Work Or Shoot?: A Wrestling Podcast
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Work Or Shoot?: A Wrestling Podcast
We Follow The Belt Chaos, Book The Rumble Picture, And Map Out A Year Of Indie Wrestling
We dive straight into SmackDown’s shock finish, then chase the ripple effects across the Rumble picture, Cody heel theories, and a volatile midcard. The back half is a love letter to indie wrestling with full cards, factions in crisis, and the road map for a busy 2026.
• Drew’s win and Fatu’s fingerprints on the main event
• Melo vs Shinsuke entrances and Trick’s ceiling debate
• Rumble in Saudi speculation and legends factor
• Cody heel turn theory and Gable return timing
• Punk, Breakker, Seth triangle and title paths
• Becky elevating Maxine and women’s division depth takes
• AEW highlights with Callis family growth and Hangman–Swerve heat
• Tanahashi tribute and IWGP V4 design reverence
• Indie focus: NWA Crossfire details and Innovate stakes
• KCW Ascension hype, new faces, and merch plans
• AMW Too Sweet preview and community shoutouts
• 2026 coverage goals across multiple states
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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, the team that brought you Show and Color podcast and T4 Productions proudly brings to you the greatest wrestling podcast in the world. The Redneck Ring General Noah. The can't see 17 Claybo. Yeet Classy Wayne O'Blassie.
SPEAKER_00:Classy Wayne O'Blassie.
SPEAKER_02:Ultima West. And I'm Heavy D, the Worker Shoot Podcast. And if you don't like that, we got two words for ya. Welcome back. What's up, guys? Yeet. That's one word. That's one word. Yeet yeet.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there you go.
SPEAKER_02:Yeet yeet. No yeet. It's two words. Yes, yeet. Oh. Got yes, yeet. Uh welcome back, Marks. Uh let's introduce, let's go around the room and introduce ourselves. Uh hello. My name is Mark.
SPEAKER_01:My name is Marcus.
SPEAKER_02:My name is also Mark.
SPEAKER_01:My name is Mark.
SPEAKER_02:And on the call, we have Bitch.
SPEAKER_00:My name's Jeff.
SPEAKER_02:My name's Jeff. Um Wino's back with us. He he's he appeared out of nowhere. He was off uh for an injury, maternity leave or something.
SPEAKER_00:They're making some changes. I did put an application in with the real world.
SPEAKER_02:Are you talking about this actual real world?
SPEAKER_03:It's all a simulation, bro.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. So this weekend, Friday night on SmackDown, we're gonna start with WB Talk, which is which is which is which is right into it from us. Right?
SPEAKER_03:Just let's go for it.
SPEAKER_02:It's what we wanted, right? We got what we wanted. We're gonna start right at the main event. We we got what we wanted. We knew it was gonna happen. Nope. Didn't expect how it happened. Nope.
SPEAKER_01:I still ain't got to watch it. You know what happened? I know yeah, the result.
SPEAKER_02:We should watch wrestling.
unknown:I I know.
SPEAKER_02:Drew McIntyre. And new uh thanks to Jacob Fatu. Yep. Fatu got that Rowan Reigns treatment, got them new tefers. Did them oh, is that right? You see them? Yeah, you new teefers. Beautiful new tefers all over, baby. Yeah, damn.
SPEAKER_01:I won't meet I hope he gets new grills.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I'm sure he'll get good grills.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Grills playing in. Wayneo, did you watch it?
SPEAKER_00:I did. I watched a whole lot of it. All of it. Yep. I did. A whole lot of it or all of it. All of it.
SPEAKER_02:I watched all of it. I did. It was a good show. Um no, we skipped through half of it. Yeah, we actually, me and Clay were falling asleep and was like, hey, you want to watch this main event? It was like, yeah, alright, let's go. Straight to the main event. So I don't know what else happened. A lot of it. I have no clue. I don't know what happened. You didn't make sure that was. We watched the Melo and um what's his name match? Uh Shinsuke. Oh, we watched that. Melo and Shinsuke. That was a good match. All-time entrance match. Oh good entrances, yeah. Shinsuke's entrance is always my favorite.
SPEAKER_03:His gear was awesome too. How do you feel about the um Trick Williams Wharton measuring match?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. It was um it's okay. Trick's not really on his level.
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_02:And it was and it was apparent that he wasn't on his level.
SPEAKER_03:Um also though, it's literally they're doing the same thing they did to Melo.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Melo Melo's first like entrance, he came out and called everybody old and said, I'm better than everybody. Immediately got his ass whipped.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And now they're going to do the same thing with they keep doing that.
SPEAKER_01:They're the same person though, ain't they?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. No.
SPEAKER_01:Pretty much.
SPEAKER_02:Trick will have a match with him soon for like in the open challenge.
SPEAKER_01:When I did see next week is Trick and Cardano for the number one contender. Oh shoot. Yeah. Yeah, it's match one.
SPEAKER_03:It's it's uh yeah, it's a tournament. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Is it tournament? Okay, yeah. I just number one contender match. I just saw the match graphic card. Yeah, I'll just read number one.
SPEAKER_02:Championship for the pin belt. Whoever wins those matches has a fatal four-way at Saturday night's main event.
SPEAKER_03:For Drew or for Drew.
SPEAKER_02:At Saturday night's main event. Whoever wins the fatal four-way faces Drew at Rumble.
SPEAKER_03:So I'm gonna say this. Um lot of talk right now. Uh Lucas, I talked to him on the way over here. Uh, and he said there's a lot of talk all over the socials that at Rumble, he's dropping the title.
