Work Or Shoot?: A Wrestling Podcast

Bloodline Burnout, Saudi Daddies, and AEW Chaos: A Work or a Shoot?

• Team T4 • Episode 35

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The week felt like a coin flip between a brilliant slow burn and a tired rerun, and that’s exactly where we start. We wrestle with the eternal question—are we watching a real Jey Uso heel turn or another head fake designed to stretch the Bloodline saga—and get honest about fatigue, nostalgia, and why pulling Paul Heyman out might be the only true reset. From there we zoom out: Saudi-hosted tentpoles change who gets to be there, which streaks survive, and how a Royal Rumble will feel when the body clock says 8 a.m. instead of prime time. Big moments get bigger; traditions get weird.

Then we get messy in the best way. We dissect Nia Jax’s finish fiasco as a masterclass in “who saves the beat,” and poke the bear at ESPN grading a show it helped platform. Oversaturation creeps in when every bundle, cameo, and talk segment tells you something massive is coming—until the match has to carry the weight. Across the street, AEW’s thrill ride delivers ladders, coffins, and Orange Cassidy popping out of a painting, even as the tag division overflows and commentary misses snap us out of the moment. We talk Tony Storm rumors, Mariah May’s scissors-as-heat, Andrade’s revolving door, and why women’s tag titles are overdue—if the stories can breathe.

There’s joy here too: Bayley’s split persona actually feels fresh, Braun Breakker’s name drift nods to a Steiner future, and the indie calendar in Kentucky reminds us what pure pop sounds like when the ropes groan and the fog machines are a little too ambitious. We share first-time ring lessons—steel cables don’t forgive and the camera lives on your right—and admit the hard truth: WWE risks becoming a theme park; AEW risks becoming a fever dream. The sweet spot is where fun meets discipline.

If you’re into heel turns that may not be, mega-shows that move continents, and the art of making chaos matter, hit play and ride with us. Subscribe, share with a friend who still argues about kayfabe at breakfast, and drop your take: do you want tighter stories or louder surprises?


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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, showing color productions proudly brings to you the greatest podcast on earth. Noah's in studio. Yeah. Claybo, yay. Wes. Oh. That was a wave.

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Work or shoot podcast. Pause. Ready? 321. Oh, yay!

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That was beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. Woo! We needed one of those. Casey's not here to work the board. So uh we haven't been here in years. Claybo, Wayne is not on the phone. Work or shoot. Work or shoot. Wayne O'Quin. That's our first work of the shoot of the night.

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Work of the shoot.

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Work of the shoot. That's not what I mean. What's our first worker shoot? Wayne can't come on the podcast this week. Oh yeah. Um, Klay still thinks it's a work. This is the equivalent of carrying cross to me. You can tell me it's not a work all you want to, and I'm still gonna think it is. So I'm gonna tell you Wayne's not on the phone as much as you need me to, but you're not gonna believe me. He's gonna interrupt in the 27-minute mark. Ladies and gentlemen, bro. So him getting you all was awesome, but the fact that it could have been so much better if it wouldn't have broken up. Yeah, but it's still awesome. Yeah, it still worked. It gave you just enough time to go, what was that? And then get broke up. We got so much to talk about. Um me and Noah both have had busy weeks and are not caught up on this week's wrestling. So we're we're but I actually watched, I actually watched the highlights and stuff the last couple weeks and have caught everything.

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You you're you're pizzas, bits and pizzas online.

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You're a busy man. You watch more indie wrestling than you do WWE now.

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Honestly, yeah.

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You don't have you don't have time.

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I think I've watched more than everyone this week. You've watched a lot of the last two weeks.

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Yeah, you were at working. You were working every time there was a show on, so you were just like watching it on your phone.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, uh, and we've been busy, so we haven't watched as much as we norm normally do.

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Oh, yeah, I've been watching every bit of it. I it's usually the opposite. It's usually you guys are catching me up on notes, and I'm like, and now every time like I message are like, y'all catch that? And they're like, no, don't no spoilers. I'm like, mother.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, Weno not being here eliminates the person who watches the least wrestling. So now we have to find somebody else. Yeah. And he doesn't watch any wrestling. Um Klabo, what's what's what's the what's the big worker shoot this week? Um there's a few. Yeah, there's a few I got. But one of the ones I have is worker shoot. Jay's turning hill. Oh yeah. We the heel turns been the heel turn's been a big talk. I I think it's way more likely Jimmy turns than Jay. Yeah.

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I think um Honestly, I think it's gonna be Roma just coming back as he'd at the table. Uh and it's it's all the look here while we do something else.

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Yeah.

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It's just them trying to get your attention to think it's a heel turn. Just like we all thought Cody was turning. Jay's not turning.

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Still think it.

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You know, I'm not sure. I I was getting his attention.

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Either throw up, throw up a two-sweet or just say bullet say bullet club. Uh and he's like, he's like, excuse me, where's that Jay?

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I just I think that it's it's all to just like get that started again. Because they're saying you sound like you don't you start to sound like Roman. You ain't the tribal chief yet. You ain't wearing the oolafala.

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Yeah. I don't I don't think it's gonna have anything to do with with Jay Turnhill. Uh I think we're way far away from Jay Ever Turn Hill.

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I read a I mean I guess he has. I read an article, I can't remember where. It wasn't like clickbait clickbait or anything. Um, but it was talking about how they fumbled the bloodline and they ended the storyline too fast. And I'm not talking about the solo thing, I'm talking about they breaking up the original bloodline. Yeah, that was their thing.

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But that's that's like that's so hindsight. But you like when you think about how long Bloodline went on and how much we were kind of getting sick of bloodline, that we were like, we watched two two war games in a row that was just that was bloodline versus bloodline, and we were like, can we can we do something else? In the moment, bloodline was awesome, but also we got sick of bloodline. That's why we were happy to see Cody get the titles.

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We're really sick of it. I don't think it's gonna be like titles, I think it's just gonna be a face faction.

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I think the problem is The MFT is getting they're they're not going anywhere. The problem is people are people are generally done, the general public is done with the bloodline storyline altogether. And no matter how you build it back to build it back up, people are still like, oh, it's still just the bloodline, and Paul's obviously gonna be involved somewhere. I think it's better if Paul goes is not involved in the bloodline storyline.

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I think you're right. Um I seen somewhere they're they were comparing it to like that being their Avenger. What was that? Being their Avengers Oh yeah um group. But honestly, I don't think when I think of that, I think of hey, that needs to be like a conglomeration AEW um of like like four horsemen or something like you it's someone from each background, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it does. Uh and and I I don't know, man. They all do the same thing. Yeah. Bullet club. Sweet. Just I just want to get there. Um, they were talking about uh Finn, like because Finn's so over. Yeah. And he's kind of getting the Dom treatment that like he's just getting people are cheering for him like crazy.

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Bro, do you know how happy it was to see him come out of NXT with his his real intro music?

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His real intro. Well, I think that's like just playing with us. I think that's gonna happen. We're gonna get that, we're gonna get that real intro, I think.

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Well, we got Demonito.

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So Demonito, that was so cool. I saw the clips on that too. Demon puppet. That was awesome. Mystery Guana, who knew he was gonna be the one that was over.

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Lehayesca.

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Le Hayesca, yeah, that's the the reptile. De iguana. I love that. That's beautiful. Worker shoot. Niax being the worst wrestler of all time. That's a shoot. Yeah.

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They're trying to blame it on the ref. And it wasn't the ref stuff.

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The ref didn't bust open her head.

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No, I was talking about the debauch kick out kick out. They said that they were trying to blame it on the ref. I was like, no, she missed the kick out because she thought it was already to the final pin. No, did you see it?

