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Work Or Shoot?: A Wrestling Podcast
Honkey Tonks and Title Shots: An Indie Wrestling Ringside Christmas
We turn a Christmas special into a full indie road report from Knoxville to KCW, break down a classic Flair vs Kerry match, and dive into worker-or-shoot calls on AAA, NXT, and AEW. A fierce take on Gunther’s heat and a poetic look at Cena’s goodbye wrap the show.
• Cotton Eyed Joe setup and ringside chaos
• Scramble spillover and broken chairs moment
• Country Gents table match finish and fan antics
• Carson Drake vs Keri mechanical bull spot and pacing
• KCW Golden Ticket perks and fan-first moves
• KCW card highlights, merch, and big-and-tall sizes
• Classic analysis of Kerry Von Erich vs Ric Flair
• Worker-or-shoot on Vikingo heel turn and NXT botch
• AEW title choices, Hangman, Joe, and MJF implications
• Gunther’s nuclear heat and Cena’s poetic loss
• Why indie shows beat TV for connection and value
• Upcoming indie dates and our front row plans
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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, showing color in T4 Productions proudly brings to you the greatest wrestling podcast in the world. The Beast from the Southeast, Noah, the Colossus of Chaos, Klaybo, Wickedy Wild, Wild West. And I'm Heavy D, the Work or Shoot Podcast. And if you don't like that, we got two words for you. Thank you. Welcome back. What's up, guys? What's up, guys? This is our Christmas spectacular. Do I have jingle bells? I don't think I'm that's like that's like a jingle bells. That's jingle my bell. Jingle the bell. It's appropriate. Yeah. Um, it's our Christmas episode.
SPEAKER_01:We lied about the last episode saying it was the last.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah. We're back. Surprise. But to be fair, we had some stuff that we done that rocked that we got to talk about. Clay throwing up the bull, the the bull's head ranch horn for AJ who AJ Casana. Shout out AJ.
SPEAKER_01:Bullhead brute.
SPEAKER_00:K C White Lightning. The Country Gents. Um, we came back from a wrestling show in Knoxville, Tennessee. Two of them, yeah, I forgot. We've been to two season. We watch a lot of wrestling.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know how you guys are still standing right now. Of course, you know, I would be there with you if I could have been. Uh things happened. Kids were sick. He was there in spirit. I appreciate that. Y'all were sending videos. I was talking to y'all, but yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Claybo's over there crying. He was supposed to go.
SPEAKER_01:Claybo was there in spirit as well.
SPEAKER_02:Clay's just got to be of age.
SPEAKER_00:No, you could have got in. I could have went. Yeah, it was not. Yeah, you I mean, you're tall enough. You could have ordered a beer, too. Just make sure. Yeah, that's true. Would have stamped your hand. Uh uh to start. The bouncer was kind of intimidating.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Scary dude. Could have been a wrestler.
SPEAKER_01:Sick hat, though.
SPEAKER_00:Sick hat.
SPEAKER_01:Motorboating hat.
SPEAKER_00:Motorbone, it said. Oh, nice, nice. Um, but yeah, that was Cotton Eye Joe. Shout out Cotton Eye Joe in Knoxville. It's a honky tonk. Noah's uh neck of the woods. Absolutely. Really his jam, exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Wait, wait, wait. I have one question. It was a honky tonk. Yeah, baby. Did you wear your shit kickers?
SPEAKER_01:Bro, come on. I wore my snake skins. Oh baby. Talked about them. I wore the shit kickin'est of them all.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah, he talked about boots with pro wrestlers. He talked about his his shit kicker cowboy boots.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Those beautiful, actually.
SPEAKER_01:Those only come out for special occasion.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I seen there wasn't no barricades. No, man. So um the setup was like you walk in the door and it's and it's, you know, it's you can't leave the the venue after you go in. So you you walk in the door, and the bar is over to your right, and like the pool tables and a bunch of tables and stuff are over to your right, and the dance floor is where the ring was, and then the dance floor has like a rail around it where people sit on the rail, like lean on the rail and watch people dance. And so there's a lot of people on that, but the ring side, we have reserved seats. Oh, I meant to get that picture from I sent to AJ that AJ reserved our seats, perfect seats, in the aisle.
SPEAKER_01:Right in the corn corner of the technically the ramp. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Technically, technically the corner of the ramp, and it was and it was it was so awesome. It was the best seats ever.
SPEAKER_01:Had the the pre-show was um some I think it was some fellers. I don't know which trainings. I don't know which place, but uh they wrestle out of King Sport.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think they're training.
SPEAKER_01:It's either Net Pro or Innovate Wrestling.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Uh I don't remember the one dude's name, but New Balance is the other guy. Uh I think I think what's his clock, what's his name? Blackwell.
SPEAKER_01:No, Nick Blackburn, I think.
SPEAKER_00:Nick Blackburn, yeah. His logo was NB. Only reason I know his name is because it looked like New Balance, bro. And I was like, I was like, let's go New Balance.
SPEAKER_02:I was like, wait a minute. Who do you find? Nike?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, he fought um Under Armour. Akira Tizawa that uses Under Armour Deonger I don't know. That just explained him pretty good to me. Yeah, pretty much. It's like Akira Tazawa moveset and and but not Japanese. Yeah, not Japanese guys. Everything was Japanese though. He had like Japanese tattoos, his jacket was Japanese.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he was basically Japanese without the Japanese.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was a Japanese dude from Kingsport.
SPEAKER_02:I hear I hear the raspiness in his voice. Is that from the event?
SPEAKER_00:I think it's probably from the event. I swear I think I'm still horse from the event because like it's from Coffin 2, because I've been sick, but what'd you say, Clay? So the country gents were baby face, wasn't they? Yeah, because they're from Knoxville. Oh yeah, they were calm town heroes. Yeah. Because they helped out, um, they helped out uh the thrillbilly. Silas Mason. They helped him out at the end. Silas is larger than life, bro. The NWA champion uh holding the 10 pounds, the 10 pounds of gold in Noah's face. They don't make them like this no more.
SPEAKER_01:God, dude, I'm getting I'm getting chills. Just thinking about it.
SPEAKER_00:But yeah, he's he's huge, Clay. He's I mean, he's he's taller than you, like, like gigantic, dude. You can't believe how big he is.
SPEAKER_02:Like I've I've watched him wrestle a couple times on power. Yeah, like you can you can tell from seeing him there, like when he stands up against like AJ.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Like how big he is.
SPEAKER_00:Have you seen his finisher? Yeah, dude. What is it's it's just a it's just a side slam, right?
SPEAKER_01:Like like like the boss or like the black hole, like abysses.
SPEAKER_00:If you see abysses, dude. Okay, so you pick them from the left side, sling them out in front of you, swing them around to the right side and slam them, right? Oh, okay. Does that make sense? Yeah. That, but he friggin' spins like three times before he drops them. It's called the thrill ride. Because he's a thrillbilly. Yeah, it's oh my gosh, bro. It's so good.
SPEAKER_01:It absolutely kills me. That game, like that is thrillbilly, and everything that comes with it, that is so good. It's so good, dude. It's so good. It's why he's over.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah, it's why he's over. It's funny that you mentioned Abyss because not today. Yesterday we were at the house and I let Lucas because we got we got the TNA channel where they play like Hall of Fame episodes. And he got to watch Perk Angle, like the Perk Angle. You talking about the match when he did the Versus Abyss.
SPEAKER_01:The front flip off the stage?
SPEAKER_02:Versus Abyss, where like he was punching Abyss and nothing was happening, then he went to run away and he did the cartoon run because Abyss grabbed his tights.
SPEAKER_00:Dude, Abyss so underrated. We need uh you know what's funny is we're gonna get Abyss figures now. Vault figs. Hell yeah. Because because ringside started that thing with TA.
SPEAKER_02:Oh no. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Breaking news and nope. Oh no. Breaking news. You sent me a picture. We're getting a hacksaw Jim Duggan figure.
SPEAKER_03:Oh dude, it's an ultimate.
SPEAKER_00:It comes with two two by fours when I'm painted like an American flag. Um, it comes with an American flag that like drapes over his shoulders. It comes with like three different heads when I'm yelling him the thumb up.
SPEAKER_03:God, it's gonna be awesome. That is so sick.
SPEAKER_00:Also, uh trivia question. Clayton, who won the first Royal Rumble ever?
SPEAKER_02:Um, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00:I know I know who it is. Oh, oh we just talked about it. Did you hear us talking? Yeah. You did not. I know you weren't paying attention. I was looking something up on KCW.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, that's that's fair enough.
SPEAKER_00:Axel Jim Duggan.
SPEAKER_02:Axel Jim Duggan.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah. I I promise I knew that. I know you did. Um, so that's we seen the we got the we got a pre-show match. Venue's amazing. No rails, clay right right on front of us. The reason we know there's no rails is because one of the first matches.
SPEAKER_01:No, the first match.
SPEAKER_00:The first match was a scramble, which just means there's like 15 people in the ring. Uh wrestling. Evidently, we weren't sure what a scramble meant.
SPEAKER_01:It was pretty much just a six-man just first pin wins. Pretty much. Yeah. And it was for the number one contender for the Tennessee Stud Championship.