SPEAKER_02:To who? To whoever wins to Fa 2. Fa 2's in the tournament. That smells and he said he's dropping the title. That smells obvious.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. That makes sense with them saying, you know, with I I don't think he's gonna drop it at Rumble. I I just think they're gonna let him have it a while. I don't think so. I think it's gonna change hands a couple times. Mark.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, we had two baby face champions for a long time, right? Or I mean for a little bit now.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Seems kind of weird. And Fatu.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and Fatou is like a baby.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Fatou's Fatu's gonna be a baby no matter what. So, all right. There, here's my argument. Fatou thinks Drew attacked him. Yeah, I Fatu takes the belt from Drew. Turns out Cody attacked him. Cody comes back as a heel because they're saying that Cody's not gonna be back for a while and they're redoing his character.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. I read the group chat, boy. I seen it. I read the group chat, all right. Yeah. So he's obvious about it. You saw it?
SPEAKER_01:I saw it. What do you think? I I believe it. Yeah. Listen, I've I've been I've I've been saying it. Cody will turn heel. Well, yeah, he's gonna turn heel. But but I'm but I've been just strong on it though. Like I know it what ain't happening now, but it's around the corner.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Gable coming back at Rumble? Has to. Has to. I think Gable will come back at Rumble. What if he won? I think somebody Wilde's gonna win. I would I would like that. Yeah, I'd love that. Shinsuke. No, I really so we were talking about how Drew and me and Wes were talking about how Drew and Punk had a huge feud and now they're both on top. And we were talking about how that's like so classic wrestling that they had an amazing feud. It put them both so over that they went to other feuds and got titles.
SPEAKER_03:Punk also got a new tattoo. What do you get? He got Larry's pop grant.
SPEAKER_02:Oh. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Right there on his chest.
SPEAKER_02:I like that. I'm still believing there's some part in me that I think Sammy's gonna win Rumble.
SPEAKER_03:That'd be awesome.
SPEAKER_02:Has Sammy won a Rumble? No. No. No. We've been saying it for like three years. I know. But it's in Saudi Arabia. Okay. And that is true. Let's start with the process of elimination. There you go. Oh, it is in Saudi Arabia. High five across the table, Clay. You win. You got it. Sammy wins Rumble. Let's just go. It's in Saudi Arabia. He's never won a Rumble. He's never won a world title. He's never made or he's made an event in WrestleMania, but he's never made a minute in Night Two.
SPEAKER_00:He's made a segment too, where he was like talking about what he was going to do in 2026 or whatever.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but he also does that every year.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, that's what I was thinking.
SPEAKER_03:Rumble's at Saudi this year, Mania's at Saudi next year, right? Correct. Okay. Um I heard about the Rumble. We may be seeing a lot of old guys in the Rumble because Saudi is what they want. Saudi loves Ruth's.
SPEAKER_01:They want to see Andre. I mean, let's be real.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, no. But I'm just saying Saudi loves Ruth's aggression. Saudi loves Attitude Air, and they want as many of the.
SPEAKER_02:I think Bob Backlund will be in it.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I think they'll bring Bob Backlund out because that's like they loved that shit. Like the old school.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, they want everybody.
SPEAKER_02:Arn Anderson.
SPEAKER_03:It's because that's that's the era they're in right now with their TVs.
SPEAKER_01:Let's just have another greatest Royal Rumble. I genuinely love that. The Greatest Royal Rumble. They had it in Saudi in 2018, I think. That's when Tyson fell in the ring. That's when Tied Twitter. Tyson Neil fell through the ring. It was a completely irrelevant rumble, but there was a 40-man rumble, and like there were so many people, and like people no one's ever seen either. Like they was just pulling everyone off the street. That's what they're gonna do.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah, Bron Strowman won it, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Rip. He is still the reigning Royal Rumble, greatest Royal Rumble champion.
SPEAKER_02:Also want to say uh Braun Strowman is my best selling toys. I can sell so many Braun Strowman toys. Really? People love Braun Strowman toys. I like him. I like him a lot. Probably because he's gone and he's doing uh I think he's just a big dude and he looks really cool. Yeah. Like Wayne.
SPEAKER_01:Big dude looks really cool. Cone bread fed.
SPEAKER_02:Uh I think no, I don't think. I know Punch's gonna lose a title soon, right? Yeah. Yeah to a returning who? I mean Dom's gonna lose the intercontinental to somebody. Dom's out. That sucks though that he's out and like what's it where's the belt?
SPEAKER_01:It's with him. It's gotta be a minor injury.
SPEAKER_03:Or I think it's obvious that it is. It's it's a minor, it's not a major injury. Uh he's not on a honeymoon.
SPEAKER_02:Could it be Breaker? Breaker, you think Breaker's gonna like gonna beat Punk? Maybe.
SPEAKER_03:Um I don't know about that. Unless if they just keep building off of it.
SPEAKER_02:I want to say that I don't get the Breaker losing a punk the other night. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So that don't make sense to me. I I'm I'm gonna book a little bit. I'm gonna say they are gonna have a main event where it's gonna look like Punk is gonna beat Breaker, but Breaker's gonna get foiled and lose the match because Seth's gonna come back and cost him the match. Because the only person that Seth now hates more than he hates Punk is he hates Breaker.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And that could be true. That's a great way for them to bring him back. Yeah. And actually to show that um Theory was a double agent the whole time and Theory was with Seth.
SPEAKER_02:Which we think anyway, because he's wearing all Seth's attire.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he's wearing the he's wearing the uh the Seth attire that he wore when Seth was the um Jesus. Yeah, yeah. And also, what'd they call him?
SPEAKER_02:I forgot.