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Yeah, I saw the finish, but I didn't see where where she got gashed.

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I didn't see where she got busted. What was what like I don't know where she got busted. But you've seen how awful the finish was.

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Okay, so um the initial shove into the steel stairs.

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That's what gashed her?

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That gas that's what she she hit the corner. She yeah, she caught the corner of the she actually caught like the corner.

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So my uh I said, whose fault is this, right? With on the on the the show and color page on the on the workers page, yeah. I said, whose fault do you feel like this is? Okay. Clay, whose fault do you think it is? I think it's Jade's. Yeah? And here's why. You think the gash and the ending? No, not the ending. I think the gash wash was her fault. Why? So she tripped. Yeah. She because you know, you put your hands up. Right. She tripped instead of going shoulder first into it. And went head first. She went head first into the corner and that happened. She probably got stitches.

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The finish, whose fault? Have you not seen the group chat?

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Yeah, I seen the group chat.

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I was about to say, have you seen that was more than stitches, brother?

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The finish I do think is nigh.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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But I I also believe it could be Tiffy. Because if you see in the video, yeah, she kicks Jade off after the kick off. After the kick out. I know.

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You want me to tell you mine? Yeah. I do. I posted it on your thing.

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Yeah.

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I'm blaming Hunter for booking the match.

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For booking them. Yeah. Yeah. You if you book, if you book Jade and Naya, you're expecting that. Yeah. Stop doing that. We've done that. Stop doing that.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Who do you think's the finish? Who do you think fault the finish was?

SPEAKER_00:

Was it Naya getting pinned? Yeah. Naya getting pinned. I would honestly just by default, I guess, I'm gonna blame it on Naya.

SPEAKER_02:

You know what? It's really easy to blame it on Naya because after she did the when that she went down one, two and then did the swoop, and Naya seen that she didn't do it, then I started talking to her, and then she ten seconds later kicked out. Kicked out. I like Tiffy. Don't kick out. Just roll.

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I think Tiffy was supposed to kick her out. I think Tiffy was supposed to kick her out. But the ref has to do better than that.

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Yeah, she apologized.

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Ref to the ref has to do something like you just have to. Does it matter? Wouldn't Tiffy retained anyway? Even if Jay would have won.

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Was it a title match?

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No, it wasn't for the title, right?

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It was for number one contender. Right. To fight um Tiffany Vacia.

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Oh, to fight Vachir.

unknown:

Which is.

SPEAKER_01:

No, no, why that don't make any sense? Why would Tiffany?

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It was for the title?

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Yeah.

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But I thought it was gonna be for the next pay per view.

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Well, Crown Jewel has to be champion versus champion for that other for the Crown Jewel title. That's what it is. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So that was for the title and whoever won that faces Steph, Steph at Crown Jewel.

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Number one contender. That's what I said.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Except for Crown Jewel, it's not for the titles. Nothing's for the titles at Crown Jewel because it's not real. It's for the Crown Jewel title. It's for the Crown Jewel ring.

unknown:

Yes.

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They didn't a ring. That title vanished, bro.

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It disappeared. No, the title the they get the a commemorative ring and then they get uh employee of the month badge underneath the belt in Saudi. Stupid.

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While we're on this, worker shoot Saudi Arabia owns all American sports. I say shoot. They just do. They just do. The dude who runs the Saudi fund. Which it's not in Crown Crown Jewel's not in Saudi this year, but no, not Crown Jewel, but everything else is. Yeah, Rumble is. Rumble is this year. Rumble is this year? Yeah, and then next year. Next year, mania is. Yeah. Dude, it's just, I mean, money.

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They can't back out of that one. Money is what's important. They can't back out of that one like they did uh New Orleans.

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Yeah, they're literally just paying. I'm so excited, too. 27 uh 2027 is supposed to be Nashville.

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Nashville, right.

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Not no more.

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Nope. Nana.

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Nana. They're the We're gonna get fully covered up. Wrestling, every main event.

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I thought 27 was supposed to be Indianapolis. So it's crazy that it's crazy that um it's gonna do a bunch of stuff. Like it's gonna break a bunch of streaks. People who have been to WrestleMania's for years and years are not gonna be able to go to this one. It's crazy that it's not in America. I know.

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It's crazy. Well, it's not even the fact that it's not in America. I guess North America. It's the crazy. It's being in Canada. Yeah. I guess that's the only other place out of country. Mania's being, I think.

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I think it's been in Canada and that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Did they do it at Wembley? No, Wembley was uh That's AEW. Yeah, Wembley does, yeah. AEW. That show's awesome too, though. There.

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All out shows there. All in, all out something? All in. I will say though, I'm more excited for Saudi Rumble than Saudi Mania.

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Saudi Rumble will be awesome.

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Because honestly, the Greatest Royal Rumble years ago was amazing.

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Where?

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Back in 2018, they had it in Saudi. Oh yeah. It was a 50-man Royal Rumble. They called it the Greatest Royal Rumble. That's where the Titus O'Neill slide, yeah. Yeah. Then they made all the great commercials. Yes. Titus O'Neal. They just kept it. Hey, speaking of Titus O'Neill.

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Worker shoot, Titus O'Neill sliding under that ring.

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Oh, that's a shoot.

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I think that was a shoot.

SPEAKER_00:

But speaking of Titus O'Neill, uh, shout out to my big brother. He met him over the weekend here. They was in Nashville.

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What?

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Yeah. Dude was staying in their same hotel.

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That's random as hell.

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Doing some charity car thing for uh missing kids, he said. Yeah. That's weird. Was it like white fans? Uh no, a bunch of supercars. I got you. Yeah. Yeah.

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That's weird. Titus O'Neill. What a what a quinky dink. I know.

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But that's all he's done for the last like honestly since the slide. Titus O'Neal has shown nothing but charity stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, that's good. Oh, yeah, it's a great thing. There's one way to get over. I mean, he's more over in a meme than anybody. Oh yeah. We think Joe Hendry's gonna wrestle Cena. That would be awesome. He shared a thing on his Instagram that was. Damn, imagine Cena. I don't think it'd be good. No, we know that. But it's fun. Henry's not good. Funny. It made Wes yawn. His move is a choke slam.

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Like listen, right now. He's over and you're not. Right now, WWE's just not fun for me.

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Yeah, you're not enjoying it. You're you're you're you're sold on AW.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I'm not. It's just more fun right now.

SPEAKER_01:

I know. Well, can I tell you why it's more fun for you right now?

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I know why he's gonna say it's not fun.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, it's do you think it's untrue? What? That your favorite wrestler is the champion?

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And my boys are back.

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I called it.

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I called it just for anyone that doesn't know. Jurassic Quest is back. Jurassic Quest, Jurassic Express.

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Jurassic Quest.

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Jurassic Express is back.

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Jurassic Quest. Oh, we couldn't hear that, Dad. It's pretty loud.

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It's pretty loud. Jurassic Express is back.

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It was cool. That was really cool. Like, I don't I don't necessarily think he needed to throw the kill switch belt off. I think that was a little dramatic. But but it was I mean, it was cool.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean the whole thing was cool. Was it as dramatic as the squash match at the beginning of the WrestlePalooza?

SPEAKER_01:

So that has to be doing something, right? I don't even backs to 2014. Yeah, I don't even I don't even get what happened.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, so I'm gonna tell you what happened. They it was their first PLE on ESPN, and they're like, we gotta get these people to tune in. And they were like, oh, let's schedule it right at the same time as All Out. So All Out swerved and said, Well, we'll just do ours at three o'clock. And then they figured out the time slot that the main event was gonna be with Hangman and Protostar. They said, Alright, okay, this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna start during the main event and we're gonna book Lesnar and Cena first to get them to come over and watch us.