SPEAKER_00:What's the guy's name that landed on us?
SPEAKER_01:Um, I can't remember. I know I can't remember his name. I can't remember. We will end up with the case. Dude had a good look. You know, dude had a good look.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's great. Biker, uh, biker gimmick. Crushed our chairs, bro.
SPEAKER_02:That's hilarious.
SPEAKER_00:It was so awesome. Cheap ass chairs, plastic chairs.
SPEAKER_01:Did you fall back? Oh man. Oh, yeah, no, I hell, I sold it too. I sold the chop and I didn't even get hit. There you go. That's what you're gonna do.
SPEAKER_00:Listen, all right, so the the video, Claude, because the video's first-person view, right? So you can't really see everything that happens, is when he gets through outside the ring and threw into Noah, and he's sitting on Noah's lap, you can hear the chair crack a little bit when he lands on Noah. Yeah. And in their plastic.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like when he sat, you failed it.
SPEAKER_00:Also, want you to know he was also on my lap. He was on both of our laps, right? Just sitting on us. And then when he came out to chop him, him and Noah both flung back and sold the chop. And as soon as that happened, the chair broke, killed the dude behind us. Right?
SPEAKER_01:Noah went if you're listening out there. I hope you're okay.
SPEAKER_00:He's not.
SPEAKER_01:I hope.
SPEAKER_00:Noah went straight to the ground, dude, and then just like popped up. Let's go. They all thought he was they all thought he was hurt. And then 10 minutes later, my chair broke.
SPEAKER_01:He wasn't even trying to literally dusty. He went to reach down to grab something, and the chair just gave.
SPEAKER_00:And I was like, told you it was broke. Sitting there on the ground.
SPEAKER_02:That's great. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_00:So much fun, dude. The next match was uh Kazanna. It was AJ. It was the table match. It was AJ and KC, Country Gents with Joe.
SPEAKER_02:So they had a table match. Like it was full on Kansas.
SPEAKER_00:It was full table match versus troublemakers. Okay. Right? Mm-hmm. Troublemakers are awesome, by the way.
SPEAKER_01:I I thoroughly enjoyed them.
SPEAKER_00:Loved seeing them. Signed us a towel. They so the match finished was awesome. They had put the AJ had put the table up in the corner really early on in the match. It was funny because there was a second, there was a cool little side game where everybody was trying to stop the table from bouncing around off the turnbuckle. It was like AJ fixed it once or twice. KC fixed it once or twice. The ref fixed it. Some random fan fixed it. Joe was fixing it. Joe was fixing it.
SPEAKER_02:If I'm not mistaken, Joe wasn't in his Colonel Sanders. No, no.
SPEAKER_00:He was he was in the polo. Yeah. He was in his uh American Eagles polo. He was work gear, I guess. He was manager. I'm sorry, office manager. Office gear, yeah. Yeah. So funny uh shoot interaction that we had with Joe, which is super cool, was I was at the bar ordering. You were there too? No, like we were at the bar ordering a beer, and Joe walked up and asked for a drink and was like, just put it on my tab, I'll come get back and get it later.
SPEAKER_01:No, the dude was like, uh he said that'd be$2. Yeah. Yeah. And you can you No, you're good. He said that'd be$2. And Joe goes, he goes, Well, put it on my tab. And the bartender goes, Well, I need a card to start the tab. Joe just kind of just stood there just like baffled. He goes, I'm running the damn show. That bartender goes, Well, why didn't you say that? He said, Were you wearing something different earlier? Joe goes, Yeah. He said, Well, that's why I didn't recognize you.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because he's like came in in normal stuff. He didn't know he was him. He was wearing his hat.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Which as he was walking to the bar, he complimented my hat too.
SPEAKER_02:He did and loved his hat. Recognize you guys again, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00:Well, Joe's the one that reserved our seats.
SPEAKER_02:Gotcha. Yeah, that's awesome. That that's so cool.
SPEAKER_00:We were almost plants there because everybody knew us.
SPEAKER_02:Just about.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, just about plants. I mean, that dude knew us when he landed out there.
SPEAKER_02:Plants without being planted, pretty much. I love that you guys got to experience experience that. Uh, I kind of got choked up a little bit there. I'm a little bit upset that I wasn't there. But tomato. Um you're upset he wasn't there? No, I'm upset I didn't go. Nah, he was upset I wasn't there. Um, but you know, it it's cool that they did that because usually like when we go to an AMW show, yeah, uh I'll like if if it's the way we always sit at an AMW show, it's always D, Noah, Clay, me, and then the kids. Yeah. And I'm always like, wherever the kids are, I'm sitting there because I always put my foot on the rail. No matter what, I know what happens because someone always gets thrown at the rail right in front of the kids, and I have to catch that rail because that rail always comes right into them almost.
SPEAKER_00:And Colts' heads on the sides of the height of the rail.
SPEAKER_02:So yeah, I'm always grabbing him and then I put my foot there because that rail scoots back like three feet. And they're I'm like, dude, I I know, but you know, still throw them somewhere else.
SPEAKER_00:You know. Let me tell you the finish of the KC, the the KC and AJ match. They um they set the table up or whatever, and then uh AJ speared one of the troublemakers through the table, I think uh Greer or uh uh what's his last name? The short haired one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it it's it's it's with A. I know that. Yeah, I think it's greer. With all due respect, man, if I lose it.
SPEAKER_00:I think it's clear. We just met you. Um but he speared him through the table, but the ref was knocked out. And so when the ref came to uh he was already up and AJ was like laying there with laying there on the table in case he was laying beside it and he convinced the ref that that he threw AJ through the table. Yeah. And they won the titles, the vacant titles. I don't know why they were vacant. If you know, uh send us a message or message a comment. I really don't know why they're vacant.
SPEAKER_02:AJ just make a video and holler at us.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, please, please actually do that. See if you know him working out today. God, he's so freaking huge.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I want to say this too. I was um looking at some some old videos yesterday, and I came across an old from a couple about three years ago from AMW posted of AJ versus Marty Clay.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah. And I've never seen that.
SPEAKER_01:And uh all I'll say is AJ's put into work from then. I mean, you know, he was you know, he was he was a big boy, you know, but now you know now he's he's got that. He's he's put he's put the brute work in, you know. Happens to the best of us. Hey, listen. Oh, that was the dude. Look, he that was he still looked the gear he was wearing was nice, honestly. It was like camo with orange lettering.
SPEAKER_00:I'm working on him on 2K right now. Clay's collabing with me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, building him on 2K.
SPEAKER_01:He had the crew cut haircut, right? He didn't have the mullet yet. Or was he first started? I think he might have had the mullet. Like the gear looked how it does nowadays, you know. Just it was just, you know, camo and the orange. What and the you know, what the gents we know today.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's cool. I remember seeing a picture of him. I think you sent it to me. He had like yellow and black tights on. No, you found that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You found that yellow and black tights, and he had like a crew crew cut haircut. Yeah. And I was like, that's not AJ Kazan.
SPEAKER_00:I also don't think he was AJ Kazana. I think he introed as like I think he started as something else. I don't think he wanted to, I don't think he was wrestling under Kazanna. Yeah. Um, but then the main event, the next, or the next match was, dude. The match between Um Drake. Carson Drake and Carrie and Carrie. Dude.
SPEAKER_01:That was such a good match. Honestly, man. It was a nice event though, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_00:Nothing independent about there's nothing independent about the Carrie and Carson Drake match. Okay, that match was the realest top level match.
SPEAKER_01:Like it was so good.
SPEAKER_00:Dude, there's this spot where they where Carrie took, it's a real, like, if wrestling's not real, explain this moment. Where Carrie took Carson Drake out to the mechanical bull and put him on the mechanical bull and turned it on. It was super funny because like Carrie couldn't get the mechanical bull working. So he was like pressing the button a bunch, and like Carson Drake was just like laying on the bull. Oh, yeah, I did say that.
SPEAKER_01:Worker had to run over there and turn it on real quick.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, worker was like, oh, let me get this for you. Was it like uh the Randy Ort when he was trying to hit the pyro? Pretty much slamming it.
SPEAKER_00:Pretty much. Yeah, it was it was super awesome though. Uh that match. Carson Drake's one of my favorite workers now. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:He's fantastic.
SPEAKER_00:His mic work.
SPEAKER_01:First, I've I've seen him all over, like all over online and stuff. That was my first time actually watching him.
SPEAKER_00:And he's some My Way in the ring, Frank Sinatra, My Way. It was actually really good. Who's got a voice? He's so good. Like he's so good. And he's huge too. Remember, he's really. Yeah, he's where he's got at least size 17 shoe. Literally.