SPEAKER_03:The uh was it the visionary? Yeah, the visionary. Oh, yeah, the visionary. Yeah, yeah. I think it was something else. Messiah. Messiah. Yeah, he was the messiah. That's what he was the messiah. But and he's also doing the you know, the the stomp. Oh yeah. Yeah, that that's his move now. I was like, that's never been his move. Why would he do it now?
SPEAKER_02:It's also way harder than the rolling stunner. No, that that's Austin Theory.
SPEAKER_01:No, that was Grayson. I mean, Grayson. Austin had that crazy like powerbomb setup and then like over-rotate him into it like a flatliner. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's good too, though.
SPEAKER_01:It was. I like that move. Crazy move.
SPEAKER_02:I like him. But um I think I'll I I just don't I don't know if I get it. I just don't get that him losing. I mean, it he could have easily beat him and been fine with it, but also I'm such a mark all the time with it, so I don't I don't even know. I'm kind of marked on both sides. I'm ready for a pay-per-view though. It feels like it's been forever.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell me about it. I think they just booked that match. Um I'm sorry, overbooked and overhyped that for Stranger Things crossover event. Pritrick would definitely say worker shoot. Stranger Things crossover event. No stranger things cast.
SPEAKER_02:I absolutely think it's a shoot. I absolutely think the Stranger Things cast was like, we're done with the show. We don't want anything to do with it. It was after the show was over. The the finale's been gone. The finale was over.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, they have something coming out, like the making of, but like what's that have to do with yeah. Michael Cole couldn't get out of the van. Yeah, I know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's awful. I missed that. Yeah, Michael Cole couldn't get out of that out of the Stranger Things van. I am glad to see that there wasn't much crossover stuff.
unknown:No.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm honestly, yeah. I was like, the biggest crossover was um Corey Graves. Yeah, pretty much.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah, he kept talking about it. He was wearing the hell the hellfire clues.
SPEAKER_03:He was wearing the um the leather jacket and trying to dress like he was 16 in the 50s. A greaser. Yeah, he looked uh greaser or a soche. No, he's a greaser. He looked like a greaser.
SPEAKER_02:Use derogatory terms, please. Hey. What? Outsiders was a great movie. Um I I mean, yeah, I mean, you're right. Also a great tag team.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that too. Yeah, that too. One of the greatest tag teams of all time. I think guys. I would say better than the movie. Yeah. You know. Yeah. The better outsiders, but both are great.
SPEAKER_02:And let's talk about Maxine Dupree getting put over. They they put Maxine Dupree over, let her hold that title for a few minutes to make her relevant in the scene. I I would not lie. And Becky's Becky's doing God's work right now. She's so good.
SPEAKER_01:When like seeing her on this on now. I I really just hate her. Seeing her on the run for the title, because I'd never really seen her, like seen her work until this stuff. And I've been impressed with her.
SPEAKER_02:Maxine. She is so good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:She's gonna be I've enjoyed, you know, watching her.
SPEAKER_02:I guess that's her job to make me hate her.
SPEAKER_01:It is. That is true. That is true.
SPEAKER_03:But you're forgetting the fact that she dropped the title back to Becky and she's off TV now. She'll be fine, she'll get spots. No, she asked for time off.
SPEAKER_02:Oh shit, okay. What'd you say, Weno?
SPEAKER_00:I said I have a question. What? And I mean this with all due respect. There are a lot more women matches these days on shows than like say six months ago.
SPEAKER_02:You know how I know? I'd be fast forwarding through most of the show.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Again, I'm not sexist. I just think WWE's women's talent is mediocre.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, you're right, valid.
SPEAKER_02:AW's is worse, but yeah. Some of those girls look like they're gonna get killed. Not sky blue.
SPEAKER_01:Knockouts are the greatest women wrestlers.
SPEAKER_02:Knockouts are good. Jordan Grace.
SPEAKER_01:They always have been.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I was just about to say that. She got caught up. Did you see that post today? Chris Van Vliet's tweet was like, who did I interview today? And somebody said Sidney Sweeney.
SPEAKER_01:I sent one of you that said Sabrina Carpenter. Sabrina Carpenter, yeah. It was it was Jordan's back. I saw another one. She was like rude. I I cannot remember. I saw another one that was hilarious. Uh someone should have said huge. Someone should have said Greg Valentine. Uh shout out Chris Van Vliet on the podcast. Oh, that was awesome, yeah. The real, real one. CVV.
SPEAKER_04:Gosh.
SPEAKER_01:You good? No. You didn't quit you didn't quit the smoking, didn't you? Obviously not.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. What do you think about talent that like is in other promotions that come like to the WWE and then they're like, hey, go to NXT? You think it bothers them? You think they kind of agree they should be? They let Jordan Grave. She came, she was hot, she had that fumble appearance, and she made like a match on TV, and then you played NXT you go. Do you think it bothers them? You know she just got signed to SmackDown. I know, I know she's fighting like I'm saying she went down unless she's back. So I was I mean, and then think about somebody like Jay Cargill, who was definitely greener than uh Jordan Grace, who had her big appearance from other promotion and leading to the main.
SPEAKER_02:We all agree with that. We all agree with you that Jade that's a good one. Um I think the problem is they didn't put Jade in NXT because they don't want to hurt developmental talent. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um I I won't disagree with her being green, but I think it's also about how they are. Yeah, it's so Jade Jade was the face of the women's division in AEW. Yeah. So like that says something though.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think she's over anything. I know that's what I think. Well, it's because she's not wrestled. Yeah. Like, I mean, okay, so here's here's the thing. You you gotta do something other than let her cut her cut her promos because the the quote unquote unquote I'm that bitch promos are not working. That's all she says. They're not working. They're not working. I like that. I know, but it's not believable because she's not beaten anybody, because she's not having any matches. She hasn't defended the title.
