sell tickets. I figured out how they sold tickets.
Speaker 1:How.
Speaker 3:They did a combo. Oh right. So when we first no saturday night main event, all right, yeah. So what happened was when me and d were looking at tickets beforehand, it was like everything was still open, everything was vacant, and they were sailing like third row back behind uh the barrier for like a hundred bucks.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So what they had done was they erased those tickets. You couldn't buy those tickets alone. Only way you could buy the ticket was if you bought the Saturday night main event ticket with it.
Speaker 1:That makes sense, and they gave them a discount to both of them.
Speaker 3:And it filled the seats.
Speaker 2:I mean whatever I don't want to say, it worked.
Speaker 1:I mean Honestly, it worked.
Speaker 3:It ended up being pretty packed. Yeah, it did. It was good. Shout out Lash Legends for picking up Nia Jax.
Speaker 1:Bro, she's awesome. She's awesome, really no joke. She's so badass she's getting called up. I assume she's getting called up because people are talking about her. I mean, she made the final two.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, Trick. Your girl got picked up before you did.
Speaker 1:Oh, is that Trick's girl.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's Trick's girl. Oh gosh, she's bigger than him.
Speaker 2:Shout out Trick, she's bigger than him Yo.
Speaker 3:Good job Trick. I'll be honest with you. Tell about something.
Speaker 1:She's a Former NBA player, right? I think so. I think she played WNBA Well, yeah, yeah, way to Way. To really single them out, gosh Jada Parker is who though College? Actually, she's actually what Basketball, or what.
Speaker 2:And what?
Speaker 1:Wrestling Well Got thrown out the Battle Royal. Who won that, steph?
Speaker 3:Stephanie Vacquay.
Speaker 1:Obviously, we knew that Vacquay.
Speaker 3:Stephanie Vacquay, it wasn't.
Speaker 1:Asuka Bro, she's so awesome.
Speaker 2:She's so awesome.
Speaker 1:The Devil's Kiss is my favorite.
Speaker 2:Why is it your favorite?
Speaker 1:Because it's a cool move.
Speaker 2:They did this thing Very damaging.
Speaker 1:They've done this thing where they gave us a bunch of wrestlers all at once that have awesome entrances, like Alistair and her their entrances are awesome and Penta. They just gave us a ton of good entrances, entrances. Entrances Andrade and Rey getting a push too Right. I forget about that. And Ray looked sick In that full body. Ray Phoenix.
Speaker 3:Well, they kind of spoiled SummerSlam by. I showed Dusty the poster that WWE Emailed me Like the promo.
Speaker 1:WWE emailed you. Wwe emailed.
Speaker 2:He talks to Hunter on the regular. I do.
Speaker 3:But the promo poster had Roman on it.
Speaker 1:Yahoocom had Roman on it. Suck it one what?
Speaker 3:It's Triple H's email. It's suck it twice. So the promo was it had Roman on it, so we already knew Roman was coming back. But it also. So the promo Was it had Roman On it, so we already knew Roman was coming back. But it also had Rey Mysterio on it. So like I sent it to Dusty and Dusty was like man, they just gave away everything.
Speaker 1:Booyaka, booyaka.
Speaker 3:I don't think Roman. Okay, work or shoot Roman. Was Roman Supposed to come back On Raw, or was that audible at the end?
Speaker 1:your question doesn't make any sense, is it?
Speaker 3:work or shoot Roman coming back on raw sorry at the end oh you don't think he was supposed to. I don't think he was supposed to come back that soon oh, I don't think I have any idea.
Speaker 1:I don't think I have any idea. I don't think I have any idea. I think that his t-shirt came out the day before he came back.
Speaker 3:Okay, how do you feel about that t-shirt? I think it's trash.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's trash, but it's the number one selling t-shirt. Yeah, but I mean QB1 because all day, because we need Roman we do need Roman, but I think they need to.
Speaker 3:They get off the whole. He don't need nobody kind of thing, because if you're going to put out a t-shirt that's kind of like the mimicking QB1 captain shirt yeah, you're going to have to start playing hit play.