SPEAKER_01:Gigantic feet. Was it not? Was it Carson after the show that thought I was one of them?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he walked up to you. So we were standing with like AJ and uh I think Dreamweaver, a couple other people. Shout out Dreamweaver, by the way. Shout out to the sick ass sick ass mental health shirt we got from him. But um, he walked up and like like put his hands on like AJ and like wrapped his arm around Noah and went like gave him a look and took his arm off of him and walked back the other way. Because he definitely thought you were that one dude, the dude that broke our chairs. No, no, no. He thought you were um the red-headed guy who's so good. That's married to the Brazilian chair. The one that chopped the dude in my lap. Yeah. Yes, the one that chopped the guy in your lap. That's valid. Okay. It checks out. Show was awesome. It was great. Me and Noah had an incredible time, done some fig hunting, you know, had a great time at the show, hung out with the wrestlers after the show. Actually, closed the place down, got kicked out. Literally escorted out of the room. It's like, thank you guys for coming, but we're closing. I was like, okay, and we're we're with the wrestlers, really, but we weren't. We we hung out in the parking little bit and watched everybody leave. Real creepy like. But we had a great time. It was awesome. Now on to the next Kentucky Championship Wrestling. That's what I want.
SPEAKER_02:That's what I want to hear about.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, Kentucky Championship Wrestling. Uh awesome time. Incredible event. Right.
SPEAKER_01:Solid show. Great show.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Great show. Um met a lot of new people, friends with a lot of people. Uh hippo.
SPEAKER_02:After you guys. Welcome back, hippo. Welcome back hippo. After you guys talk about this, I do have a question about KCW.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Um just letting you guys know.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. We also um really got close with a couple guys there. I'm talking to him. Sean Cruz. Shout out Sean Cruz. He's awesome, one of the best talents. I've I I love watching him wrestle.
SPEAKER_01:He's awesome. Bertho still's if I can speak. Birto is still coming for that ass, though, Sean. I'm just gonna put that out there, you know. Birto is coming for that ass. I'm just, you know, respect to you, but it's simple as that.
SPEAKER_00:Uh break of the week. I got Jeff Paul to break. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You caught a few guys to break.
SPEAKER_00:Shout out Jeff Paul, dude. Yeah, he's underrated. It seemed like he was working the corner that we were on, like working the stairs corner, whatever. And I was like, I even cracked myself up when he was like, You guys shut up when we were clapping. He's like, shut your mouth. And I was like, the sounds coming from our hands. And he went, That's fair. But yeah, they have a new um you are you gonna ounce the golden ticket thing? Yeah, so the KCW Golden Ticket, they just came out with it. Um there's only 40 golden tickets available per show. Um, you can only purchase online, and the golden ticket includes guaranteed reserved ringside seats, a free signed event poster, one free entree of your choice on your session. And one free drink. So I think it's really awesome.
SPEAKER_02:Hideous. It's not a bad price. That's what I was getting ready to ask you guys about. It was like, hey, can you relap and say about that? But um, you know, I was worried about that because it looked like a a co a good deal. Um price is great on it. I think it's awesome. I think that's what needs to be done.
SPEAKER_01:And honestly, it's still as fresh as they are. I it's it's I love seeing them already, you know. Yeah, and treating the fans, you know, how fans should be treated.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly, you know, exactly. And you know, let's let's hope, you know, with them saying it's 40 guaranteed, you know, that means that they're not gonna outsell the numbers. Yeah, and they can, as in that they're popular enough, they're going to get the numbers. I'm just saying, like, hey, they're not gonna be in that situation where they oversell the front row. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Other people do.
SPEAKER_00:Everybody oversells front row all the time. It's crazy. Yeah. Really? Yeah, it's insane how much they oversell the front row.
SPEAKER_01:Well, we'll we usually get there early, and then once it starts filling in, it's chairs, we need more chairs, chairs.
SPEAKER_00:Or they're telling us to scoot in. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm not scooting in ever. I'm not scooting in. I'm sitting where I want to. I love when they say to scoot in. There's a promotion that says scooting all the time. And every time they say scoot in, every time they say scooty in, we're like, nah, we're good, actually. Got here early to get these seats. Think we're gonna stay here. I don't worry about it. Yeah, hey, um, shout out to Ref that took the choke slam from uh Freya the Snow.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that was such a solid choke slam too.
SPEAKER_00:Way up there.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. That is so killer. I can't wait. She's cool. What's the next show? February 7th. February 7th. I will be there. Um, Luke and Coat have already like already there. Luke Luke literally has mentioned KCW at least 27 times.
SPEAKER_00:Well, hey, baby, worker shoot will be there front row. Yeah. Right. We'll be there front row. We'll definitely have audio. We might have some video. I mean, we're definitely gonna have some video. We're gonna try to record as much of the show as we can. But you know, show and color, your biggest source for indie wrestling, will be front row at the show.
SPEAKER_02:I was supporting We're always gonna be. I was supporting those guys Friday when I went to work, had the uh the KCW shirt on.
SPEAKER_00:Bro, I don't KCW gear is just is is fantastic.
SPEAKER_01:It really is, and it's so simple too.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's such a pretty shirt. Well, and it's like comparatively, the AMW gear, that that, that um, that American uh Appalachian Mountain Wrestling shirt, the one that's just all black and just has the circle, the the two good guys grappling, that shirt rocks. Yeah, I love beautiful shirt. Every time every time I see one of their merch guys, I'm like, I love to have one of them shirts. Uh and I'd like to have the new South shirt too, because I like the New South shirt. Yeah, those would be helpful. I watched the New South stuff the other day for the first time, and I liked a lot of the new South stuff. Really? I hadn't never watched their stuff. I haven't either. I need to, though.
SPEAKER_02:I think that before they combined them. I think that's what AJ was going to after that cotton eye Joe um. Was New South the New South.
SPEAKER_00:Um He was going to NWA South.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, no, no, no, NWA South, sorry. Yeah, it's NWA South. Um they still rule like territories. I do love though every time we asked for one of those shirts, we we got a different name. Everybody, they're like, you gotta go talk to Danny over there.
SPEAKER_00:Because no talk to nobody has any idea.
SPEAKER_02:And I'm like, huh? Nobody has any idea. Nobody knows what's going on.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. But you know, we got we got some of those shows coming up too, so hopefully they can uh I mean, look, man, we're reviewing unbiased, reviewing independent shows. Okay. There's some venues, some promotions that um as fans we've been treated better at than other ones. Uh I'm happy with every indie promotion around here. But dude, I mean, straight up, there's some promotions that are better than other promotions, and that's the way it is. That's life. In my opinion, I think Kentucky Championship Wrestling is the one to catch right now.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Because everything they're doing is great. Hey, fun fact today, my little girl practiced volleyball in that gym today. Oh, in Vergie? In Vergie. Really? That's cool. In that gym, yeah, they were using that. They were using that to practice. I was like, I was like, I should have gone. I was like, I set everything up. I didn't work on the projectors while I was there. You should have. You could have. Yeah, I know, no joke. I didn't work on the projectors for them. But I meant to tell I meant to tell Jeremy that was my little girl's practicing over there, and she's gonna practice over there uh once a week or twice a month, something like that, maybe. But I'm gonna go with her next time. And hopefully they'll be over there at the same time. But yeah, we're gonna do our best, not do our best. Some representatives of some representative of the worker shoot podcast will be at every show. At every show. We're sending somebody no matter what. There's no more, we're not going because everybody's not going. We decided even if it's just me. Well, even if it is, I mean, even if it's like at Jenkins or Neon and it's just you can go to it, once somebody needs to go. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? We need to send, we need to send somebody because we need to have a correspondent there to be able to come back and you know say what happened. Because I, if we're gonna review indie shows and review and if we're gonna review all these indie shows and we're gonna review all these wrestlers and shout at everybody we can and try to make indie wrestling as great as we can, we need to be there. We need to be there. You know, and we're learning a lot of names of wrestlers, getting a lot of their names out there. Honestly, my goal at this point is to promote indie wrestling and get names out there for people. And oh god, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's that's the goal. That's all.
SPEAKER_00:That's the end goal. Just get people over. Yeah. I'm here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, and that's TED Talk with D. Heyman. Thanks. Thanks. That's what we do.
SPEAKER_00:And um Wes at the show during the Kenny, the goose dude. Yeah. During his match, there was a dude in a mask that came out. He was wearing a full-on gas mask.
SPEAKER_01:His name is it's like Joseph or or Joseph or Joseph Von Schmidt.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I'm something like that. I'm so confused with him, but he was cool. He was just mysterious with no announcers. You don't know what the f's going on.
SPEAKER_01:True. Which they did, you know, they did show like a posted like a vignette, you know, pr before the show. You know, like the day or yeah, they did. They posted it was, you know, something about like he's coming.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, my fault. So then I know that. I'm always gonna say when I hear gas mask, I just think of Gassy Boy rest in peace haddocks. Rest in peace. He loved playing caustic, bro. Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_00:Gassy bought a couple shirts. What'd you get? Nice shirt shirts. Chase Bennett, all kinds of shirts. Uh Corey Sparks. Yeah, Chase Bennett and Corey Sparks, both of their like they're in that tag team together, and it's yeah, their gear is awesome for it. Uh what's his what's his uh nickname? Corey's? No, Chase. Uh his they're both awesome. Yeah, they're both awesome. The team, the shooter society. Shooter society, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they got. And uh we brought we bought the uh Champions for Charity shirt. Dude, I got West one of the Champions for Charity shirt. That's right. It's beautiful shirt. Rocks.
SPEAKER_01:But listen, are you gonna say you gonna say it?