SPEAKER_00:No, you're right. But it's it's the snarkiness of it. Yeah. No, you're that bitch, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, sure, but is she? See, it could work if they was if they was booking it as like she's acting like that and like choosing to not defend.
SPEAKER_02:Well, if you could work like that, but if you wanted to be the next Goldberg, do you you she's not because Goldberg wrestled every night.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Goldberg had like 150 matches before he lost it.
SPEAKER_01:No, it went up 25 every week, but it did go up 25 every week, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:What Wayne?
SPEAKER_00:I said, did he really wrestle every night though?
SPEAKER_02:Okay, Goldberg got paid to be in the ring.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, there you go.
SPEAKER_02:He doesn't spear and a jack knife every night.
SPEAKER_03:And kids, today the word of the day is antibiotics. Either Klaybo or Heavy D know what they are.
SPEAKER_02:I've been taking antibiotics, man.
SPEAKER_01:This is you ain't finished them though. That's why it ain't working.
SPEAKER_03:You ain't finished them.
SPEAKER_02:Um you make me say um too much because you cut off my my train of thought because you're such an idiot. All right. I can't work here anymore. Oh, good thing, Clay Carries. Yeah. That was Clay's response, Jim Carrie. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:All right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Follow figs. I have something that Noah wanted to say. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It's a very notes. What? It's just it's just something random, but a realization that I had just yesterday. Um Johnny Knoxville has a better win WrestleMania win percentage than The Undertaker. Fuck.
SPEAKER_02:100%.
SPEAKER_01:Johnny is at 100% and Taker is at 92%.
SPEAKER_02:Clay, who did you beat? Sammy's name. How'd he beat him? Mousetrap. Mousetrap pin. His shoulders weren't even on the mat. It didn't make any sense. Like he pinned him in it, and like uh whoever was calling the match was like, he wasn't really even down. Yeah, it's okay.
SPEAKER_01:Like I'm I'm probably late to the party realizing it, but it was just like, wow. Uh also shout out Johnny Knoxville, uh, new Jackass Nounce. Yeah, God cannot wait. Super pumped. Twitch and bam's on the cast.
SPEAKER_03:Nope. Nope. They've already he ain't performing stunts. No, he they they're saying it's gonna be backed footage. They're trying to get him to come back. They only have rights to like backlog footage. The backlog footage, yeah. Yeah, and they're like, bam, we need you. And he's like, no, you know how he is. You're gonna pay me more.
SPEAKER_01:That's false advertisement. Your false advertisement. Yeah, bigger than shit.
SPEAKER_02:It's okay. I don't have no more WWE. No, I don't have any more WWE talk.
SPEAKER_03:I'm trying to think if there was anything else real big, like in the news or anything. Um no. Jack O'Foldesall. Huh?
SPEAKER_02:Jacko Fuldasol.
SPEAKER_03:It wasn't, it was WWE. Yeah, yeah. We're all just marks.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Adam Pierce Fuldesall. Is he still on the AEW roster as of yet? Bro, what do I say? If they talk about it, it ain't real.
SPEAKER_01:It is true.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, I do have one more WWE. One more. The Rock offered final match at WrestleMania. 43. I heard about that. That's the most Saudi thing ever.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly. That's the point, Wesley's making it. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02:I got a hand up. Is anybody ready for mine? My worker shoot. Streak. Workers shoot. Saudi Arabia is going to buy the WWE before the end of 2026.
SPEAKER_03:Shoot.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's a shoot. They're going to own it. They're going to own it. It's not even, it's I think this, I think they're testing it. I think a sample taste is Rumble.
SPEAKER_01:I think Saudi is just going to own all sports by 2030. We're the capitalism level.
SPEAKER_02:It's really close, but they already got boxing. Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and UFC. Oh. And PBR. It's all on by TKO. Okay. Oh.
SPEAKER_03:There's one thing we ain't talked about. Kilt. Kilt. Kit Wilson and his new Titan Tron. Kit Wilson's awesome. That new song that obviously apparently apparently that song he's had since October and we've just not paid attention because there was not any good Titan Tron graphics. And now it's like, hey, you wanted to boo this guy, and everybody loves him dancing to his music.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, I've been high on those dudes forever. Are you kidding? I think they're amazing. I think pretty deadly is so good. Elton Prince's career's over.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. He well, he wants to get back in the ring. I don't know if that's ever gonna happen. Um best thing to happen, worst thing to happen to Elton. Best thing to happen for Kit because Kit's over, but Elton just had double neck fusion.
SPEAKER_02:So Kit is doing tax toxic masculinity, uh, toxic masculinity gimmick, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Um his ring gear is um also he's huge.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know if you guys know or not, but he's a he's a fucking man. He's like 6'6, he's gigantic. That move of his He's awesome.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, uh, it might have been the was it the Cardona match that he was it Cardona the felt? Yeah, I think it was that. But his move, like it he like it looks like he was going for a twist of fate, and then just it was like a rolls, like a crossbody rolling DD tier. Like it was so weird, but but neat. I was like, I had to rewatch it. I was like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_02:His gimmick just feels indie. He does all the time.
SPEAKER_03:He modeled his um his new gear, his new ring gear and walkout gear is Harry Styles.
SPEAKER_02:That checks out.
SPEAKER_03:So like it's exact it's exactly a Harry Styles outfit that he did in a concert. Yeah. And they're like, hey, you know, just make it into a vest that I can take off.
SPEAKER_02:That tracks. That's fair. Did you watch that, Wayne? Did you say what do you think about Kit?
SPEAKER_00:I I like it. Um I'm I'm trying to think of that move though. I didn't see the move for sure.