Speaker 1:It's fine. He's just up in the playoffs, that's all that matters anyway. Yeah, naomi Cash in Awesome. I had that on my list. Very cool, I said one of the best women's cash-ins of all time, probably the best one, right. Who's the other good one? Tiffy time, tiffy probably. Tiffy was good and successful. It was decent. I can't think of other relevant ones.
Speaker 3:I like what she said. After Naomi, the next event, what was it? She came out on Raw. She called everybody raggedy heifers.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, she's awesome. I saw something that this might be this championship run that she's probably nearing to an end.
Speaker 1:Oh, really, I can see that.
Speaker 2:Talking about wanting to have a kid and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hate that it's not her against Jade for the title.
Speaker 3:It's because they did Jade already. Yeah, I know, it's because they already did it.
Speaker 2:They've been fighting since hell, since February.
Speaker 1:So they're gonna Take the title off Tiffy? I guess I don't think so.
Speaker 2:I don't think they're gonna take the title off Tiffy, do you?
Speaker 1:That'd be wild.
Speaker 2:Maybe bro.
Speaker 1:She's pretty freaking over. Yeah, she's, they might. That'd be wild for Naomi and Jade to have the big championships.
Speaker 3:What about Charlotte getting over?
Speaker 1:How about Charlotte getting over? We're Not Friends. How about that?
Speaker 3:I told you. I said when I seen them come out together, I said this is how you get Charlotte over.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. You put her with Alexa Bliss and it worked too. She's over. Yeah, she got a literal pop.
Speaker 2:Truthfully, as long as she's not in the title picture, we like her.
Speaker 1:I know and I do want to say she does look a little bit better.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's gained some weight. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1:No I guess because she looks definitely different than she did before yeah, she it don't hurt, she's with Alexa Bliss. Yeah, we're not friends is clever, that's solid, that's fun. Somebody else did that. That was. That was a very similar gimmick to. There were some other dudes who did that. Clay don't know what. Do you know Clay?
Speaker 2:team hell no team hell no maybe what else you got clay?
Speaker 1:oh hell, no, um, daniel bryan, come back in when he came back in aw I was watching I know I was watching it and I was like I was like that's daniel bryan. It's like no way. I was like I swear to god it's daniel bryan. I know it's for sure. It's daniel bryan. What you got clay, um, it's a little bit aw I was saying why are aw shirts better than WWE's?
Speaker 3:That's real. That's real. Yeah, dusty got to see like first person of my shirt.
Speaker 1:I also pretty much know why. Tell us, because AEW makes their own shirts and WWE don't.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm. And WWE shirts are outsourced from a bunch of different companies. So I'd like to apologize for bitching that it's taking too long for my shirts to come in, because they're nice, because, as kitchen, that is taking too long for my shirts to come in because they're nice, because as soon as I got man, they're so nice.
Speaker 1:That's kind of the same thing. I know me too. Noah was complaining about his shirts and, um, he complained to the angry lemonade company and they literally sent him. Yeah, all kinds of me, damn.
Speaker 3:I got a shout out, I got two I got two hangman shirts and I told you about the one that takes death. But I got another one that was like an old school hangman and it was the skeleton cowboy riding like a big, muscular horse and it's this cowboy shit on and stuff. But um, what I didn't know was when I got it in.
Speaker 3:It's like tattered and distressed cool, like it's a, not like that's awesome it's a brand new shirt but it looks like it came out of a box from 1995 oh, it's been worn. Yeah, that's very cool, that's beautiful sounding, actually like around the sleeves and around the neckline it's been worn. Yeah, that's very cool. That's beautiful sounding, actually Like around the sleeves and around the neckline. It's like wore out and not black, it's like brownish kind of yeah. It's nice.
Speaker 1:So we're like two weeks out from SummerSlam, Three weeks Three.
Speaker 3:I think I got a little bit more AEW talk after this. Yeah, no, you're good.
Speaker 1:I was just thinking We'll do some more AEW talk after this. Yeah, no, you're good.
Speaker 3:I was just thinking.
Speaker 1:I think it's two from Saturday.
Speaker 3:I was just thinking what the next AEW event is All in, all out, right, all out's next after all in.