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah. And then Sean Cruz has a mental health shirt as well. Uh I'm enough shirt. His his whole, he's like promoting a lot of his product as I'm enough on it. And he's got some really cool red hats that just say I'm enough with the with the heart line on them.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But yeah, those shirts and shout out fat guys. Um, he had fat guy size. So I was like, you don't have my size anyway. He was like, try me. He's he had tall too, he's got tall shirts. Yeah, I was like, all right, let's go. Yeah, he was like, I got three, four, five, what you want?
SPEAKER_01:I was like, oh shit. So see, that's the thing. If if Sean didn't have a problem with Berto, he'd be a stand-up guy. Yeah, I know. I mean, he's a hell of a guy. He just he likes to, you know, he screws with the man's best friend.
SPEAKER_00:He's gonna come on the podcast, he's gonna talk about talk about hippo and talk about everything going on. So he's gonna come on the podcast and get rid of that. I'm gonna go over the whole show like in like two minutes, right here. Okay. Show comes start. Show starts off with Berto addressing the fans. Uh Sean Cruz comes out because Berto's talking a lot of crap. And uh he he just wants hippo and for it to be over. And Sean Cruz is like, No, you ain't getting your match. Uh or first he's like, I'll give you your match right now, and then they ring the bell, he walks out, loses by count out. Jonathan Hampton comes out. Yeah, I forget what happened. Jonathan Hampton comes out, he's like, Who do you think you are? You don't run the place, and they have their match as the main event, and then after that, uh we got Jeff Paul versus Lifeguard Ross. What a match that was. That really I love Lifeguard Ross, he's awesome. Come on the show. And then I think we had the goose. The goose, the goose, the goose is on the loose. Shout out Kenny Urban. Uh send him that, I sent him that honk video today. The Gary VC video. I was just, I I caught it again. I showed it to my sister, and I was like, I gotta send this to Kenny. I didn't send it to him another day. He laugh reacted. Goose versus um who'd he face?
SPEAKER_02:Gassy Boy.
SPEAKER_00:No, he came out after the match. Um, or DQ. Oh no, because he got uh squashed.
SPEAKER_01:Um you got the pictures. Was it it wasn't Corey? No, no, it wasn't no no, Cory fought. Corey fought, hold on.
SPEAKER_00:Hold on, I got okay, so had Nixon Corey Sparks. I got pictures of that. Um Vikingo and Cruz. Oh yeah, uh not Vikingo, Jesus. Um sorry, I was thinking about my next segment. Birdot took a chair shot. I forgot Birto took a chair shot. Um and then I got some really good pictures of Freya, right? But I'm trying to figure out this. Oh yeah, he was wrestling um uh this guy. Frig, what is this guy's name? When it was in that red and black, remember? Oh yeah. We hadn't seen him before then we had Freya the Slaya versus uh Shauna Reed.
SPEAKER_01:Shauna Reed. Did you see that Shauna is got busted ribs and and stuff? No, from that. She's out. Yeah, Casey KCW posted like it's I guess I guess it's like a blog of those or something. Yeah, you know, about the show. And on it, that's it. Shauna, Shauna Reed, she's out.
SPEAKER_02:That's funny, man. Yeah. Was it is one of those It's awful. One of those two from OVW. Yeah, Freya is. Yeah, I've got to be a little bit of a shit.
SPEAKER_00:She rocked too. She was great. She's big, man. She's tall.
SPEAKER_01:I've seen her at I I think I've seen her at both OVW shows I've been to, and you know, great stuff from there. And then when I saw she was excited or announced for KCW, you know, I thought that was that was just great. That was great for the great for the company for sure.
SPEAKER_00:Then we had Corey Sparks versus Adam Newsom. Yeah. Newsom's entrance is always fire.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, God.
SPEAKER_00:He he's uh Corey won that. Roll with nerdy, yeah. And then Rolling with Legs on the Rope, I think. Then we had main event, Sean Cruz versus Berto. Bertho gets the win, gets back hippo. Sean Cruz is all mad. Birto got the win by DQ, though, right? Huh? I thought Birto got the Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Chair trick.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he did it, Eddie. When I meet Berto, I'm gonna have to tell him that we have a robot vacuum vacuum named Birdo at the house. You need to tell him and he fights with Drake. So anytime, like, because Drake hates anything that moves. So Drake's my dog. He's a blue healer, he's an asshole. You need a name, Sean. Yeah. And uh every time he tries to vacuum, Drake bites it and makes it turn around.
SPEAKER_00:And every time I go, damn, Birdo, we get you a little hippo to put on top of it. We need to take a picture of it. Yeah, yeah. We have we have one. Gabby has it.
SPEAKER_02:But yeah, that's that's it, that's the ongoing feud at the house right now. Is I don't know, I don't know when they're gonna make up, but the main event hasn't happened yet. They're probably on their second match right now. Birdo and Drake is the new age rock in Austin.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That's all I got, boys. That's all you got. That's all I got for KCW.
SPEAKER_02:For KCW. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I mean, okay, the KCW show was great. I mean, Jeremy and Jeremy and Jonathan were awesome. I love Jeremy and Jonathan. They were awesome to us. Great guys. Hopefully we're gonna get their I'm helping with their projectors and get those going and shit. But they yeah, they're awesome dudes. Great show. Um the ring announcers, ring announcers, great, riffs were good. Awesome show. Loved it. She's just she's so good. She's so good, bro. And she loves it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I was gonna say, you can tell she she enjoys what she does. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Shout out her. She's very good. Yeah, shout out her. We'll learn her name. I don't know her name. We'll learn it. Yeah, we'll learn her name. Uh so I watched something interesting today. It was funny because I was just watching, like going through old matches and watching stuff. And I watched Carrie Von Erick versus Rick Flyer for the NWA World Championship. What year? In Texas Stadium. I I don't know what year that was.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I mean, I'm sorry, like decades, alright. I don't want it to be a few years.
SPEAKER_00:No, I think it's like eight eighty. I mean, I don't I don't know what year it was. I don't know what year it was, 84.
SPEAKER_02:Like early 80s. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Because it was in Texas Stadium, it was NWA, it was WCCW. Yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah, WCCW NWA title. Um and I wrote down just a few notes that were funny. Uh worker shoot, nobody knew about Carrie's fake leg. I watched that match thinking, I watched that match like Dude.
SPEAKER_02:Did you know that like literally up until he retired?
unknown:No one.
SPEAKER_02:He never took his boots off. He he only took his boots off like and I'm gonna say a handful of times in front of anybody, and he had to be like so close to you that he didn't care to, and it was only in the most How did he wrestle like that, dude?
SPEAKER_00:That's so crazy because he moved so good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he moved so good that was so insane. But speaking of, have you watched the movie? Oh yeah, oh yeah, Cry Like a Baby.
SPEAKER_00:So that movie's great. Clay's not seen it. I'm like, yeah, you Ironclaw? Oh, dude. Okay, so something else about Ironclaw. Finishers were so protected then, because the only the only finisher that got put on was the Ironclaw that got put on once.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And and it about knocked Flayer out, but he but he rolled out of the but he fell out of the ring or whatever and he couldn't hold on. So it's like protectors were so finished, or finishers were so protected. Rick Flair didn't even put him in the figure four. Not once. There were so many, there were so few false finishes. There were very few false finishes at all. Right. And so there was very few, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:There was it the I'm sorry, I'm I'm trying to find the right word to say. It was almost like I mean it's golden, golden age wrestling. Yeah. It's perfect for it. Um that's how it was. That's how it should still be in some ways. Yeah. I'm not gonna say anything. No, no, no, it's gonna be in our next segment in a minute. But like the false finished crap, like that that was something that was really I had that wrote down too.
SPEAKER_00:Uh said, so Carrie was wearing the sick ring jacket that's in memory of David. I forget about that, and it's got the rose on it. Yeah. Uh Rick was Rick is wearing that Chase Variant blue. Oh. The Chase Variant blue jacket. Yeah. Um Carrie was so over in Texas. Holy crap, dude. Carrie was so over in that match that any other state, Rick would have won, but no way he could win there. Right. Because it was it was nuts how over Carrie was, though.
SPEAKER_02:And and you gotta remember too, he he did have that one leg no one knew about. Yeah. Um and uh out of all the brothers, out of all the brothers, man, it it was really, I'll be honest, it was really like if you compared him to all the other brothers, even when in his later years of wrestling, bro looked like he was on a completely different level body was a good thing. Oh, dude, he was so freaked. Oh god, yeah, dude was like if and and I'm not trying to compare him to anyone, but if you put him up side by side with Ultimate Warrior when he was in his prime, you wouldn't be able to tell them apart if he had a freak huge.
SPEAKER_01:You threw paint on Carrie and you you got two ultimates. Yeah, you got two warriors.
SPEAKER_00:That's what I was I mean, it's crazy. Yeah, and he like he was huge. So here's what I wrote 50,000 fans, huge stadium. K Fake was alive, wrestling was real to everyone, and the ref were red. Uh Rick had beautiful blonde hair, Carrie had a secret fake foot, and Flair retains anywhere but Texas. There were very few false finishes. Flair made Carrie look like a wrestling god, but losing the most prestigious title in wrestling in a backslide pin can't be your own booking. That's what I had wrote. Right. And I was like, if we knew anything about Flair, there's no way Flair would have booked himself to lose in a backslide pin, I don't think. No. Like maybe, maybe because he didn't want to tap to a finisher. So, I mean, like that could happen that not tapping out would have mattered because didn't he win the because Harley won the title pretty quickly after that, right? I don't think it was long after that. Harley Harley Race won the title. It wasn't for long now. Yeah, okay. I'm pretty sure Harley. And then Harley Race kept it for like two years, four years.