SPEAKER_02:I'm gonna have to go back and look at the move too.
SPEAKER_01:I think it was it was for sure. I think it was the ending, the the ending uh sequence.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because yeah, it was the finish, yeah. Cardona. Also, boys, I'm gonna tell you, I know everybody glazes him, but I'm just gonna do it. I fucking love Matt Cardona. Everybody loves him. I just absolutely love him.
SPEAKER_01:Dude, I've been I've been rocking with him since Eve, since Eve Torres broke his heart.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you know everybody loves him, everybody's jealous of him, everybody wants to be him.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Whoa, whoa, what he's awesome, man. Always ready. Know it. Really, oh man, he's great. He he was that promo, like his promo was good. His matches, I think his matches are his ring work is as good or better than anybody in WWE, man. Yes, like I think his promo work is not on par with a lot of guys, but just because indie promo work is different than WWE promo work, right? You're doing it for a cam in WWE. Yeah. Um, but his in ring work, man, is just nuts. I love hearing him talk. I love hearing him talk, and and then, you know, we share the same heart of wrestling figures. Yeah. That's just a very charismatic guy.
SPEAKER_03:You also, heavy D share the same heart with him or his wife.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, I know. That's what I said. I want to be Matt Cardano, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Actually, love Chelsea Green, love wrestling figures.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And Matt Cardona. Damn, the Lord blessed him. I mean, actually, though, really, you gotta think about it. Yeah, they both got released, went to the indies, completely reinvented themselves, didn't like try to just write off the coattails of their WWE fame with that. Tot tack Chelsea's the better of the two. Um completely got over in the indies, then got called back up.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he said it was his ultimate goal. He said that's what he always wanted to do. He wanted to come back. Cinderella story. That's awesome. Yeah. Natural segue. Next indie show. This weekend. Friday night.
SPEAKER_01:NWA Cross NWA Crossfire. Locked and loaded.
SPEAKER_02:Every match in a steel cage. Women's championship.
SPEAKER_01:Has to be. It's Kenzie's, it's Kenzie's company.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. It's Kinsey's company. Oh, Kenzie's Kenzie's there's a championship match with Kenzie.
SPEAKER_01:I would say, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, you know how Bet's there? That guy that sat beside us at the NWA show. Guarantee he's there.
SPEAKER_01:He was the one that showed us the event, wasn't he? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he was the one that showed us the event. Yeah. So if I don't get to go, find him.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:Find that guy. Because I guarantee he's there. There's a dude that we that we sat next to at the NWA show that he had to be somebody. We said he had to be somebody that we didn't recognize him. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like he said he said he was being a fan for what, 55 years?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and I asked him, I asked him how long he's been involved. Like how long he's been involved in he's he kind of acted like he wasn't involved, but dude, he had an NWA ring on.
SPEAKER_01:So like he was NWA decked out headline.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I don't know who it is. I don't know, I don't know who it is.
SPEAKER_01:Like new new didn't speak much, but said so much at the same time.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Wayne, he he legitimately didn't he didn't say much at all, but was like knew everything going on. Board member. Yeah, it was something it's like green shirt guy. It is it it's definitely like that level. It's that level because he was he had seats saved by the Kazanas just like we did.
SPEAKER_03:Board member. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. What? That's true. Yeah, he definitely gave off vibes like he's hit a body or two. I mean in the in a good way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, in it like he would do it for you. Yeah. Shout out Kazana's coming on the podcast. Absolutely. I talked to AJ today a little bit and um they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna come on the podcast. Uh he's got he's got a weekend off. I think he was chilling this weekend. Um but yeah, Friday night is that that show in Sevierville. Uh we're gonna have representation of the worker shoot podcast at that show. I don't think me and Clay Bar are gonna be able to go. We might be able to go if he'll quit basketball. But we uh we're gonna have representation there. But Saturday there is uh Innovate at Innovate at NetPro Studios in King Sport. It's it's the Innovate House Party. Ooh, yeah. And there's so many matches. Cross versus uh you pull up the card.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and then um I'm not sure if they've announced every match. There still might be like a match. They've not. They've not announced every match. So we have Krazo, who is the Net Pro Studios heavyweight champion.
SPEAKER_02:New heavyweight champ, Crazo. Shout out Crazo. We talked to him a little bit, he's awesome and everything and all the people in his head are awesome too.
SPEAKER_01:Versus CJ Knight for the title.
SPEAKER_02:Let's go. CJ part of a look part of Illuminati, who is under tension lately because their leader lost the belt and they didn't like that he lost the belt.
SPEAKER_01:And they kept they kept going against his word of not interfering. Yep. Then we have Big Scary and Wild Bill. Big Scary, nicest dude ever met. Versus Bobby Mitchell, who is Bruiser Bob that we've seen in AMW. Oh, shoot. And Max Michaels. And then we have the Dreamweaver, Wayne Moxie against Joe Briggs. Let's see. Four uh shout out Wayne defending the title again last night. Four that and it's this match is for the innovate American Championship as well. Nice. We have Tyler Fauci versus Brandon Hartsook of the Illuminati.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah. Another Illuminati match. So the whole group is the whole, it's like Don Callis family.
SPEAKER_01:Like the whole essentially.
SPEAKER_02:They're all there. So Oh, mention that in a second. I gotta mention that in a second. Don Callis family. I seen a I seen a thing.
SPEAKER_01:And then we have I have three big matches in a row right here. We have the Double Jeopardy match, Toby Farley and Andy Optimal versus Axon Ray and Alex Atkins of the Illuminati.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I'll I love Alex Atkins, Alex. I want to go so bad.