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Yeah.

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And then everybody did that, and then they immediately got pissed off.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I mean that match sucked. Right.

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Yeah.

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We're not happy.

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And I'm not and I'm not trying to be like team AEW here. I'm just stuck. I know what you mean. Like hating like business wise, this is that's the reason why they thought it was that was a wasted match. You know who got paid though? Lesnar. Because they literally absolutely they've already came out and said Lesnar's not coming back.

SPEAKER_01:

No. Did you see him stare down uh the TKO CEO or whatever? Yeah, because he he's the one that like made Lesnar stop fighting in UFC. Oh yeah. Remember because Lesnar like fell out with UFC. Like in 2016? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Just so everybody's but he did fail the drug test. Yeah, I know. Just so everybody knows.

SPEAKER_01:

So did Bon's Jones. Cena's not winning in another match until Saturday night spawned event. I like Cena winning the window.

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He's gonna fight AJ Styles and win.

SPEAKER_01:

Listen, I'm la la la. La la la la la la la la la la la. He has 99 PLE wins. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. He wants that hundredth win. And he's just gonna get the hundredth on his last match. Hey, I thought that never. Yeah, we said that. That's not a that's not it was a P. L. E. No, it didn't. Yes, you did. I don't know, maybe I did. It's not a PLE. But I don't think it is. Because it's just like normal TV. Sorry. The cock. No, I mean I you we're we're discussing it. I think we're agreeing it's not one. So then what is the one before that that he's gonna win it on?

SPEAKER_00:

Survivor series. Yeah.

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He's gonna win his match with Survivor Series.

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He'll probably be in war games.

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Oh yeah.

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Oh, that'd be fun.

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Maybe he'll never get a hundreds win. Oh, depressing. Uh unless he beats Styles. Unless he beats Styles? Yeah. Where? Crown Jewel. Crown Jewel. Oh, right. It's Crown Jewel. Yeah, I guess. Okay. That's October 4th. Yeah, so he could beat Styles and have his Hundreds win.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey, we got the same day as the KCW show.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, we got two wrestling shows.

SPEAKER_00:

Two wrestling shows. That sounds fun. Well, Noah. Crown Jewel will be in the middle of the day, won't it?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Awesome.

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Because it's in Perth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll be at like three in the morning again. Is that what it was last time? Oh, yeah. Remember, it was Chamber. Oh, yeah. You're going to have to come over, Noah. You're just going to have to come over at three in the morning. That's what we do. We did it last time. We made breakfast. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_00:

Awesome, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Bro, I'm going to be real with you. There ain't no way that mic didn't pick that up. Someone opened a creaky door. Yeah, it was a frog on the table.

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Barking spider. I've been trying my best just to make give him an excuse to use that.

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Oh, it's it's at eight in the morning.

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I ain't pressing a button.

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It's at eight in the morning? Oh, that's okay. Oh, that's very good. That works out too. We'll have we'll have we'll have pancakes. Absolutely. Just have a boys' day.

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Um worker shoot. What's next?

SPEAKER_01:

My next work or shoot is work or shoot Tony Shorem is coming to WWE. Oh. I just you don't think you you never think she is, though.

SPEAKER_00:

Like I've not seen nothing. Is there speculation? No.

SPEAKER_02:

The only speculation is Dusty.

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Yeah, well, you know, you could you could you could maybe not embarrass me like that when you when you say things like that.

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No, um it's a possibility because honestly, she kind of when when you think of like someone dropping a title, it it's a big like thing, you know, and this was kind of just uh a sneak roll up and she acted like she didn't know what happened.

SPEAKER_00:

What's well does anyone know her contract?

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know that information. I don't know about Tony Storm's contract. I wish we had the internet. You gotta go back to it. Call Tony real quick. Call Tony, yeah. Let him know. Yeah, that's all hidden, so nobody actually knows. Call Mr.

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Khan. But you know, um Mariah May is Did you see what she'd done?

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I don't know, did I?

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Did y'all not watch No Mercy?

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I didn't watch all of it. Well, I watched I watched the the wieners and the Oh she cut her hair off?

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Oh yeah. She cut what's her face's hair.

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Oh shoot.

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Like Jordan Grace. She took and cut Jordan Grace's hair off, like at the braids. Like she had her hair braided and then it was curly. And she took all the curls and cut them. That's hot. And like held them up.

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Wow. So muscle mommy lost to No, she won.

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She won. But like Mariah May like held up.

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Maybe Tony Storm will come save her. Timeless. Tony Storm. You don't like Tony Storm. She's she's only the only good wrestler in WE. Or in AEW, I mean. Oh no, I've always been a fan of her. Yeah. Found out today, uh, Javon Evans debuted on AEW.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, and 19. I didn't know 18.

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18, the 19 at on NXT. NXT, yeah.

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Yeah, I didn't know that uh originally.

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Um, also in other news, the Dudleys and the Hardys did their contract signing for their match. TLC, right? No, I think it's just a ladder match. Oh, just a ladder match. And then, you know, Bully Ray made the joke about he didn't even know Jeff was still alive.

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That's cute. You know, I really don't like him. I know it happens more and more that I don't like him for some reason, but um I don't know, he gets my nerves. Yeah. Also, that match is not gonna be good, right? No.

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I mean, like, it's just not gonna be a good match. I don't know the market measure's gonna love it, though. Oh, we're gonna watch it.

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We're gonna watch it. What's it on? Oh, YouTube probably. Uh there was um Pokemon, just like the C was it C CW? No, CML. CML L, yeah. And Pokemon Crossover. It looked like Pokemon Stadium. It was wild.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, they was it was a the Arena Mexico, but yeah. It was I didn't watch a lot of things, but I can't I read a few things about it.

SPEAKER_01:

I read the things, I've seen some of the matches that looked like classic, like everybody was pretty much in Pokemon colors. Yeah. So the matches looked like Pokemon battles, which is that's pretty cool.

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I mean, I dig it.

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I did it. I dig it.

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I know you watch Highlights of All In, speaking of that, like themes. Um that crazy tag team match. What was it like eight-man tag?

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Oh, yeah.

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Um jet speed, that tag team. Did you notice did you notice their colors?

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Uh no.

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They were Sonic and Tails.

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Oh, that's cool.

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Yeah, there's they were Sonic and Tails.

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I'm digging that lately. There's a lot more tag teams doing the doing, I mean, you know, thank you, New Day.

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Bandito. Thank God for the new day. Bro Dito is what they're call themselves now. Oh, the the the new tag team champs. Yeah. Bandito.

SPEAKER_01:

I did see that Brodyto.

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That killer moonsaults.

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We picked them right. We picked them right. Who's he teaming with? Um Bandito.

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No, Bandito and who's the bro in Brodyto? It's uh the guy from Malachi Blacks. Oh, Brody King. Brody King. I got you. And then they handed craziest spot ever, they handed Bandito a ladder on while he was standing on the top rope, and he did a moonsault off the top rope out of the ring and landed on two guys. With the ladder, holding the ladder. Holding it and did a moonsault on the rock.

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And then um Darby's coffin drop on a literal coffin. Did I tell you that was the most ruthless thing? Yeah, because it was he like hit it right in the part where the coffin splits in two. Like where the top and bottom of the coffin.

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It wasn't a coffin drop, it was uh the bastard picked him up and yeah, but he turned like a coffin drop.