SPEAKER_02:I will argue with this though. Um, one thing about that is maybe he did agree to it because at that time it wasn't yeah, it wasn't the Ric Flair we all knew from WCW. This was Ric Flair was not Rick that Ric Flair yet.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, he had beautiful, beautiful blonde locks.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but I'm just saying he wasn't that, you know, he wasn't the Ric Flair persona. Pretty impressive, though. He was nature boy. Yeah, he's nature boy, but he wasn't he wasn't fully become yeah, yeah. He he wasn't the one that we all know and remember.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, that's I just really kind of wanted to recap this classic match I watched today. I kind of just want to talk about it with you guys because I I'm making myself watch more wrestling because I don't know enough about vintage wrestling as a wrestling fan, and it's the one thing I need to know more about. Right, because I have you to remember, I have you to remember when I wasn't watching wrestling, right? So you get to catch like the 2012 through 2020 wrestling for me.
SPEAKER_01:And honestly, I even got you through the ruthless aggression for most for the most part.
SPEAKER_00:But I didn't watch I didn't watch almost any of it.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't either. That was before I was even a fan.
SPEAKER_00:But I can tell you everything in attitude, okay? And I can tell you everything before attitude as well. Like wars. I can tell you everything wars.
SPEAKER_01:Honestly, that's the great thing about the group is every person's from a different era.
SPEAKER_00:And Clay Norse knows more about modern shit than any of us. Exactly. Right? We just don't have a we don't have a legacy guy, so I'm gonna try to be a legacy guy.
SPEAKER_02:No, that's that's great.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because I don't have a legacy.
SPEAKER_02:And and I try to do that with my kids all the time, is let them watch classic matches. And I'm not saying classical, like legacy. I'm talking about like I mean, they they know I sent D a text the other day.
SPEAKER_00:Well, their favorite wrestlers, Jay Uso and Kevin Rhodes, not but I sent actually it's Jeff Hardy. Well, I know, but you know what I mean. Like, but even Jeff Hardy's not like a grappler.
SPEAKER_02:But uh I I said I I sent him a text, I think it was yesterday. I was like, I you know you're doing something right when Kevin Nash is on TV, classic Kevin Nash, and it's he's still Nash, he's in the Nash persona, and your kid walks by and goes, What's Diesel doing on TV? Yeah, doesn't know him as Nash, knows him as Diesel because I've been letting him watch Diesel.
SPEAKER_00:Also make him watch him watch Nash, WCW. It was good. He was, but like Nash versus the Giant, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But he was seeing like TNA Nash. The good Nash versus Giant, not the yeah, and he was like off the monetary. I was like, you know who that is? He's like, yeah, that's the diesel dude in there. I was like, what? He's like, yeah, dad. Remember we watched this match there and I was like, I love you.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:So let's just roll on. Are we going to talk about WWE now? Super Christmas show. We got plenty of time left. Super show. Okay, so we're talking about some WB stuff. Let me touch on something before we touch on anything else. It's more of a recent thing to happen, but it's something that I really liked, and it's a worker shoot. I think we have another worker shoot wrote down, but the worker shoot that I'm going to say is worker shoot uh heo El Vikingo had to turn heel because of the heat on him from everyone hating that they put the title on him because of Alberto de Rio. Shoot. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, yeah. I'd say shoot.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, shoot. And in case you're wondering, Vikingo turned heel, uh OMS came out. I think his move might be the last ride now, which is smart. That's a genius move. Give him that. Undertaker probably has something to do with that. OMOS or yeah, that was nice. That was a beautiful last ride. I was like, I was like, oh, that should just be his move. You're 10 feet in the air.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Like you're gonna die. Yeah, it's I actually think people won't take it because they're gonna be so high up. He's taller than Nash. Oh, by yeah, he's taller than Ash. You're gonna die.
SPEAKER_02:He that last rides you're gonna die. I mean, even if you suck at selling, you're gonna feel it and it's gonna look real because it is real.
SPEAKER_00:Spike Dudley be like, nah. Just couldn't. Um, but but yeah, that that feels like the heat that he has had since they gave him just the title randomly, because the fans actually don't hate Del Rio some reason. I guess I don't know why, but it's because they're super weird. We did the four. It's because it's because once he became the underdog, like WWE shitting on him, then he became the good guy. It's because of that. It's because turned him baby. Dude's still a piece of shit. Yeah, he is. He is, but triple A So was OJ, but you draft him.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. No, no, believe it or not. Oh he lying. That's only because I never really did played much on that, on those end of the Matting games.
SPEAKER_02:Well, on the other side of the coin, it's really the AAA fans are completely different than WWE fans. Um Last Night show rocked. Honestly, they they hate they love WWE wrestlers. Oh, okay. They love the characters, they hate the idea of corporation WWE.
SPEAKER_00:They hate corporation. I would literally bring back corporation faction just to compete in triple A because it would be so over. Yeah. Because they hate it, would just be a bunch of white dudes.
SPEAKER_02:That's why they hate Vikingo. They hate Vikingo because Vikingo was picked by WWE to be the face of Triple A and no one wanted it, and they seen him as a company man.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_02:Turn him heel was good, though.
SPEAKER_00:He's gonna be a good heel.
SPEAKER_02:No, he's a good heel.
SPEAKER_00:Evidently, he was a heel in something else. He was he was he was he worked heel as something.
SPEAKER_02:But that's a smart move. And that that goes back to what's his face? Turning baby dog. It's because WWE was shitting on him. They're saying, oh, WWE hates him, then we're going to go.
SPEAKER_00:We must like him, right? The friend of my friend of my enemy of my enemy is my friend is my enemy. Something like that. Oh, high five. You guys are weird. That was crazy. You guys are whoa, wow. Whoa, wow, whoa. What? Um, okay. Clay, what's the next work or shoot? Work or shoot. NXT Women's North American Championship botch.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, shoot. Shoot all the hell. Shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot. Shot the place up.
SPEAKER_00:What do you think, Liz? You think it's at work? You gonna come on? You gonna go to the grain? No, you know better, huh? Don't you? What? So I guess what I'm trying to say is was it supposed to happen? That's what worker shoot means. Oh yeah. You don't have to explain it. Oh yeah. You don't have to explain it. We get it.
SPEAKER_01:God love it.
SPEAKER_00:Go at it, Wes. I guess what I'm saying is, did it happen or not? Real or not?
SPEAKER_02:So I think it was a botch, but at the same time, what a lot of people don't know is um NXT is pre-recorded. They pre-recorded the night before. It's not actually live. So like it happening in the city. But it's live to crowd. It's live. It's live to that crowd.
SPEAKER_00:It's live to tape. Yeah, it's live to tape. Live to tape is a turn is the right term.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I guess they couldn't swerve it. Yeah. But I didn't think they could have.
SPEAKER_00:They've done it before.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean they didn't think to do it that fast then.
SPEAKER_00:Um if it was covered air, they would have done everything.
SPEAKER_02:So tell me about it. The reason I think it is a shoot is because they had to change a bunch of rules.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they changed, literally changed the like.
SPEAKER_01:They had like I I did read like they had like everything planned out. I don't know how long ago. Through Christmas.
SPEAKER_02:Like pre-recorded like vignettes and everything. Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. Oh no, no, no. You're fine. I was just saying they had pre-recorded all these vignettes of uh Mariah May um through Christmas, through the new year, uh, and stuff, and now they're like, we gotta erase all this.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I guess my fault was, and you know, you can call me old-fashioned, but why not just book them on the next Tuesday, uh her to lose it back to her?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, yeah, because I mean, and they never stick to it, but you know, the losing champion is always gonna come back. I deserve my rematch. Yeah, I know. You know, that that'll fix it right there. But who knows? Unless you're Drew McIntyre.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, Thea's over. Yeah, Clay's take. Do you think it's shoot for sure, Clay? Yeah, I think it's a shoot. But you had another take on it. Like originally, you were like, it could be a work. They could just keep it on her. Yeah. Because Clay said she's over. Clay knows more about NXT than I do. He said she's over NXT. Because she's with Joe Hendry.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, I I think when I I think when I watched the clip, like crowd went crazy whenever the botch happened, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Yeah. They were shocked. Everybody was shocked.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'd say that more.
SPEAKER_00:The rant went like this. Oh god. And like looked around a second, like maybe I so personally, and you know what's funny is we met a referee this weekend and talked to him a little bit, and really like uh I followed him on socials and stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Shout out Jared Fritz.
SPEAKER_00:Shout out Jared Fritz. Got a signpost.
SPEAKER_01:Um see Kenja the Kazanas. I've been wondering that.
SPEAKER_00:We're wondering that. I'm assuming he is. Like I'm assuming he's uh I'm assuming he's either their cousin or brother. Like, because he was cool with Joe. Like he talked to Joe. So either way, he's he was cool, and I'd like to ask him what he would do in that scenario if he would finish that count. Knowing the finish was supposed to be personally, here's what I think. Personally, I think the finish was supposed to be Mariah was supposed to, or no, it's not Mariah, what's her name? Blake Monroe. Blake Monroe.