SPEAKER_01:And so the stipulation on that one is uh Let me see if I can find it. Everything is on the line for everyone in the match with that. Uh sick. It is it it is gonna be insane. I need to find it. They've posted the stipulation somewhere. One fall can cost championships, opportunities, and alliances. So champion uh Toby Farley's uh grand champion could be could be lost. Andy could lose his VIP fast pass, and there's something if the innovate loses, there's something that have that happens then too. Like some whoever loses is screwed.
SPEAKER_02:So the VIP fast pass clay is a uh lanyard that just says VIP on it, and I think it's um money in the bank style.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. But then we have for the innovate U.S. tag team championships, our boys of the faction. Oh, let's go versus Wayne Atkins and Nick Hammonds, uh G1, I think is their their team name. Oh, yeah, it is. And then the Innovate Women's Championship, Nicole Payne, the champion versus Colby Max.
SPEAKER_02:I followed uh Joe Briggs today.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah. Very nice.
SPEAKER_02:That's facing uh Wayne Moxie.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So he's from Wise.
SPEAKER_02:I want to give him a big thing. Oh, Joe Briggs, oh yeah. Oh, he wrestled at that show, I think, at that restaurant.
SPEAKER_03:I think we need to give a big so when we didn't go because it was five degrees out. We need to give a huge uh shout out to the faction.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah. Big, big shout out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, faction um for the for the followers and the motivation.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. It's like get the 500 chairs, get the 500 uh follows, and we'll we'll come on the podcast for free. And we got it sooner than they expected, I think.
SPEAKER_01:But it's cool. I expected it. They wanted us to get it. So this shout out to them. Be expecting them. Big shout out.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and also big shout to all the followers, all the everyone that followed us.
SPEAKER_01:Thank you. Thanks, guys. And and everyone else who who who shared for us, you know, we AJ, uh Mark Marcus Johnson, I saw he he shared for us. Uh KCW. Yeah, KCW. I mean, so many of you.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you Wayne for sharing for us.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we we couldn't do it without you guys. So I could actually do it without him.
SPEAKER_02:I would still do it without him. I just wouldn't post it. I got my whole basketball team to follow, so that's good. Um no, that was the one that he's getting ready to quit. Yeah, so we can watch wrestling. That's the long-term goal, Wayneo. No, but go ahead, sorry.
SPEAKER_03:No, um I didn't know if you guys knew this in with other indie news. This past Saturday, our boy Gen Z had a big match against Carrie Morton for the Titans.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, at um Operation Avalanche by um Battleground Wrestling.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um he retained.
SPEAKER_02:Gen Z beat Carrie.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, earned his. Oh wow, I thought Carrie won. I thought Carrie won. No, Carrie lost. Dude, was it Pinfall? Uh, I think it was. Yeah. Um shout out Gen Z.
SPEAKER_02:Let's try to find that match and let's watch that match this week. Shout out our boy Gen Z.
SPEAKER_03:Ended in a handshake.
SPEAKER_02:We're gonna have, I promise we're gonna have Gen Z on. We gotta have him again. Yeah. I I apologize that even happened. But we'll have Gen Z on. Yeah, I mean we did last week. We did last we did last week. We had an interview in it. Check the group chat. Check one time. There was there was a there was a technical issue. IT guy. IT guy messed it up, Wayne.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, I just wanted to give Gen Z uh shout out. Congrats on that win, man. Yeah, bro. Um, especially going up against Carrie, dude.
SPEAKER_02:He's gonna do amazing things in 2026. Uh that dude's gonna go way up. I'm glad to I'm glad to call him a friend. And he's only 19 years old. And also, shout out Carrie. Carrie's awesome, dude.
SPEAKER_01:They don't make them like this anymore.
SPEAKER_02:Every time I see him, every time I see him, hey, I heard rumor today that we might be getting Silas Mason at a local show. What do what? You heard me, honey. They don't make them like they used to. Telling you.
SPEAKER_01:That excites me.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. That man is the thrillbilly, is the real deal. He's super. Noah loves wrestling more than all of us. God, I do.
SPEAKER_01:Thrill Billy's awesome.
SPEAKER_02:Uh uh, so yeah, shout out all the all the indie wrestlers that are supporting us. Thanks, guys. We really, we really do like just doing this to promote it. We want more people to come to wrestling shows.
SPEAKER_01:I do gotta add one more thank you to the ones. I can't believe I did forget it. But thank you, Sean, Sean Cruz, for the sharing and getting people to follow as well. Yeah, you're real G for that.
SPEAKER_02:I made Sean Cruz on. I made Sean Cruz on WWE 2K. Oh, really? Yeah. We're gonna have we're gonna have Sean on too. Sean's gonna come on the podcast. He wants to. I I watched a I got what say to him. I bet you do. I watched clips from Sean on a podcast the other day.
SPEAKER_01:Drink it with Mo. Yeah. Yeah, I saw that. I came across that too. Boy loves to talk.
SPEAKER_02:He's awesome. I love him. Yeah. I can't wait to see that. I also love Berto. Yeah, I'm excited for that. I'm excited for that feud. Yeah, Berto, I've not heard from Berto. He went to he went to Mexico for a little while tonight. I haven't heard from him.
SPEAKER_01:He's been doing a lot like since the last KCW show. He's been like a he's literally been to Mexico since December.
SPEAKER_02:Speaking of KCW. February show.
SPEAKER_01:February 7th.
SPEAKER_02:February 7th. WW Nope.
SPEAKER_01:Nope. KCW. If you're listening, John, we won't bring Clay.
SPEAKER_02:February 7th, KCW, Kentucky Championship Wrestling Ascension.
unknown:Ooh.