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Like he he he knew how he could land. Yeah, he hit like the top of him on it and the the bottom and the bottom didn't the top didn't. So you knew he hit the top so hard. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

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Ridiculous ridiculous what'd he do? Uh Damian Priest move. Oh, yeah, Razor's Edge. Razor's Edge. Does he do that? I've never seen him do that. I think I don't I think it was just one of those I'm gonna demolish him things. Yeah. Because he was dude, bro, or Darby's new is so freaking huge. Yeah, he's so big. His forearms are bigger than his head. Yeah. He got a haircut too, finally. He that happened before he left. But he finally got a haircut? Yeah. And he realized.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. It happened when he joined the Death Riders or whatever.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh damn, I forgot he was part of the Death Riders. He'd been out for a while. He's been out for a while.

SPEAKER_01:

Like Bullet Club 7 or whatever the Death Riders are. John Moxley just cannot exist without a faction. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, honestly.

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He literally can't exist without Claudio Cassioli. Cassianoli.

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I mean, honestly.

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Cast Cast Cast Claudio uh Cesaro.

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Colostomy bag. Yeah. We wouldn't have Roman if we didn't have shield. We wouldn't have shield if we didn't have punk.

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Without you.

SPEAKER_00:

You are right. What if we got the shield with Chris Hero? Like the initial plans.

SPEAKER_01:

Won't you be my hero, baby? Who was who was he was supposed to be Roman? I think. I think you were supposed to be Roman.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, all were supposed to wear masks too, and they came out one time with masks on, and McMahon freaked out. He was like, I hate this.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's because they did that later with um with uh Mustafa's group. Remember that? Yeah. It was it was uh Retribution. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. You know what? They had potential. It could have it could have got there.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

We got uh what's her name from it? Yeah, it did. We got what's her name from it though, because she she was in the group uh Meat Meachin.

SPEAKER_00:

Meechin was in the group, yeah. Even I think the Raw Underground thing, if it wasn't during COVID, I think it had potential.

SPEAKER_01:

I think Mustafa's a good wrestler, though. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clayton? What do you got next? Work or shoot. Corey Graves is coming back to wrestle. We're all we're all marks anyway.

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I think that was just to get him off of time off because his wife's having another baby. Oh yeah. They're having so many kids. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean Is he he is he still with Carmelo?

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Yeah.

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Well, the fact that I know what you were gonna say, Wes. The fact that um I wasn't gonna say anything. That he took that bump though makes me think he can wrestle.

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I don't know, man. I and I told I told you this, so I was like, that's the easiest listener has ever been. He laid him down, yeah. He laid him down. He he laid him down, made sure to put a pillow under there, tucked him in, and gave him a kiss on the forehead. No, he really did. He was he was so careful with him. And he's not careful. So that tells me though that I'm not saying Brock's a changed man or nothing, but the the usually he don't give a shit about anybody, but the fact that he actually done something to help someone else. Yeah. Props.

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Surprising. I don't I also don't know. Um I just don't know anything. That's the problem. Is I feel like as a mark that I am, everything I think is wrong and I can't get picks right because I'm marking out the whole time. Right, Clay? Yep. We're just marking out the right the whole time because we can't get we can't get picks right because of it. That we think we think everything's gonna happen and make a bunch of random picks. Yeah.

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Um I try to be realistic with myself, but it's hard to.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, no, I'm I'm not, I'm not, I'm not good at it. It's fine. Uh right. Can we talk about how Wayne's not here again? He he it was like that was like it was like CM Punk never showed up after the Survivor series.

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Yeah.

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He just never came back after that.

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Didn't come back at all to rumble.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, why did that happen? Clay, you got the notes. Restopalooza was trash. That's yeah, this is not a worker shoot. Um well, that was all my worker shoots. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Well can I can I just say one thing about Restopalooza?

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No.

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The whole Undertaker spot Stephanie McMahon, she deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. But the fact that Undertaker came out, and we all know Undertaker loves to never break character, he loves to never break K-fape. He's all old school. But the fact that he came out as American Badass, which he does now because he he hung up the boots, gave him a map, gave him to uh gave him to Bray, Bray White for that. And so as soon as that happened, thank you, Bray, he never came out as Undertaker again. He came out as American Badass. Him coming out though, and then literally going from American badass to Stephanie, let me get over there beside you, and started talking like he was my path all, you know, and being, you know, he he was not Undertaker, he was Angel Baby.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, I know. He was, and my favorite part of that, and I know you were probably gonna say this, but my favorite part when he was like, Me and Stephanie go way back, and I was like, Yeah, when you tried to crucify her, yeah. Never forget how many people's how many people's parents banned him from watching wrestling when they seen Undertaker crucify Vince McMahon.

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Shout out Stone Cole for saving her baby.

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Yeah, I know. Hell yeah. Can I get a hell yeah? Hell yeah. No.

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Thank you, Clay. Thank you, Clay. Sorry for cutting. But I just I I didn't like it just because of the fact that, you know, he he went out of character. Like you you're you preached for 60 years, man, not to break that shit, and that's what you did.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Uh but I mean, you know, if we're gonna if we're gonna talk about that, punks fighting in Saudi. Well, you I know.

SPEAKER_02:

You get what I'm saying, though, because the Taker's taker.

SPEAKER_01:

What? I know. Whatever. Somebody had to do it, and like Triple H wasn't gonna do it. So it's it's fine. Also, it seemed like they just had a bunch of time to kill. Sounded like they were like, we gotta murder, like we gotta murder like 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, that's a surprise that because he promised surprises.

SPEAKER_01:

My biggest pet peeve is when a promoter goes, We're gonna have all kinds of big surprises, we're gonna have great surprises, it's gonna be awesome. You're gonna love what's happening at this show. And then fucking nothing happens. Like nothing. The biggest surprise was how squashed Cena got. That's what we were surprised.

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Yeah.

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Now I will say.

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And then Jay Uso hitting himself in the head.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah. Jay, speaking of getting speaking of getting split open. Uh yeah. Uso yeeted himself in the head with a chair. Why was his face so close to Braum when he did that? Do you know? Did you watch him hit him with a chair? Yeah. Why did he have his head down there?

SPEAKER_02:

It's it's it's breaker game.

SPEAKER_01:

Was he calling out a spot? Breaker.

SPEAKER_02:

Breaker jumped up and caught it real stiff to make it bounce back in his hand.

SPEAKER_01:

I guess, I guess, bro, but maybe breaker's muscles are just like elasticity.com. Solid freaking steel. Yeah, you hit him, hit him with a chair, it's like hitting a chair with another chair, it bounces back.

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He's the new big bad booty daddy.

SPEAKER_01:

He he legitimate, like Jay legitimately splits his head open.

SPEAKER_02:

Rumor mill is they're gonna start going away from the breaker name. Oh, it's gonna call him Braun? They're just gonna start calling him Braun and kind of like slowly the breaker's gonna disappear.

SPEAKER_01:

I figured that. That makes sense. That way they can call him Steiner. Yep. Yeah. That's what I figured. They're gonna do that because of because of Scott's son. Right? Because Scott's son's on his way up, right? Yep.

SPEAKER_02:

And then on top of that, Paul has been saying it all the time. Like, you know who his his daddy is, you know who his uncle is, you know they're all genetic freaks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So it was announced. Well, I've seen it. I don't know if it's announced. Scott's son is going on LFG next season. Oh, that'd be awesome.

SPEAKER_02:

We're gonna get a new Steiner tag.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, dude. That's wild. Steiner Brothers and you know they're immediately gonna do the most dangerous. Absolutely. They're immediately gonna do that movie. When's Big Papa coming?

SPEAKER_02:

Next month. The eighth, I think.

SPEAKER_01:

I thought it was the fourth. So he definitely can't wrestle, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Big Papa phone?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, he can't do anything. No, but it's crazy though to think five years ago.