Speaker 1:I don't know where it's at. It's two weeks from today Summer Slam, summer Slam. Two night event. Which one are we going to party on Saturday or Sunday. Saturday night party probably probably that seems, and then we can just chill Sunday night yeah that's what we did last time. We had the leftovers on Sunday, did that for WrestleMania. Hey, also um.
Speaker 2:September for all out, by the way nice, yep, nice, yeah.
Speaker 1:Aew don't have pay-per-views all the time. We party out Saturday and then get the podcast crew on Sunday, and then we'll eat and record Sunday. That sounds good. We have local shows going on next two months. A bunch of them to hit.
Speaker 2:Actually for the rest of the year, yeah, for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1:there's a bunch they keep just announcing bigger shows. Carlito is coming, the Good Brothers.
Speaker 3:I can't wait for that one. Big Baddy Booty Day.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, big Papa Pump, I'm the Big Bad Booty Daddy.
Speaker 2:Might ask Doc Gallows if he remembers meeting me in like 2012.
Speaker 1:He doesn't, he does not remember that.
Speaker 2:I want to at least ask if he remembers doing that. Though they're supposed to wrestle, I'm going to at least ask if he remembers doing that though they're supposed to wrestle. Oh, you know they are yeah. So what if we got country gents versus the Good Brothers? No, it's not.
Speaker 1:It's going to be Stan Sierra.
Speaker 2:More than likely. I'm just marking out a little bit. It could be, though It'll probably be Box Office Blondes or San Sierra. Yeah, because it's got to be, I'm going to be happy to see the Good Brothers.
Speaker 1:Hated people, hated people. What were you going?
Speaker 3:to say Wes Apologies. We are getting a nostalgic tag team hinting to coming back, if you didn't know, edge formerly known as Edge now in Adam Copeland.
Speaker 2:He made his surprise Radar Superstar Cope he ain't now that he's came back he goes by Adam Copeland he's back as Adam Copeland now, but he's come back and the person he saved was Christian.
Speaker 3:And then he hugged Christian and kind of mirrored what happened when he first appeared was Christian hugged him and said go F yourself. This time he hugged him after he saved him and said go find yourself and walked out of the ring. So they're hinting that we're going to get that.
Speaker 1:Get the Edge and Christian tag team, which we just do it in WWE, so they could be. It's the Hardy Boys side, I just want it to be Team Extreme, yeah, I just want it to be 2002 Team Extreme, but it's not, um, it's. You know what I do think about that jelly roll. Putting him through that Jimmy Candle table what, that was pretty cool. What Did you give me? A huge? What Is that? Your notes? Is that all your notes? Wow, I can't believe you went through them that quick that was fast.
Speaker 1:What's the rest of your AEW? Talk Wes.
Speaker 3:Oh man, I got so much. Well, go off on it. Listen. Aew's coming back on top.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad they didn't put that title on Monet. I'm so glad.
Speaker 3:No, that's why they. She got a kiss and a cooter bite. She did.
Speaker 1:She like made out with her.
Speaker 3:Also with AEW talk. I love the fact that hangman beat his opponent by hanging a man yeah, it was awesome. Oh, yeah, yeah and then the whole um darby allen coming out, him cutting a promo on the summit of mount everest.
Speaker 1:That's commitment, bro. That's awesome that he had cut a promo while he's up there I think that's the coolest shit and the fact that he he you've seen that, didn't you? Clay darby allen cut a promo while he was on Everest. He cut a promo while he was up there and used it in his feud the other day and then he came back from the sky.
Speaker 2:Came back like Sting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, came back like Sting from the sky. He came out of the rafters like Sting.
Speaker 1:Cough and drop from way up in the air. That's awesome.
Speaker 3:He's cool. He's gonna die. Yeah, probably. Yes, he'll be able to walk when he's 50. I like the gimmick they're doing too with you know, with um the young bucks losing.
Speaker 3:so they lost their their status as evps. So instead, like dynamite, they showed up in an uber instead of in their limousine. They had to get their own um luggage out and stuff and then when they went to their locker room, the locker room had matt and Nick Jackson on it and it said EVP, and a security guard walked up to it and took a Sharpie and marked out EVPs and they were like man, you didn't have to do this, like I'm just doing my job, um. So yeah, I think they're doing great, uh.