SPEAKER_02:Looks amazing. Wait. First show of the year. My favorite, my favorite indie promotion. Yeah. Having the best time. Super, super excited to go to this show. Sean Cruz in action. Birdo in action. Let's see. Who else is going to be there?
SPEAKER_01:Well, they're the graphics. Luis Cortez. Luis Cortez.
SPEAKER_02:Toby Carmichael. Yeah. Adam Newsom. Newsom is going to be there. Newsom, we heard big things from Newsom. You keep up with Newsom's page. He's getting jacked, by the way. He's huge. And he said he's got some more, his gimmick changes coming up a little bit. So we're, I think, I think we're going to get, I think we're going to get uh, I don't know if this is a spoiler, Adam. I'm sorry if it is, but I think we're going to get horror at him this year. Like, like full horror at him, like full out.
SPEAKER_01:Honestly, that's what I've liked about him. So like he's always been with the horror shtick, or however you say that word. Yeah. But uh that's it. But um, but the way he is so versatile with it, that's that's one thing that's you know I've always loved about him, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Wano, have you seen Adam Newsom wrestle?
SPEAKER_00:I have not seen a whole lot of indie stuff, but I'm very apt to watch some.
SPEAKER_02:You're you're going to. We're this is the year, this is the year for Indies, right? You're gonna go to the Indie shows with us. What?
SPEAKER_00:I am a hundred percent.
SPEAKER_02:So that KCW you're gonna go to the KCW show with us?
SPEAKER_00:I will definitely go to the KCW show 100%.
SPEAKER_03:You know, I know he's lying, he said 100%.
SPEAKER_02:Please, Newsom Newsom 97%. Newsom does a horror gimmick. Um basically he has horror tattoos all over his body. He is like uh Michael Myers stuff.
SPEAKER_04:Michael Myers, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And um, so well, there's like inside info that he's gonna he's gonna do a little gimmick change later this year for us some horror stuff. So I got the stuff announced for ascension right here. Okay. Landon Hale returns to battle. NWA superstar, Spencer Slade arrives at KCW. Bertho got his hippo back, but what's next? Adam Newsom and Kobe Carmichael collide with a shooter society in a must see tag name showdown. Chase Bennett. Two new female superstars print their KCW cap. Shout out Chase Bennett, shooter society. Chase Bennett and Corey Sparks.
SPEAKER_04:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Got their gear. We got their shirts. Yeah. You'd wear those. Yeah. That's what you got to wear to the show. Yeah, it's a good shirt for that. And then I'll just buy another shirt down there. Oh, we're definitely gonna everybody be saving some money for that. Oh, and you know what we'll have by then? Our merch. We'll have our banner. Our banner will be on the rail there. Oh, yeah. On the February 7th. Our banner will be on the rail. We'll have we'll have our merch. Um hopefully we'll have hopefully we'll have a link on Facebook page where you can buy some of our shirts. But we're gonna we're gonna have them at we're gonna have them at the next KCW show. Uh with any luck anyway, we're gonna have them at the next KCW show. Uh but we'll um we're really excited about the merch we got planned. Very excited. And really excited about our future with KCW.
SPEAKER_01:I get you thinking about it.
SPEAKER_02:We're so excited about our future with Kentucky Championship Wrestling. I'm actually excited about our future with all indie wrestling because uh if you want to get your name out there and if you want to promote, and if you want to promote your show, this is the show to promote it on. Absolutely. We're in we're in touch with every indie show. We're in three different states we go to indie shows in. Four, we're getting ready to change it to four. We're gonna go to some North Carolina indie shows this this year. And some Georgia? And Georgia. We're gonna go to some Georgia shows. I'm saying, look, we're gonna be all over, yeah. We're gonna we're gonna be all over. Right. Uh just pay attention to you boys, all right? Because when we get over, we're gonna get all y'all over with us. Absolutely. All right, and we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna do some new stuff this year, some innovative stuff, some some innovative that was on purpose. I like that.
SPEAKER_01:I like that. Smooth.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we we got some big things, big things in the works. I mean, I'm I'm I'm super pumped about this year. I'm super pumped about uh Kentucky Championship Wrestling and Ascension and the call. Art is going to be amazing. The show is always fantastic. We got referees lined up for interviews. You know, we got we have uh tag teams lined up for interviews. Um, we got big plans. We're, you know, we have plans up until Halloween already of of events that we're gonna go to. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All the events that people are planning. Send us the events also. Send us the events so we know where they're at. We're gonna add them to the calendar. We're gonna go to them if we can. There's we're gonna do our best to at least one of us. Me and Noah have talked about that too, that we're gonna go solo to a show if we need to, but at least at least one of us needs to be at indie shows. The local ones, the ones that matter, you know, the big ones. They all matter, but the big ones, the ones we can make it to. We need to we need to try to be there. 2026 is gonna be a big year for the workership podcast. You got it, baby. You damn right. Are you there?
SPEAKER_00:You know what?
SPEAKER_02:I was not expecting that. Um, and so what else we got? Those those shows are coming up. Um, you got AMW Showdown. That's what's pulled up. Yeah, AMW Showdown.
SPEAKER_03:Too sweet. Talk a little bit about that, Wes. Uh yeah, it's gonna be uh February 1st at the Lexington Ice Center.
SPEAKER_04:What?
SPEAKER_03:We got the Good Brothers. They actually are doing a thing right now. Uh 100 shares of the post are going to announce who the Good Brothers opponents are at the show, the tag team opponents. I don't know who it's gonna be. It might be the Kazanas. Who knows? I'd like to see it. They've kicked each other's ass all across the country. Um, but yeah, it's gonna be a great show. Wes is gonna be there. The prospect er, um, Marty Clay, um, looks like Stan Sierra. Um, but no, uh it's gonna be a great show.