SPEAKER_02:Wow, she's always gonna be Mariah.
SPEAKER_00:Was supposed to roll her own up. I think I think that was supposed to be a coffin drop reversed into a cradle pin. You know what I mean? Like I think she was gonna roll her own over and pin her. And I think that was supposed to be the finish. And I think the ref knew that was supposed to be the finish. So he just seen that somebody was pinned and gave the three count. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:Which and I did, you know, read too. You know, they I guess they tell refs now, you know, no matter what. Count it, baby. You know, and I'm glad they do. You know, you know why? Because a priest. Yeah, because a priest. Uh the Damien Priest botch. I must have missed that. Priest was knocked out.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Priest was knocked out during a heavyweight championship. Yeah, during the yeah. With Seth, and he was supposed to he was supposed to kick out and the ref counter one, two, three, but then he said it didn't count. Okay, I think it was already that age.
SPEAKER_00:It was two, and we were all like, he definitely counted a three.
SPEAKER_02:And then even triple H was like, it looked like three, didn't it?
SPEAKER_00:It looked like three to me. So what I seen was her coffin drop she did. Mm-hmm. Um it knocked the breath out of the way. Yeah, that's yeah. And it she didn't have time to have time to recover from it, and she uh Yeah, they were talking about that. Yeah. Yeah, uh I'm sure that's what happened, and like and they're both good wrestlers, and that's a good referee. I mean, look, man, you have that many matches and you don't ever see that happen, like, it's gonna happen. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02:Well, if you follow the figs too, though, you go look, Thea's only got a basic out, and Blake Monroe's got some She's got some coming.
SPEAKER_00:Got some coming. I know this doesn't count, but her Mariah May figure just came out.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, her Mariah May figure came out and then like right before Well, Jazz Wars is dumping all their IP right now.
SPEAKER_00:What in the world? They're all coming out. I bought so many AEW figures in the last like month because holy crap, they're releasing everything.
SPEAKER_02:They're dumping all the IP right now.
SPEAKER_00:It must be, I think they're gonna drop them or they're here's what I think. I think so. This is figure talk. I think they're I think they're gonna start with a new um style. Like I think they're gonna, you know what I mean? Like I think they're gonna go through the change like Mattel did. Like I think they're gonna change everything over. Or Ringside's just gonna pick it all up and ringside's gonna do it all.
SPEAKER_02:I think it it's gonna have to be independent like Ringside because no one knows what's going on with AEW right now. Um I know AEW has a good um investment with Warner Brothers, but Warner Brothers just got by next time.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they're they're I bet cons are like really, really push Broman stuff around because they have to have some sort of deal. They need to be somewhere or or die like or people will just lose. And when I say die, I don't mean financially die because they can support that forever. But once you lose the fans, you really can't get them back. And the problem with AEW currently is because he like I said before, he had his finger on the pulse of the fans for a long time. And I think when he lost that, like I don't get taking the title off page and putting it on Joe. No, go ahead. You know why. You know why. Yeah, I do know why, bro. Work or shoot, Joe don't have uh worker shoot, hangman don't have the title anymore because he spoke up against Ice.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. We know what's up, that's why he don't have the title, right? Conn can say he stands with Hangman all he wants to, but Samoa Joe has the title and Hangman's off TV.
SPEAKER_02:No, you're right.
SPEAKER_00:That's that's real, bro. Like Hangman was over, over. There's no way because me and Clay were picking picking stuff, and and I was like, dude, there is no way Hangman loses this match to Joe. It doesn't make any sense unless they just want to put that title on somebody else because Hangman's too hot. And literally too hot, has too much actual heat. And I was like, if they just want to put the title on somebody and get him off TV, that's the thing to do. And sure as hell they did it. Like, why did they put the title on Joe again? Joe's had the title a hundred times.
SPEAKER_02:I think, and and now it's like Swerve, it's Swerve and Hangman were teaming up for a bit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Which is awesome. That's the worst thing ever. But now it's That's burying him. But now what but now Swerve was going after the title and they pushed him out. And now, and all of a sudden MJF magically showed back up and they gave him the next title run.
SPEAKER_00:Uh I'm gonna put a hand up. I'm gonna put a hand up here, and I'm gonna tell y'all something. If you want AEW to be on top, you need to put that title on Maxwell Jacob Freeman.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, you know, swerve sided with Hangman, and all of a sudden they bring MJF back and I agree with you.
SPEAKER_00:You get the story.
SPEAKER_02:I totally agree with you. I'm not against MJF with it.
SPEAKER_00:I totally I totally know. I know that too. Yeah, I know that too. We all know MJF is the only talent that can make it in WWE. Send him, let only mic work. Yeah, let him work on the mic. Yeah. Let him just let him just be on the mic the whole time. Be awesome. Feud him with Gunther, turn Guther baby. Let's go.
SPEAKER_01:Honestly, honestly, dude, put heal MJF and let's see who can out heal each other. Yeah, put the two heels together.
SPEAKER_00:I'm here for that. You wake over there? No. No. God. That's a good chest slap. It wasn't good, but we did see a good one. We see a fan do a chest slap at the KC chopped the hell out of some fan.
SPEAKER_01:Really? Yes. I actually I got on video.
SPEAKER_00:KC chopped the hell out of a fan.
SPEAKER_01:It was KC, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Oh.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Let me pull it up real quick. Yeah, here it is.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I seen a video. I'm talking about where the fan chopped that one dude.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, in the match. Oh, I'm talking about after the show. Oh, after the show. Yeah, I'm talking about after the show when KC did.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah, that dude was like. Oh my god. No, I promise that dude was like, do it. And I was like, you're asking a professional wrestler to mess you up, bro. I promise he's gonna do it. That dude had his hand shirt pulled up like a like you could do it. Like he was gonna take it, like he hurt. He hurt.
SPEAKER_01:Honestly, I'm pretty sure the hand print was immediate.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he hurt and left. Yeah, it's a professional wrestler. He knows what he's doing. Yeah. Take the beats of the ballow. Let Seamus lay you out. That's beautiful. That is beautiful. Um I mean. What else what other shows? The AAA show was good last night. Dom, Dom was great. Ray was awesome. Because it was Ray and Dragon Lee because uh or no, no, not Ray and Dragon Lee. Ray and Pinta, no.
SPEAKER_02:No, it was Ray and Dragon Lee.
SPEAKER_00:No, it was Ray and Ray. It was Ray Feen. It was Ray Phoenix and Ray Mysterio. That's why I was getting too much. It was their masks. Me too. It was Ray Phoenix and Ray Mysterio. Yeah, because Dragon Lee and Ray Mysterio. Because Dragon Lee had a match too. Yeah, and their masks looked almost identical. But um and Cleisto's. Yeah. Yeah. The Ray and Dom stuff was really good. Pentacles. Pentacles. And Penta came out and done a spot or two, which makes me question if he's like, but his it looked like his spot, his injury's real because it looked like it looked like he didn't do any spots that would what that would hinder his shoulder.
SPEAKER_02:I did get to watch the show, but I did read Dom got hurt. That's what I was getting ready to say. Yeah. I heard Dom asked that shoulder injury is a legit injury.
unknown:Oh no.
SPEAKER_00:Like real?
SPEAKER_02:Like real, like worker shoot, Doms hurt. Like worker shoot doms hurt.
unknown:Oh no. It's not good.
SPEAKER_02:Rassel don't die. If he doesn't show up Monday.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay. Here's a worker shoot. We can make this the last worker shoot if you want this to be the last worker shoot. All right, but here's here's a big worker shoot for you. Worker shoot, sports illustrated and AEW in cahoots.
SPEAKER_01:Sports Illustrated? I ain't been looking at it.
SPEAKER_00:Sports Illustrated put AEW as like the promotion of the year, put Tony Khan as the owner of the year. Wait a minute. They put Hangman as the wrestler of the year. But they're owned by ESPN. Oh, maybe it's not Sports Illustrated. I was about to say wait.
SPEAKER_01:It ain't PWI, is it? The Pro Wrestling.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe it was.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. Probably Pro Wrestling, because that's every year they do the rankings, you know. Yeah. Probably PWI.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, if it's Sports Illustrated, that's weird. Honestly, though, like, and I'm not. I love AEW. I love WWE.
SPEAKER_00:ESPN doesn't own Sports Illustrated, do they?
SPEAKER_02:ESPN is ESPN the magazine. But I thought they owned Sports Illustrated.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know. Let's look real quick. Yeah. I wish we had the internet. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But if you put promotions side by side, AEW is much less corporate than WWE is. So it's 100%. And I know we talk about they're sloppy or the more guys get hurt. Oh no, it's not owned by each other. Okay, okay. I stand correct. Um but honestly, like if you look at it, what's more like classic wrestling? AEW or WWE?
SPEAKER_00:I agree, but what's more entertaining? And it's it's fine. Indies. As people who consume as people who consume all forms of wrestling, Clay, what would you rather watch a WWE show, an AEW show, or an indie show? Indie show. All day. All day. People don't know. And I want people to know that if you can't afford to go to SmackDown or Raw, guess what? It's not the best thing to go to anyway. Go to a smaller show. OVW.