Speaker 3:I do like the venues that aw is doing. Yeah, it looks cool. Uh, they had feels like lucha underground. They had dynamite in a um in a ballroom clay. Have you seen the video I sent you dad? I'll show you the video it it looks like something out of 2k, like a special edition event on 2k, because, like it's literally in a ballroom, there's people around the ring at bars sitting drinking and eating food while they're yeah, it's like medieval times.
Speaker 2:I do want to say something about All In Unless. I've just been not watching AEW, that much. Can someone explain the amount of ringside room? I don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 1:know either that was so humongous like, unless it was just for me.
Speaker 2:I assume it could have been for the show, big show big arena.
Speaker 1:The hangman match maybe, but but it was weird. I I don't know they're. The arena was weird that time, like why was there that much you don't talk about? The arena was weird that time. Why was there that much? You know what I'm talking about? Like there was between the announcer and the ring there was probably 15 feet all in.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's because we talked about this when we were watching it. It's because they weren't. They're not in arenas, they're in stadiums.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, that's what I figured, yeah.
Speaker 3:They're literally in a freaking football stadium.
Speaker 1:Yeah, where was that Longhorn Stadium? I think so.
Speaker 3:Or.
Speaker 1:Texas. I think so. Yeah, dude, just look at that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's awesome. You can hear my kids screaming. Who is that in the background?
Speaker 1:It looks like knockoff Miles Bourne. Actually, that was in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, longhorns, yeah probably, I guess.
Speaker 1:So I'm not sure where they were and uh where was? That venue. They were at. That looked like the ballroom, do you know?
Speaker 3:chicago, chicago, yeah, chicago. Um, it was. Let me pull it back up here. It was the byline bank aragon ballroom in chicago, illinois oh nice so it was a legit ballroom that they were in. It was awesome. Highline Bank Aragon Ballroom in Chicago, illinois oh nice. So it was a legit ballroom that they were in. It was awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's pretty cool, it looked like a video game.
Speaker 3:I would like to go to a show like that. I would like to go to an AEW show actually, just because it's different.
Speaker 1:It is different.
Speaker 3:I think that's why I'm kind of getting into it a little bit more now. We don't care. I'm into it a little bit more now, we don't care, we'll go to all of them Things. It's almost it's we absorb so much WWE Mm-hmm that, like us watching all in it was kind of it's so drastically different, and not in a bad way.
Speaker 2:But it's just, it's refreshing.
Speaker 3:Yes, exactly, thank you, just because I mean, we basically watch WWE and we call everything. We know everything, everything's recycled, but they and AEW also has a little bit of a nostalgic feel because their showrunners are the Nitro showrunners.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why it feels that way, their camera angles their cameramen.
Speaker 3:It's a little bit of a lower production. It all feels like 1990s WCW.
Speaker 2:I love how they're just more edgier. I love edginess with wrestling.
Speaker 1:Speaking of nostalgia, AJ Styles is being so funny right now with Dom.
Speaker 2:I love it Praying and shit Work or shoot Dom's injury Work.
Speaker 1:Speaking of nostalgia, AJ Styles is being so funny right now with Dom. Work or shoot Dom's injury. Work 100% All day. It's so funny. But I got this paper, but I got a paper, I got a doctor's excuse. Unfortunately, I think Dom's going to lose it. Do you think he'll lose that title, AJ?
Speaker 2:That'd be crazy.
Speaker 3:It's alright if he loses. Did you see what I?
Speaker 2:sent you the other day AJ winning the title. That could happen. I love it. I could see it happening.
Speaker 3:Dom's on the fast track to getting the big belt, the big belt.
Speaker 1:The big belt, that's where they're going to send him. I think AJ's hilarious in that I went down to AJ Rabbit Hole the other day and was watching X Division crap where he almost died him and the fallen angel Chris Daniels. They would almost die all the time hanging off the X.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure it was Styles that took the bump. He was hanging upside down and Kazarian jumped up and caught him in the cutter yep and he had to flip, he almost didn't flip all the way.
Speaker 1:It's what he said. It almost killed him um, have you guys? Have you said that on chris van vliet?