SPEAKER_02:

It's it's not a show, it's just a big thing. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01:

I know that, but I'm just saying because he would have already been involved in WWE.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

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Like he would have already been in something because of Brahman.

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He has no chest muscles left.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah, that's right. That shit split. Yeah, that's what he said on Van Vleet.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Rick, too. Rick must be really bad shape too, because he would he would have to be.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm pretty sure he's on oxygen.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, he is on oxygen.

SPEAKER_00:

Damn, I don't know when the last time Rick saw a ring.

SPEAKER_01:

No, for sure. He's older though, right?

SPEAKER_00:

I think.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's on oxygen.

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Dog face gremlin.

unknown:

Oh, oh, oh.

SPEAKER_01:

He's awesome. He was he as cool as Bron Breaker is, his dad's just as cool. Like his dad was awesome. Oh, yeah. Like he just Scott just got over because Scott was so extreme. Rick, Rick was not vocal. That's why Rick didn't get over. Rick was over.

SPEAKER_02:

How um Braun got picked up when he did his tryout. He he worked for three, like they they did all like the runs trying with his tryouts in Florida. And uh he he like excelled past everybody in everything. But no one heard him speak for three days. And they're like you you gotta talk, Ben. Because he was just focused on the physical stuff. So then when they gave him the mic to start doing that, then they said he just broke out and started acting like um his uncle. And and when he act and when I say he act like he did the voice like his uncle and did the Steiner, but instead of him like repeating what his uncle said, he looked at everybody that he was doing the triad in front of him, he just started ripping everybody. Yeah. And he started ripping all the current members of like who's like the big names that year. And they were like, Oh, we got something.

SPEAKER_01:

I just I just think I mean I just think it could go either way, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Thing about him too is uh he is like Taker. He does not like to break K Fabe.

SPEAKER_01:

No.

SPEAKER_02:

Um also even when he's doing interviews when he did the Undertaker podcast, um, he wouldn't go into detail about behind the scenes stuff. Like he like he he's like, no. Yeah, don't want to go, don't want to say it. He won't talk about like anything that's not part of the script.

SPEAKER_01:

Clay got to do a little bit of uh Clay got to do a little bit of um he done some uh training and got in the ring a little bit and he didn't he didn't he didn't get to do any he doesn't get to do any bumps or anything, but he got to do like seminars and got to feel the ring under his feet and stuff. Yeah. I got to climb over the ropes and how bouncy was it? Not as much as you think, was it clay?

SPEAKER_02:

Like it was it just barely gives, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, he was uh do some arm wrench stuff and yeah uh that's awesome. They made me climb over the turnbucks onto the outside. Yeah. And so he was he was getting in and out of the ring. To get me out of my left hand habit, I guess. Because everybody leads with their right. You can't lead with your left.

SPEAKER_02:

So it's not on camera view.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, well, I mean, and everybody's like you everybody's like you can't collar elbow with a different arm than somebody else.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, different hand than somebody else. So did you step over the top rope like taker? Because I know you're gonna be.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh no, uh like he no, he was climbing to the outside. Oh, okay. Like he was climbing to the outside. I was climbing the turnbuckle. Oh, like basically leaning up on the turnbuckle.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm just picturing because he's so freaking tall, anyways. How dare you? How dare you?

SPEAKER_01:

I can't do that.

SPEAKER_02:

Listen, how dare you for getting taller than us?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Those ropes are pretty high. Those ropes were high. Is it? Yeah, yeah. He'd have to be six more inches tall to do that.

SPEAKER_02:

Did they hurt when you bounced off of him?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, his his back was his back was red. Yeah.

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Steel cables.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. It's fun though. He had a good time. That's all the information we can share. I'm happy. I'm happy to go back too. Yeah, go back. They're doing more. Do some more. And hopefully when he turns 18, he'll be able to actually get in the room. And I'll still be with them, hopefully. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, just remember us when you make it mania.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. And they was all bragging on me because I drove. Or we drove two hours. Yeah, I drove two hours to take him there. That's yeah. Yeah, it needed to be done. It wasn't even that bad. No, it need to be done. I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_02:

It's first mania entrance. He's gonna plug the podcast.

SPEAKER_01:

He's been wearing that robe around all day. That bat that uh like the night robe. He's been wearing that around all day doing AJ's entrance. You see when Bailey did it? When Bailey did AJ's entrance was really funny. Yeah, it was funny. Oh, hey, that's not a let's talk about. Have you seen the Bailey stuff?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Bailey like talking to herself like like crazy Bailey. Is is that her is her gimmick Schizo Bailey? Yeah, gimmick's gonna be.

SPEAKER_02:

So basically, like she's Hugger Bailey.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, she's Hugger Bailey but crazy.

SPEAKER_02:

So her last match, she was Hugger Bailey, asked um, what's her name? Uh Valcaria to be in her corner. Yeah. And Valkyria's like, what are you talking about? And then like she talked her into it. And then when she won the match, Valcaria came out to hug her and like and she like shoved her to the ground. Like, who the what the what are you doing in here? And she's like, You told me to come out. She's like, No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_01:

And like nice. I'm actually really into it. Like, I'm I'm into them doing something different.

SPEAKER_02:

So she's she's split personality.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm into him doing something different. Uh we can do some uh follow the figs.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh follow the figs right now. I'm going to call it and say Austin Theory's coming back. Yeah. Because his A Town Down figure is coming out with the new hand pieces to do the A T. Yeah, the new A Town Down and the new tag belt. And the new tag belt. And the Theory.

SPEAKER_01:

There's already a Theory with the new tag belt. Or uh I mean um Waller with the new tag belt.

SPEAKER_02:

There's a couple more followers. Uh I noticed I can't remember. DOMs. There's just DOMs everywhere.

SPEAKER_01:

There's all the DOMs everywhere. Like DOM.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh this can be part of the follow the figs. Double champ. Double champ DOM. I just got the notification that my new Cody got chipped.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh shit. The the one with the dog? No. Or the brandy.

SPEAKER_02:

One with Brandy.

SPEAKER_01:

Brandy. The brandy one did chip.

SPEAKER_02:

Nice. Yeah, I just got the notification like Brother Cody. Yesterday the email was like, congratulations. It's Brother Cody. That one is.

SPEAKER_01:

Brother Cody.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Anyway. I miss it. Um that's nice. I'm looking forward to that figure, actually. But Dom's figures are everywhere. Double champ. Oh, speaking of that. Oh, Bafimi's got a figure coming out. His first figure just released. And he just lost the title. And he just lost NXT North American title. No. Did you know? Or the NXT title. Did you know he lost it? Yeah, I saw Ricky. Do you think that means he's gonna win Rumble? Do you think that means he's gonna come in? He's gonna come in. Win Rumble, go to Mania, beat Cody Rhodes. Win Rumble? Yeah, man. Have you seen him? He's so big. He's huge. He'll definitely be in Rumble.

SPEAKER_02:

Where's it at?

SPEAKER_01:

What are you looking for?

SPEAKER_02:

That big hi-a-Mark sign.

SPEAKER_01:

I got a sticker right here. Hold on. There it is.

SPEAKER_02:

Hiya Mark. Brother Cody, as he was referring to, is Cody Raheem Rhodes.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, Cody Raheem Rhodes.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean this with all respect. It's brother Cody. Brother. Brother Cody.

SPEAKER_01:

Brother Cody. Yeah, I know. Why is he back? I thought he was filming.

SPEAKER_02:

Romans even done filming. Yeah, they're done, dude.

SPEAKER_01:

It's gonna be so bad.

SPEAKER_02:

It doesn't take long to make a movie.

SPEAKER_01:

I think it's gonna be awful. I think it's legitimately gonna be so bad.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't think it is.