SPEAKER_01:And pay 15 bucks for a ticket.
SPEAKER_00:OVW is like 15 bucks in that Louisville arena. And it's awesome, dude. We've seen most of their wrestlers wrestle at this point somewhere. And they're so awesome. Go to Kentucky Championship Wrestling in Vergie, Kentucky on February 7th. And on indie shows, they actually interact with you. Yeah. And the fans like love wrestling. Most of them anyway. The fans love wrestling, and they're there because they love wrestling.
SPEAKER_01:Genuine fans are in or at indie shows.
SPEAKER_00:Genuine fans are indie shows. Right. And indie really is like that's the way to go. So I got these Sports Illustrated pulled up. John Cena actually won Sports Illustrated's Legacy Award. Which is like a normal thing, I guess. See, John Cena won it. Hangman won AEW Wrestler of the Year, and Mercedes Mercedes Monet won female Wrestler of the Year. Yeah, Noah came back in the room. Yeah, sorry, man. Hangman Adam Page. Hangman Adam Page and John Moxley was feud of the year. That's a good one. Oh yeah, that's a good one. And let's see, the story of Paige Redeeming Himself, yeah, the World Title I Story of the Year award. And then Kyle Fletcher was awarded breakout star of the year.
SPEAKER_02:Kyle Fletcher. What in the world?
SPEAKER_00:Is Kyle Fletcher? That's not is that the E AEW Kyle Fletcher?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Not the what's the proto star Kyle Fletcher?
SPEAKER_02:That's him.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. That makes sense why he's why they got him as that though. But like I'm not crazy about it. Okay, but in the surprising move, Naomi won the Hill Turn of the Year Award. Okay. I like that a lot. Yeah, I think that's I think that's solid. I actually think this is a pretty fair list now that I'm now that I'm reading it, because uh Ilya Dragonov won uh comeback performer of the year. Yeah. Spoilers. No, don't spoil anybody because it spoiled us. And although it's the happiest thing, it's also like the saddest thing. Yeah. But I'm all for it. I'm all for it too. Follow the figs. Hey, uh, welcome back. Noah Naomi won heel turn of the year.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, I actually did say that online. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That's not bad. And um Kyle Fletcher won Newcomer of the Year. Proto Protostar. Ilya. Ilya one. He's just over an Ilya one comeback of the year. Which is like, that's how I felt about it. Like Yeah, I can agree. Yeah, I can agree. What's the thing about getting over and getting a neck tattoo, though? He came back as a Russian grizzly. Yeah, he's awesome. He's the only Russian Americans I've ever liked.
SPEAKER_02:So huge.
SPEAKER_00:Or not Trump supporters, but.
SPEAKER_02:Ooh.
SPEAKER_00:Oh. I'm just kidding. Uh I'll bleep that out. Oh no more button. I need to replace the yeet with a what button because the block makes way more sense than the yeet does. Um yeah, I got my NWA rule book. Where did you get that? Joe Kazanna Productions. That's pretty cool, all right. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_02:That's awesome.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's it's um yeah, it's the book he carries around people he hit somebody with. I guess it uses a question. I actually think it would hurt him. We got an answer. Where's the street prophets? Well, oh, the street prophets. Now big boy's hurt. Big boy's out, I think.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he actually got legit hurt.
SPEAKER_00:Where's Montez Ford? But where is Montez Ford and Bianca Belair?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, he's with Bianca.
SPEAKER_00:Bianca's hurt. Okay, where's Montez Ford? I thought Austin Theory was gonna be Montez Ford. Also, we haven't mentioned Austin Theory? Yeah, that was my next shaved head.
SPEAKER_02:I was gonna tell my grandkids it's when Justin Schumer joined uh.
SPEAKER_00:Austin Theory, whip your ass. And he roll, roll into the ring and stun you. Is that his move?
SPEAKER_01:Apparently it's uh that's Grayson Waller's move. His was I can't remember the name of But it's set him up like a power bomb, but then like you over-rotate them into like a flatliner.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like him.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Whatever you guys think. I don't like him in the vision. But I like him.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think he's in the vision.
SPEAKER_00:I don't think he is either. I don't really understand what's going on. I'm just gonna be honest with everybody.
SPEAKER_02:This is the first time I have not. We'll find out next week, won't we? Hopefully.
SPEAKER_00:Probably tomorrow. Well we tomorrow's Monday. We might find out tomorrow, but whatever they recorded, I think they recorded raw too. They did. Oh. Because he's because he's he's I've already seen pictures of him. Yeah, I have to do it. In his gear. In his new gear. It looks like he peaked his pants. Oh yeah, it's cool. You're not cool as you peak his pants. He's wearing pants, which I betch is weird. I bet it's weird for him. You guys know what we haven't talked about? What? What? John Cena. That's because we're good.
SPEAKER_01:I feel you, man.
SPEAKER_00:The greatest of all time. The never seen 17 gracing Neon Kentucky with his presence one last time. John C really honestly was really good. I was happy with the last match. I was happy with everything, even the ending, because I think wrestling is poetic. And I am romantic about wrestling. And that was very romantic and poetic.
SPEAKER_01:The more I watched it, the more it just made sense. But also the more it hurt me.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I want to say something.
SPEAKER_00:Say it.
SPEAKER_02:No, the match was beautiful. Um, but I just have one complaint. The one complaint is what we just talked about earlier. Too many false finishes.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. The finisher, no finishers protect anymore. For whatever reason.
SPEAKER_02:Like I get it, one, two choke chokeholds. But damn, there was like seven, you know. And that's just my opinion. I am trying to talk a little bit like John Cena right now, which is you know, that's how I feel. It's not how everybody else feels. But that's just what I'm thank you for that. You're welcome. Um, but besides that, it was a great match. I actually told Dusty, I said it and a lot of people said on the internet too, is like the smile at the end. That's what I'm talking about, dude. Do you know what that goes back to? And when I talked to Dusty about it, I sent him a picture because after I talked to Dusty about it, John Cena actually posted the picture on his Instagram, and I was like, oh, it checks out now. That's where he got the idea from. Obi Wan. It's Obi-Wan Kenobi. Obi-Wan Kenobi knowing like how do you get this guy over as the big bad? You smile and let him kill you.
SPEAKER_01:I do want to say it's beautiful. Because Dusty had a funny comment with it. We got to give credits to bull to Bully Ray for pointing that out. Oh, yeah. He posted and pointed it out. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You smile and let you you're supposed to be the biggest good guy ever. And only one was. You smile and let the biggest bad guy kill you. I see where the line is. Yes. So. And I'm not even a Star Wars fan, and I see it.
SPEAKER_00:Let me tell you this. Okay. What is the point for a baby to lose to a heel? A baby of John Cena's stature to lose to a heel of Gunther's stature. What is the point? To pass the torch. To put over Gunther and the heat on Gunther. To put the heat on him.
SPEAKER_01:Did y'all see the video on the head?
SPEAKER_00:And let me tell you, Raw, the day after the event, he was getting death threats.
SPEAKER_01:Did you see the videos of him leaving the ramp?
SPEAKER_00:And they had to follow him out with security because people were throwing bottles at him.
SPEAKER_01:Real security.
SPEAKER_00:And on Monday night, Raw, I have not seen that much heat on one person since Vince McMahon's feud with Stone Cold Steve Austin. And I don't even know if it was that much heat, dude. I think that heat that Go through had is the most heat I've ever seen a heel have. I'm not counting Dom because Dom's a babyface. Right. I think Go through, I think that's the most heat. The fans wanted to kill him. His promo on Monday was nothing. He didn't say anything. He said like six words, and the fans did all the work. And then he left the ring. And it was beautiful. It was so gorgeous. And bro, the smile on his face, you can tell he knows. Oh yeah. He knows that they have to put something, you have to put a title on him and let him be the greatest heel of all time.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah, he's never going to be able to turn baby.
SPEAKER_00:No, he is a heel forever.
SPEAKER_02:That's solidified him.
SPEAKER_00:He is the heel.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he'll never be anything else but a heel, which is fine by me. Ride it to the moon. But yeah, you're going to have to do something. You're going to give you figure out what title you're going to give him. It's got to be a main title. Cody's. And when you give him that title, you cannot let him lose it.
SPEAKER_00:You want to hear something? He needs to powerbomb Cody through the ring and win the title from him. Crush him. Kill him.
SPEAKER_02:Put him out. But see, that's the only thing is once you give him that title, that title will never leave his hands longer than it. Like it has to surpass Roman. Roman. That's the only thing I'm worried about. Yeah. And I'm not worried about it as in like writing. I'm saying they have to figure out which title it's going to be.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and Roman, the only reason Roman worked like that is because he had minions. Yeah. Right. Roman had minions that done his work for him while he wasn't there all the time. And so Gunther like would have to wrestle full-time with Shit.
SPEAKER_02:Gunther's a workhorse. Yeah. God, he's awesome. But then again, you I don't know if that it would work for you to give him that workhorse title again because like I said, whatever title you give him, he's going to have it for over a thousand, a thousand days. Yeah, he has to.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I love Gunther.