Speaker 3:yes, yeah have you guys noticed that breaker's spear hasn't been as intense the last couple times.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I think I've noticed it since the Rumble. Once he really fucked Speed up. Sorry for cussing the spear, he's definitely dialed it back a little bit.
Speaker 1:I think you heard a couple people. Oh God, he's had to Speed took it wrong, though.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Speed took it wrong. I think he's hurt some people.
Speaker 1:Have you noticed, though? Oh yes, he took it wrong. I think he hurts people.
Speaker 3:Have you noticed, though, too? I've seen someone else that has copied that spear, you know where, like connect and do the double over, where it almost looks like they flip frontwards. Jay, no who, Charlotte.
Speaker 1:Oh, Charlotte does it yeah. I feel like she's been doing that. She's done it for a while, but he's right, she's made it easier on herself flipping over.
Speaker 2:As much as I love a spear, there's too many spears People using them in the WWE right now.
Speaker 1:Goldberg said that the only thing I ever liked, he said, was what about Goldberg?
Speaker 3:going immediately? On a podcast after his final match and complaining about he didn't want to go out that way.
Speaker 1:How did he want to go out? He want to win?
Speaker 3:I don't know, but he was. He was given like he.
Speaker 2:Truthfully, he got a better send off than Taker. Yeah, I think he got a pretty good send off. He got an actual match.
Speaker 3:He threw shade so hard at WWE. He's like it's not how I want to go out.
Speaker 1:He broke Charles Robinson's rib. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so whatever.
Speaker 2:Charles Robinson.
Speaker 3:I don't think you're ever going to make him happy so many bumps.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's got beat up recently. Just recently, he's got beat up the.
Speaker 3:Cena bump, that bump too.
Speaker 1:Hey, listen Little Nate, he'll be fine, little Nate, little Nate. Nate he'll be fine, lil' Nate.
Speaker 2:Lil' Nate. You don't remember him as Lil' Nate. Lil' Nate, yeah.
Speaker 1:I guess I don't Baby Rick, baby Rick, stop it.
Speaker 3:I don't get it In WCW.
Speaker 2:Ric Flair would come out with Lil' Nate I don't remember that I wasn't even thought of, and I know this.
Speaker 1:I don't remember that, Charles. I mean I hear you saying it, bro.
Speaker 3:He would come out with his blonde hair feathered like Ric Flair's, in a Ric Flair attire, with a Ric Flair robe, and he would come out with Ric Flair and they'd call him Lil Nate because he was the Little Nature Boy.
Speaker 1:I don't remember that. I must have been talking to girls or something. Oh yeah, that I don't remember that. Just kidding, I have no idea, I do not remember it. He was a ref, though.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:He did some in-ring stuff.
Speaker 1:That's when he was in-ring. Okay, anyway, forgot about that, didn't know that, can't forget. If you didn't know, that fever dream, can't forget. If you don't know, I wouldn't have believed. You should have told me. Um, it's funny, we mentioned Flaire twice in the show. It's pretty good and Charlotte's over, so that's something. And Fatu's new line of gear is gonna be every city he's getting a sport, he's getting the sports gear in every city. He's getting the sports gear in every city and not just like the pseudo ones, like Cena almost does the sports gear.
Speaker 3:No, it's like Jace. Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1:Jace, he literally got spurs.
Speaker 3:That was hard.
Speaker 1:What was the point of that car wreck yesterday? I actually missed the car wreck so I was super confused about the rest of the promo. I was like why is?
Speaker 3:Vatu getting arrested. The point of the car wreck was Solo staged it to get Fatou arrested, to try to get him away from them for that night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those cops are just wrestlers, by the way. Yeah, no Real cops. I don't know if you know this or not.
Speaker 3:No, cop's going to be that flamboyant when he was like we did not see anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no guns, no guns. Like we did not see anything. Yeah, no guns, no guns, no badge no handcuffs. Yeah.
Speaker 3:After speaking to Mr Fatu, we concluded he is not our person of interest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is not Maury Povich. Yeah, I thought that was beautiful, though that was funny. And then Fatu's like just everything he does is gold. Always going to be wonderful, and them arresting far too is like kind of funny yeah, because it's just no.
Speaker 3:When they raised his solo, it was hilarious because, like he was like, he started hollering at cody come on man, come on help me out here and cody just walking by and he's like
Speaker 1:so we think cody's gonna turn heel or not, at SummerSlam.