SPEAKER_01:

The cast, dude. Shut up. The cast is like there's like two real actors in it. The rest of them are Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes. Yeah, no, Curtis Jackson's in it.

SPEAKER_02:

So we don't even know the we don't even know the plot of this. It could it could actually not be like an actual plot of the Street Fighter plot, and it could be like a Minecraft movie where it's random kids that um somehow um it's like an episode of Gravity Falls when they they got the fake Street Fighter guy out of the game. This is you killed his father. Now I must fight you.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Well, I it could yeah, it could just be anything. There's gonna be so many vertical suplexes in this movie. Like never forget that time that Blade done a perfect vertical suplex and then kip-upped better than better than Drew McIntyre. So like that was uh and made the sound. You know what I'm talking about? And Blade was like the most beautiful vertical suplex. When's he gonna win the title? Blade? No. Drew.

SPEAKER_02:

He won the Daywalker title. All I want to see is Cody Rhodes scream out Sonic Boom.

SPEAKER_01:

Sonic Boom. He should do that. We should have a crossover event. Are we gonna have a crossover event where Cody comes out as guy? It's like in the like NW.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know. I want to see that. I feel like once the movie releases, like we'd probably get that.

SPEAKER_01:

What's it gonna be on? Is it gonna be in theaters or I'm sure it'll be in theaters? We should all just go watch it. We're gonna go watch it and we're gonna live stream it from the from the movie theater and go to jail. That'd be so funny. Arrrrr. Oh my god. Oh. Wow. Don't do it. Oops. This show's off the rails. Wino, you're not here. To keep us on the rails. To keep us on the to keep us in the in the rails. In the ring? Yeah.

unknown:

We like that.

SPEAKER_01:

We wanna talk a little bit about no mercy. NXT. No mercy. Well, that's what I was gonna say. Do you guys think it's more likely that Obafimi or Ethan Page gets moved to the main roster?

SPEAKER_00:

Obafimi. Is the title does Ethan still have the title? I think it's gonna be Oba then, I bet.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I think Oba is gonna, I think Ethan is like NXT's face. Like I mean, not face, but I mean I think he's like everybody knows. Yeah, I think I think everybody knows he's there.

SPEAKER_02:

Even Jamon Evans. You know what? I want to say this too, though. We've said this about three times with Trick Williams every time he drops that title. We're like, he's coming and he never comes.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, can I be real though? I've the more I watch Trick, uh, the more I watch his promos and stuff, the more I don't think he's ready. Like his promos are not great.

SPEAKER_02:

Like his over.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, he's just over.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, yeah, dude, but like also shout out Trick Williams. Thanks that I bought that figure. Now Colt goes through the house going, whoop that trick. Whoop that trick. So he's going home to his mom tonight and does not know what that means.

SPEAKER_00:

Just think he's been watching Hustle and Flow. Yeah. Good call. Classic.

SPEAKER_01:

I know this isn't wrestling related, and but we just mentioned 50 Cent. Curtis Jackson. I don't know if you guys I use the term over, like the wrestling term over in general life, and people don't know what I'm talking about most of the time. Yeah. I do that all the time. Do you guys do that? Yeah. No, I'm like, I'm like, how did why is Curtis Jackson suddenly over? Have you seen his have you have you seen his haircut?

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And nobody means.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. No. For they showed a behind the scene picture.

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Or for Balrog.

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Yeah, for Balrog. He has Balrog's hair.

SPEAKER_01:

He looks awesome. Yeah. He legitimately looks awesome. He's got the spikes. Yeah, he's got Balrog's hair. But um not Balrog like Lord of the Rings Balrog. You know, Balrog Boxer. Balrog. Um Noah.

SPEAKER_00:

What?

SPEAKER_01:

I got you. That was funny. No, he's just suddenly over. He's got a new show out called 50 Ways to 50 Ways to Find a Killer or something. 50 Ways to 50 Ways to Solve a Murder. 50's a way to solve a murder. I know it's so funny that he got over. I think what happened was I know it's totally unrelated. I'm sorry. This has nothing to do with wrestling, but I think he's seen Snoop Dogg get over. Yeah. And he was like, if that dude can get over and he was in NWA.

SPEAKER_00:

But at the same time, though, he's been he wasn't, but 50's been hustling for a long time. I mean, don't he does he not own vitamin water? Yeah. Yeah, he does.

SPEAKER_01:

I know that. I'm just saying, but like But but there's a lot of dudes like that, right?

SPEAKER_02:

He has like that whole media book in the 50 ways to prove to you that P. Duty's a shitty person. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

What about him getting Floyd Mayweather, trying to get Floyd Mayweather to read a book?

SPEAKER_01:

Dude, the funniest shit ever, one of my favorite things ever is when Floyd, when he tried to get Floyd Mayweather, he was like, send him this and was like, read this fucking book. And Floyd Mayweather, instead of being able to, instead of being able to read the book, he just sent a screenshot of his bank account back to him. And 50 was like, all right, that's fair. He had like$2 billion or something.

SPEAKER_00:

That's the thing I love about 50 is he's gonna talk his shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, you know, you don't have to read if you have two million dollars. And he was like, that's that's fair. I think what got 50 over is he's the only dude from that era who's not trash. Like what got 50 over was like, actually, turns out everybody else is a scumbag. All right, listen, I know he's trash, but he's not what about him? M.

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Yeah, but M was like Before him and brought him in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I know that. I know that. But I feel like M is earlier than that, though. He is, he's about to probably. M is earlier than that, though. Yeah. But 50 turns out was I mean, I know he was a gangster, like a legitimate gangster, but he's never been like like sexual assault or like the shit that matters, right? Yeah. But I mean, killing people don't matter anymore. We do that all the time here.

SPEAKER_00:

Bloody we're cool. This is this is America. You know what I mean? Don't catch him slipping.

SPEAKER_01:

Don't catch me slipping on I broke this chair about the yeah, you did break that chair. That was awesome. I watched it. Yeah, I absolutely watched it happen in real time. That was awesome. Speaking of breaking a chair, uh where are you going with that? Jussa's face. While we're on that topic. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. ESPN is gonna ruin wrestling. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Um, what about ESPN like the day after? Like, already shitting on the show on their website. Gave it a C.

SPEAKER_01:

What the it's like they forgot they bought it. You know what I mean? It's like they or it's like they forgot it was on their channel. They were like, oh shit, wait. They're like, let's review this WWE show. It kind of sucked. Where was it on?

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I'm just saying, man, like we talked about this, and I've said this like 400 times on the podcast before I was worried about this. Was you know, like, Disney did the same thing with Marvel. Disney did the same with the same thing with Star Wars. I've said this before, it's oversaturation kills. And what they do, they Disney owns ESPN, Disney owns Hulu, all that stuff. To get WWE, you have to bundle all the Disney stuff, and then all of a sudden it was like WWE. You couldn't keep up with how many appearances on how many shows they showed up in. They showed up in like every ESPN talk show. Yeah. At least someone did. And you were like, when did this happen? I gotta watch that. I gotta watch this, I gotta watch that. Then you get to the PLE and it's like The Force Awakens.

SPEAKER_01:

I was telling you, it just fell down beside you. Yeah, it literally found it.

SPEAKER_02:

No one knows what The Force Awakens is. It's the shittiest Star Wars movie. They killed fucking sorry for cussing Clay Han Solo.

SPEAKER_01:

Movie's pretty good. They killed Han Solo. He was old. Also, spoilers. Spoilers, sorry.

SPEAKER_02:

I never want to hear Star Wars, man. Never want to hear Chewbacca scream out like that again. He lost both his best friends.