SPEAKER_01:Honestly, after seeing the heat, beforehand, I was like, I was tired of seeing Gunther with the title. I mean, he he's great at what he does. He's a great heel. I was just tired of seeing him with the title. Yeah, I get it. But honestly, after seeing this heat, I'd have to agree with y'all.
SPEAKER_00:I just, I also love him because he's that, like, he could have been wrestling Flair. Or he could have been wrestling Carrie Von Erick in those matches because he is just that dude.
SPEAKER_02:What is he? Say it. Say it. Do it. Say it.
SPEAKER_00:Grappler?
SPEAKER_02:No. Old say it. Say it. What did everybody in the early 80s and late 70s in wrestling hate? What was your biggest heels? I don't know. Tell me. No name for Germans.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, German. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, dude. I seen a thing today that was showed the Hitler mustache, and they were like, if Gunther really wants to get more heat, here's the only way he can do it. Jeez. And they were like, they were like, put the Hitler mustache on. I was like, because he's Austrian anyway.
SPEAKER_02:That's why. Like he is, he's already an old school wrestler, but he's and he's a heel buttons.
SPEAKER_00:He's the ring general. The gimmick is implied.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:The gimmick is implied. He's the early it's the late 80s, early.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. It's all of that.
SPEAKER_00:If this was 1988, he'd have a swastika on his gear. Yeah. At least an iron cross.
SPEAKER_02:You know, don't you think so? The only time in the 80s, he'd be annoyed. It comes out in the military jacket. The only wrestler to an SS jacket. Only wrestler to ever point it out, and he had to delete his tweet about it was Seamus when he featured with Seamus. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. And Seamus made made that joke.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:About like, you know, yeah, of course we're going to hate the heel that comes out with the German accent and comes out in a military long coat. Who do you think he is?
SPEAKER_00:It's an SS jacket.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah. And then like everybody was like, oh. And then about 30 seconds later, it went delight.
SPEAKER_00:It's gone. Yeah. Sorry. No Nazi tweets. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:The dude's like, hey, you can't say that.
SPEAKER_00:No Nazi tweets. Clay, you got any more worker shoots? God, we ran through everything. Christmas show is beautiful. That's beautiful, man. I wish we had some jingle bells, jingle, jingle, jingle.
SPEAKER_02:I mean That was close. That was good enough. That was good enough. That was good enough. That's good enough. I can edit it. I have a um what if history do it uh segment.
SPEAKER_00:What if what if? Well, we Alan wanted to do that for fantasy booking?
SPEAKER_02:No. My name is Mark. Okay, it was a fantasy booking that almost happened. It was a match that almost happened. Sting and Undertaker feud. Oh. It actually almost happened. What, like 07? Yeah. Do you know who put a stop to it? Everybody wanted it. Everybody. Vince. Vince said, they said Vince didn't like Sting. Vince said he didn't like Sting. They said Vince didn't know Sting. And I was like, and he and he said, I just don't think uh my caliber caliber fans would go for this when all the fans were begging for it.
SPEAKER_00:I was gonna say the fans love Sting.
SPEAKER_02:And he said, I don't know this guy. I don't like this guy. I don't think they will go for it. And he squashed it before while they were trying to ride it up.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's the what's the sense though.
SPEAKER_01:That's six years after they buy him out, and that was one of the WCW's biggest stars. Yeah, but could you I mean, could you imagine though that could you imagine that though?
SPEAKER_02:Oh it would have been a match.
SPEAKER_00:Well, if he would have done it, though, it might have been bad because he would have just buried Sting.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, if it wasn't a bury. I'm just saying like that feud. Don't you think he would have just buried Sting? In a match, yes. If it was mania, yeah. But I'm just talking about in a feud. Like that. It was supposed to be.
SPEAKER_00:We buried everybody from WCW.
SPEAKER_02:Well, yeah, that's true. It was supposed to be an absolute feud.
SPEAKER_00:Where'd Steve Blackman go?
SPEAKER_02:See in WCW?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You know who uh about Ray? Where's Ray?
SPEAKER_00:Ray who? Mystio. I mean, he's there. He he's one of the only WCW comeovers, though, that like that made it, right? Eddie, yeah, he's dead.
SPEAKER_02:But Eddie made it. Those are the only two I can really Benoit. Even though I shouldn't say that name, maybe.
SPEAKER_01:That guy.
SPEAKER_00:So because they had bigger plans for Benoit, right? I mean, like, if Benoit wouldn't have done that stuff, they had bigger plans for Benoit. Yeah, Benoit was he was putting a rocket. No, he was putting a rocket on Benoit. He was like he was Benoit was lifting heavy weights in that.
SPEAKER_01:He actually scheduled a fight punk.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. He was doing heavy lifting, Benoit was. What about Owen Hart? His career kind of fell short.
SPEAKER_03:Oh.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That was a let's go.
SPEAKER_00:All right, boys. Um, next show. We'll see you all next year. Next show will be uh there so we know I've started a calendar, and there's like there's like a show on January 2nd. Okay, so funny enough, there's a show December 27th. Or December 26th.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, a week from today.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we're we're gonna go to that. Clay's leaving for Clay's leaving for Florida at midnight the night before, so we can go that day. Friday night, right? Where's it at?
SPEAKER_01:No, I think it's uh next Sunday, I think.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, is it the weekend? Yeah. Uh Kingsport.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, it's Saturday.
SPEAKER_00:It's Kingsport, I think.
SPEAKER_01:It is. Let me let me let me double check.
SPEAKER_02:Is Bo gonna be there?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know who's gonna be there, baby. I'm sure you gonna work.
SPEAKER_02:Is Bo gonna be there?
SPEAKER_00:Bo.
SPEAKER_02:Bo. Kingsport.
SPEAKER_00:You just keep saying Bo?
SPEAKER_02:No, I fucking hope not.
SPEAKER_00:Bo will be there. Bo and his Bo and his Bo and his woman. Bo and his wife will be there. Bo and his new wife, what's her name? Janet James. Uh Judy Taylor. Yeah. Judy Taylor is the same. Sweet Judy Lee. Sweet Judy Lee. Ain't that uh yeah, sweet Judy Lee. Treff Clay. What do you got on your mind? Say it.
SPEAKER_03:I ain't got nothing on my mind.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, you ain't got nothing?
SPEAKER_01:Okay, actually.
SPEAKER_00:I got money on my mind.
SPEAKER_01:I believe there is a show in King Sport Friday and Saturday night, because I forgot I sent you.
SPEAKER_00:We're gonna stay on that and watch them both.
SPEAKER_01:Because I sent you that one. It shows RT3 versus Mike Mann.
SPEAKER_00:I just want to watch RT3 Wrestle. Christmas.
SPEAKER_01:Christmas Star Wars is the event. Let's go. But I swear I know there's another one.
SPEAKER_00:Why didn't it make any sense? The Christmas Star Wars Wrestling Joe.
SPEAKER_01:And then let's just say this, and it's probably I'm just probably pointing out the obvious. But it's funny how we go to one show in Tennessee and then the Tennessee wrestling world just opens up to us. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It's because you added 65 Tennessee wrestlers this weekend. I did. But what are you gonna do about it? I ain't gonna just share about it. We only post about wrestling anyway. Alright, boys. So next show we'll have. This has been the Super Christmas show. Next show we'll have is gonna be next year. Uh probably go to a couple more indie shows before we even record next. Uh because that's that's what we'll be doing. Stick to the worker shoot podcast for all your what is it? Tim T-I-N, Saturday, December 27th. That looks good. Stick to the Worker Shoot podcast. Um the show and color team is gonna bring you is is gonna everything. It's gonna bring you everything from indie wrestling, right? We're gonna tell you about what's going on in indie wrestling. We're gonna review the shows unbiasedly, tell you our real opinions on the shows and tell you how it really feels. We're just trying to elevate all of indie wrestling because we support indie wrestling, I think it's more than anybody else does. So, you know, whatever. We're here for it. Um, we're here for everything KCW, Kentucky Championship Wrestling and Virgin, Kentucky is doing uh all year next year. Uh super excited about Tag Division maybe starting up next year. So that's that's information I can share. So they're gonna work on they're working on working on a tag division. Oh, wow. So that'll that'll be that'll be awesome when we get that going. And then uh we might be able to get those. Oh they start Tag Division, they can actually even talk about it. God, I can't wait for that. They can talk about it anyway. Uh yeah, boys, tune in uh next time to get more info from the indies. The champ is here. Claybo has his uh John Cena farewell belt. But yeah, boys.
SPEAKER_01:Um it's been been a good time.
SPEAKER_00:It's been it's been a great time. Everybody's having a great time, and it's a great show. Life is good. Life is good and ransom's good. Noah's riding a high right now that he's never had before from these indie shows.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, when you stand next to the NWA world champion, it just does something to you, man.
SPEAKER_00:Gel compare mullets.
SPEAKER_01:Believe it or not, he didn't even make a comment about it. Not that nothing's wrong with that, but I'm really shocked that he didn't.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I'm really shocked that he didn't. He wasn't shown full blast. Hey boys, uh, don't be marks today. Noah. See you dub! Clevo, remember, wrestling is real, people are fake. Yeah! Wes ring the bell.