Speaker 3:No, I think it's break him. I just think it's break him. My, I'm marking out, but I just, if he turns heel, he's gonna bring back Bullet Club, he's not.
Speaker 2:Don't do that to me, god. It's not.
Speaker 1:Hey, it's not a. Thing.
Speaker 2:I know it's not. Don't even put the thought in my head, I'll get excited.
Speaker 1:WWE can't use it. It's not a thing.
Speaker 2:They have the club. That's close enough.
Speaker 1:They can do the four horsemen yeah they can do the four horsewomen.
Speaker 3:It's going to be AJ Styles.
Speaker 1:What are you talking about? Bullet Club? Hello, this is Cooking with Mark. Go ahead, we're going to get with it. Bullet Club is going to be AJ Styles, finn Balor, cody Rhodes, that's all you need the. Tongas, the Tongas and who else? Who else do we got that's?
Speaker 2:all you need. Who else you don't need anybody. The Tongas, all of them. Tala shorter midder yeah. Might as well throw them all in there Cuckadoodle do.
Speaker 1:How about the amount of super kicks we got last night On Friday Night Smackdown, god almighty, it was a lot of super kicks. The Fatu segment there was like a hundred Fatu does one every second move fought.
Speaker 3:Who does one every, every second move. Also, I noticed on aw their super kicks sound better than the super kicks on wwe.
Speaker 1:They're louder.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the mic, the ring mic'd up louder I don't know if the ring's mic'd up louder. I did notice some of the wrestlers. They time it just right it's on their thighs.
Speaker 1:Well, they tell yeah, they time it. Just right, they put mics on their thighs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they time it just right, where both the person taking the kick and the person kicking both slap.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:It makes it Double sail, yeah, double sail.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I get that, but it makes it sound better. Clay's on the second season of LFG. Yep, the first season was awesome right. Jasper Troy wrestled again. Since that day I think he's lost twice. No, he's wrestled. Okay, that was good he lost to Javon. I love him and Oba Him and Saul Roka RKO's all over the place. Those are beautiful.
Speaker 3:I love Saul roca's gear. She's just all vans.
Speaker 1:I'm super confused about who's called up and who's not called up, like like julie's there, sol roca's there. Uh, julie is called up sol roca yeah, I know she's called up. I know that speaking of jasper troy, uh, found a wrestling name for me. Oh, say it, and it's kind of like Jasper Troy's gimmick. Yeah, that's okay though I am the Reckoning Draven Cage, Beautiful yeah.
Speaker 3:I like that.
Speaker 1:Beware of the Reckoning. Wes loves it.
Speaker 3:Can't rain all the time.
Speaker 1:It's like a raven. That's what it feels like's why it's a raven. Aleister Black feel I'm all over Aleister Black. I think that'll I could watch his entrance like 4 million times and I'll watch him wrestle all the time. I'm so happy with it. I actually just wish it wasn't that impressive. You know how we all feel about that anyway, and you guys do my name is Jeff yeah, good show guys way to go.
Speaker 1:Good job, we can get applause for it. Next show we'll do. We'll do next week. Next week, we'll do next week next week.
Speaker 1:We'll do next week that we can. I won't be gone. We can figure out. If Seth's, yeah, maybe we'll know more about all the fake injuries. Although I want to say before we go that we've said before that we felt like it would be disrespectful to fake the injury, and we've said that before. But if, like it would be disrespectful to fake the injury We've said that before but if Seth's doing it, then it kind of breaks all those rules and we don't have to worry about that anymore. And then you know that's just the way it is. That's just the way it is.
Speaker 1:It could also be a shoot because he's injured his leg before I mean yeah, that's why I asked if I could say both.
Speaker 2:I feel, like it really is hurt.
Speaker 3:They're just doing this to you know, it's like Tupac baby, just the way it is.
Speaker 1:That's just the way it is.
Speaker 2:All right, boys, you got anything else, nine plus 10 is 21.
Speaker 1:I guess. So, noahbo, yay, wes cougar bites all around you. Don't be marks today. Ring the damn bell, we'll be right back. This is awesome, this is awesome.