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I hurt myself. You sound like my car when it's three quarts low. Okay, guys.

SPEAKER_00:

Guys party pooper.

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Right. We'll let anybody have any fun. Oh boy. I just want to talk wrestling. Nazis. Um draw day release. Yeah. Worker shoot.

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That was a shoot. He had 18 months. That's less shit on his contract. It's a shoot. Apparently he said he was sick of working with the quote unquote gringles.

SPEAKER_01:

So here's something. Andrade might just be hard to work with. Because he got released from WWE for this. Released from AEW. Then he got released from AEW for it. And now he's got released from WB again for it.

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Also.

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The same shit, right?

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It's always involved a flare.

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It's always involved a flare.

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Maybe you can't take it, dude. What was the flare in AEW? Um Rick showed up to every one of his matches and like walked him out and stuff.

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Yeah.

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I was walking like a zombie just now.

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Walk like an Egyptian.

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No.

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Yeah, so maybe he's just it sucks because I love Andrade. He's so easily over.

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We better find that fig fast.

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Yeah, we'll find it. We'll find it this week. Also, order two.

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Did any of y'all know that the speed title is still a thing? I told Clay that today. Yeah.

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I forgot to tell you guys that. That I knew that they said that when they said they were going to cancel it, they said that was a wrong report, that they were just going to move it from Twitter to a show. Like it's on NXT, I guess. I think so. I think it's like the pre Candace LaRae has it right now? No, it no. They're just not Sauluka. Yeah. Sol Ruka. They're just not going to show it in. I mean, it's just not going to be on television very much.

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So it was on the main card anymore. So it was a pigeon. So it was a gay pigeon.

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Press the button.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I believe so. What? What? Um worker shoot. I don't have anything else.

SPEAKER_02:

I got one. I got one. I got one. Work or shoot. Is Edge coming back to A or WWE?

SPEAKER_01:

Workershoot Edge is coming back?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't think so. But I'll let y'all talk.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, you don't you don't think so. Cleveland, what do you think? I'm in between. Because I think it could happen for Cena's last match or a match with Cena. Yeah. But it could also just Because he did the Five Knuckle Shuffle the other night. I know. And his contract's up. And AEW. And that feud's over.

SPEAKER_02:

And AEW, you know, even let Ritter know like they they posted him doing it on their website and said, hey, we've seen what you did there.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. But Beth Phoenix just came back.

SPEAKER_02:

But that doesn't mean she's all late. No, I think that was just an appearance. I will say this. Beth Cope. Beth Cope. So Cope, Cope. I don't know if he's. I thought Percy Jackson was already almost finished. Can I ask you a question? It's not a movie. It's a Disney Plus series. Okay. What's the question? That was it. Was that really it? Yeah. It's not a movie. Um who's on it? Edge.

SPEAKER_00:

On a Disney Plus show.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, he's he was on season one. They're filming season two. I don't I thought they were almost finished with it. But he plays what's the Greek God of War?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh Kratos? Look it up. Wait, what? God of War? Kratos? Kratos? War writers? What's happening right now?

SPEAKER_02:

Ares. Oh yeah. Greek God of War is Aries. He plays Ares on the Percy Jackson show. Okay. Um, so.

SPEAKER_00:

Ooh!

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Edge. That's so stupid.

SPEAKER_00:

What's for God to do with WWE? It's on Disney Plus. Yeah. Disney owns WWE. Yeah, okay. He's just here.

SPEAKER_02:

I was saying that's why he was written. I don't listen to you mostly. He was written out of AEW, so he they said possibly to go film that. Like his parts as Aries again in the new season.

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On this day. I really think he's I really think he's I think it's gonna be a match. It'd be awesome if he was a good thing.

SPEAKER_00:

I would feel like the This is more just more of a take. Best thing to do with him come in for the last match, and that's like both of their retirement matches.

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That's what I was thinking. Is that Edge could retire too? I don't know how he's back from that ankle injury anyway.

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Broke leg.

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I know it was crazy.

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Also, though, awesome with like Beth Phoenix taking that spot because we were talking about how there's no there's none of that. Like the most we got with WWE was the fake smacking of the mine. You know, and she's like, you like that, you like that. And then Beth just like I didn't even see what happened. I'm not gonna catch the Can I tell you? No, I don't care. So they um F FTR FTR after the match, you know, Edge wins at FTRs, they jump him, and uh they handcuff Edge, and Beth Phoenix comes out and she's trying to get him get the handcuffs off, and it's not working, and they're starting to walk towards Edge after they squash uh Christian and he says, get out of here, and she says, I love you, kisses him, turns around, starts beating the fuck out of FTR. Sorry for cousin. FTR starts beating the crap out of her and then does a uh a pile driver on her. Oh nice, yeah. So it, you know, like yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, her taking she took she took some spots and thought it was cool. Yeah, and she's cool.

SPEAKER_00:

It was funny just because I I asked the question in the group chat, probably a stupid question is where it was contained in WWE. Yeah, but about with that tag match, if we was gonna get any more than just a slap to the face. No, we would we didn't.

SPEAKER_02:

No, not really, but with that, uh you know, they it was cool. Um also this week's episode of Dynamite, um, Willow came out and like I wish I had a record scratch button. Not that Willow.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, okay. I was about to say I about took a double take too. Uh I know you did.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh yeah. Willow. Willow, not Willow, sorry. Willow is something else.

SPEAKER_01:

No, Willow is a chick. Willow's the chick from AWS.

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Okay, yes.

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Willow Nightingale.

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Willow Nightingale. She came out to Yes.

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I wanted to say, have you seen her Instagram?

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No. Um and she came out and uh started with FTR and was like, but mentioned Beth Phoenix. That's why I'm thinking Beth Phoenix might be something to do because she's like, Beth Phoenix is the reason why us women can stand up to guys like you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So hot take, FTR sucks. Yeah. God. I'm really sick of watching them. Uh let me let me read you what I wrote to Wes uh about AEW, Noah.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm listening.

SPEAKER_01:

We were talking about the show, and he said, How do you feel about it? And I said, Well, there was way more wrestling in the AEW show than there was WE show, which is a fact. And I'm good with that. But Darby and Mox match was mostly just violence, which is fine, but they both psychic promos, so it does it matter anyway. Hangar looked awesome, but his competition couldn't keep up. The refs are better in WWE, and the announcers are a literal joke in AEW. I always think that that they're an actual like Tony Shavani is a legend, but dude.

SPEAKER_02:

Time to give it up.

SPEAKER_01:

Excalibur, his voice is good, but he misses so many spots. And then nobody else knows what's going on. Um What about Taz? It's Taz. Uh WW is so commercialized, it's almost unwatchable, and AEW is so indie and overbooked that it's almost unwatchable. Uh I want AEW events with WWE wrestlers.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Right? I mean, that's really what it feels like. AEW stuff is so overbooked because they want to. So WWE's doing counter programming, and they're doing counter programming as scheduling things at the same time.

SPEAKER_02:

They did it again.

SPEAKER_01:

AEW's doing counter programming that how many ever matches WWE is having, AEW doubles it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. That doesn't always work. Because then because having 12 storylines running is hard. You know what I mean? Especially in a company where where your guys are contractors and then you know what I mean, where it's not. So I think that's I think that's hard to do. That's why the storylines kind of get lost in AEW. Yeah. Is because there's so fucking many storylines. Like, what is the storyline with FTR and and Cope and Christian?

SPEAKER_02:

Like now it's they assaulted his wife.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. I don't know what it was before, though. Right. Like, because it's like there's so much stuff going on, especially with tag teams. There's so much stuff going on.

SPEAKER_02:

So many tag teams.

SPEAKER_01:

They also announced their biggest stars are all in tag teams.

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They also announced the women's tag team titles. They presented. You've seen that. Well, pretty cool, but still it's just another thing.

SPEAKER_01:

They never had women's tag team titles. That's crazy. That blows my mind. They don't even have women's tag matches because of that, I bet.

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Yep.

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Now they do.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, they have tag matches, but it was always like a few tag matches. Um, but uh yeah, I agree with like there's there's so many storylines. But with that being said, too, um with I feel like it's kind of come full circle with them bringing people back together, they're putting people where they used to be. It's one of those things where it's like maybe they're gonna kind of push and make not as many storylines.

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Yeah.

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Because like I don't know, that pop when Jack Perry came out.

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The the the Perry and Luchasaurus. And and Luchasaurus pop was was very good. I think Perry's at his best when he's with him. So, I mean, you know, and he and he got to be healed for a while, so those dudes would be awesome. But again, that's just another tag team, though. Yeah. So like they're just they're just everywhere. Of course, WWE's like that, too. There's like a million. Tag teams, it's really hard to keep up. Uh none none of them are incredible, but some are I mean, you know, it's weird. Although I like what Street Profits are doing all the time.

SPEAKER_02:

Are they still together?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, they haven't broke up yet. They haven't broke up yet, but that's gonna happen eventually.

SPEAKER_02:

That's oh, Orange Cassidy came back too.

SPEAKER_01:

Orange Cassidy, I forgot he was out.

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He's been gone for a while.

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If he wasn't so old, he'd be in WWE. I loved I loved his entrance.

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I loved his entrance. Like 42 or something. Um, what's the guy, Don Cal Don Callis? Don Callis was bragging about his painting.

SPEAKER_01:

Don Callis in WWE, right?

SPEAKER_00:

He was in ECW.

SPEAKER_01:

He might have been in WWF.

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But he was in ECW for sure. Yeah. Um, but he was bragging about he was been painting for seven days and seven nights. This new time, this new picture for you know how he he does that shit. He's like, roll out my picture, roll it out. Orange Cassidy. And then when they rolled it out, um, and they unveiled it. Orange Cassidy was standing in the frame. Yeah, he was standing in the frame, and the music just kicked, and he just went, That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01:

And his hands in his pockets, yeah. He's awesome.

SPEAKER_02:

I love when they tagged him in when they were beating, they were like, one, two, three, punching that dude.

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Yeah.

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And they tagged him, and he got up there and was like, Woo, punched once and tagged somebody else.

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He's fun to watch. Like, as far as just wrestling goes. That's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_02:

That's the thing. Wrestling needs to be fun.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and I agree, but everybody's it's also like it's kind of subjective what's fun to you and what's fun to me. Yeah, it's always a different opinion. Who likes death? Like, because you know, what's fun to me in wrestling and what's fun to Jim Cornette are two different things. Because I because I like death matches. I don't I don't I I want to see I want to see people go through 12 tables. Jim Cornette does not. Jim Cornett wants to see Steven Regal versus Steven Regal.

SPEAKER_00:

But Jim Cornett also wrote a paycheck to New Jack at once, too. Which is so I'm confused.

SPEAKER_02:

Are you talking about the real Jim Cornette or Wayne?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh.

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What?

SPEAKER_02:

Wayne, I miss you. Come home. Come home.

SPEAKER_01:

Wayne, we miss you. Uh Work or Shoot. Wayne quit this podcast.

SPEAKER_02:

No, he did not. He'll be back. He's writing an article with Jim Cornett.

SPEAKER_01:

He's he's rating things. Him and Meltzer have been working together. Meltzer!

SPEAKER_00:

He's stuck in a Wendy's drive-thru.

SPEAKER_01:

Clavo, you got anything else, buddy? You got you got left on your worker shoot? You got one more thing you want to say? Well, I got a little bit more. Say it. Do it. Is Ellie not getting a push? No. No. Enough said. Go next thing. Um's been getting a push for four years and they've never done anything with him. I don't think it's gonna happen now. Let's do some indie talk.

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Uh-oh. Uh-oh. I love that. Lives for it.

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You ready for this promotion? Do it. Hold on, you gotta give me a second here. Can't do it, man.

SPEAKER_00:

Time's gonna be up. Um three. Two.

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Break the ball sta! Kentucky Championship Wrestling. I can't wait for that.

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Me. Neither.

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Virgin Kentucky. October 4th. The best Halloween party in Kentucky. I got uh some people that's gonna be there. Um Brutal Bob Evans. Um Bertho. It's your boy Gen Z. It's your boy Gen Z. Uh Sean Cruz, Luis Cortez, um, Jeff Paul. Jeff Paul? Yeah, that's that uh dude that did the suicide dives.

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Jeff Cobb's brother.

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Adam Newsom.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah, Adam, yeah. Adam's another.

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Toby Carmichael. And Rick Morton's boy.

SPEAKER_00:

There's that other there's that uh Dangerous Nate dude coming too.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah, Dangerous Nate. Oh yeah.

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I forgot his name and his very lady of a where's he at?

SPEAKER_01:

Nice lady of a woman. Yes. Nice lady. Oh, he's a nice lady. Uh the chainsaw guy. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Is he gonna be there? Yeah, he's gonna be there. Yeah, I love that guy. Um there's also like there's uh October um yeah, October 5th. I was trying to see too when the show is in Jenkins. 16th, I think. Right, the 16th. That's what I thought. It's Halloween Havoc. Halloween Havoc in Jenkins. Uh Jenkins, Kentucky, at the the gym. I'm trying to find the card. There was there's a pretty good card. There was a bunch of stuff going on on it. But Kentucky Championship Wrestling, Last Rights, October 4th. Yeah. The baddest Halloween party in Kentucky. Very exciting. I can't wait to go to that. That's gonna be so fun. We we love it over there. Their production value is so high. The biggest Halloween party in Kentucky. Their production value is so high. And it was awesome too.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah. But I hope the ropes are tighter.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I thought everybody was gonna fall over that. I'm just gonna be real with you. I definitely thought people were gonna fall over the side of the road. What's Ricky Morton's boy's name?

SPEAKER_00:

Carrie. Carrie. They got the tag match against Sean Cruise, but I did see it's in a steel cage. But I saw Ricky's not able to make it now. So Carrie's. I guess that should just add to the storyline. I don't know if it's been announced who carries. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01:

So Carrie, oh, it's probably gonna be uh Carry and Cross. I don't know. Carry and Morton. It could be Carry and Cross. There's a few dudes though that he can tag with.

SPEAKER_00:

Well he he's he's NWA tag champion. The goose is loose. Well he could go, you know, get his partner from NWA. I don't know who it is. Sean Cruiser.

SPEAKER_01:

And Luis Torres, their name is Beauty and the Best. Yeah. That's nice. That's really nice. I like that. They was really good. Yeah. Um I'm excited about that show. I'm excited about the AW show. Uh I mean the AMW show. We got we got a few shows come up. October, November, December should be fun for us for indie wrestling. Oh, hell yeah. We should have a good time.

SPEAKER_02:

October, November, December probably won't be fun for us for regular for real weather, yeah, for this level.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Corporation. So we'll catch indie shows and have more fun.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I won't worry about that. And we'll have plenty more plenty more worker shoot indie show info from you. Claybo, you got anything else? I ain't got nothing. Yeah. Wes.

SPEAKER_02:

Take your vitamins, listen to your kid kids. Good take them to wrestling shows.

SPEAKER_01:

Just take them to wrestling shows, baby. Got anything, Noah?

SPEAKER_02:

My wrestling's good.

SPEAKER_01:

Ring the damn bell.