SPEAKER_01:Also, uh go ahead, tell them who else is gonna be there. Okay, well, we uh they have announced too that they have the real one formerly known as Enzo Amore.
SPEAKER_02:Sweet. I am a certified G and a mortified stud. And you can't teach that.
SPEAKER_03:The most place to say it all day. You guys are such you guys are such marks. Um it's gonna be a great show. Also, uh, if you haven't listened to the newest reel that we just posted on Facebook, go check out, you know, let us know what you think because we got uh old Heavy D calling out Kyle Maggard.
SPEAKER_02:Kyle, I told you I'm gonna call you out every show, I'm gonna call you out every AMW show until you come on the worker shoot podcast and defend yourself.
SPEAKER_03:And he might actually assault Heavy D. We don't know yet. I don't care.
SPEAKER_02:Workershoot. Kyle Maggie killed heavy D. Yeah. But yeah, that's really great. I love you, Kyle. We want you on the show.
SPEAKER_03:We know we love your product. That's gonna be it's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. So yeah, check out that too. February 1st. Lexton and I senior. You can get your tickets online. They got the link. We post the link too. Uh we'll post it again for you guys to get your tickets.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know how many of us can make it to the show, but uh we're gonna try. We're gonna try. Yeah. Lexton's Lexton's a push for us, but we're we're gonna be there. We're gonna do our best to be there. Clay's checking his basketball schedule, apparently. I'm I'm very sure he has a game.
SPEAKER_03:I think they they literally probably go check the schedule and be like, let's see where the wrestling events are. Okay, yeah, yeah, the schedule game this day. Let's go.
SPEAKER_02:We're going then. Klay don't have a game, we're going. We're going. We're good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Wait, you say you're good and then we actually two days before the event, Clay's like, I'm very ring sub, we'll be there. Did you hear me? I said, he says we're good, but then two days before the event, he's gonna be like, they rescheduled a game.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's definitely what's gonna happen. That'd be happening. Why no? You go to Lexton. Wait, no. What that worked out really good. Okay. I I am super excited about about uh everything we have coming up indie. I'm gonna talk AEW for like two seconds. Well it's not AEW, it's outside outside of AW and inside of AW. I read an interview, I read a transcript from an interview from Baron Corbin. What's Baron Corbin's real name?
SPEAKER_01:Baron Bishop Dyer.
SPEAKER_02:Bishop Dyer. Chef Bishop. Chef Bishop. Okay, uh he was talking about the Don Callis family to AW and how many members there are, you know, because they got like 14 people or something. Yeah, it looks like the NWO. Okay, seriously, seriously listen to this though. It was this was solid. He was like, I think they should book it, like he should keep adding people to it until they have like 20 members, and then Omega and Hangman have a team that's like the entire and because they're like yeah, like like NXT, like NXT Invasion, they should do it like that. Oh yeah, yeah, where it's like the whole Don Cowell's family is trying to just take over AEW, and I was like So basically the Nexus, Nexus, oh yeah, which is which is fine. Like I'm I'm good with that. WWE's doing it like done it like 15 times. They do it with DX, they did it, yeah. They do it with DX, they did it with NWO, you know, it's like they're gonna keep doing it. It works though, right? Yeah, took it out of my mouth, right, Wayne?
SPEAKER_00:That weird COVID faction that lasted for like two seconds.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, that's real too. Retribution. Retribution, yeah. They took damn chainsaws to the ropes, like, and then nothing came from it.
SPEAKER_02:You know, why'd you guys do that? I don't really understand.
SPEAKER_03:Can I just say I love what they're doing with Hangman and Swerve?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, Hangman and Swerve are doing sick work right now.
SPEAKER_03:Amazing.
SPEAKER_02:We just watched that clip of the chain spot.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god, it's so beautiful. Yeah. How many times do you think they had to uh they had to test that? They tried that like 10 times.
SPEAKER_02:We'll send that to you, Wayne. There's a spot where Hangman uh, I don't know how much AEW you've been keeping up with, but Hangman and Swerve are like whooping everybody in uh so over the ops in the ops, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Lethal weapon buddy cop tag team.
SPEAKER_02:Speaking of AEW, I just picked up a huge AEW wrestling figure collection. Anybody who likes AEW figures, holler at me. I'll see some AEW figures. It's a gigantic collection, it was awesome. Everybody loves it, it's great.
SPEAKER_03:Breathe breathe, breathe.
SPEAKER_02:It's really cool though. You need your inhaler. You need your inhaler. Yeah. No, really. Um I can't do that again. Nope. That hurt. Antibiotics.
SPEAKER_03:Coronavirus.
SPEAKER_02:Coronavirus. I'm a carrier.
SPEAKER_03:What was that?
SPEAKER_02:Yeet. Yeet.
SPEAKER_04:What?
SPEAKER_02:I don't have a yeet button anymore. We changed the yeet button to JR. That's better. JR's back. I actually got sick of Yeet. That's why I did it. Like, I was I'm so I got so sick of J. Uso that I was like, we're just gonna remove it.
SPEAKER_03:But that's another thing. JR's back in uh AEW. I did not know that. Oh, is he? Yeah, he came back. He's announcing again for him. That's wild. Whose place did he take? X Calibur? Um I don't think he's taking a place. I think it's like big events. He comes back to call a match.
SPEAKER_02:Jesse Ventura. I watched I don't think Jesse Ventura's gonna be back on um Starcade 92, and the announcers were Jesse Ventura and JR. Um that's what we watched.
SPEAKER_01:God, I bet that was a hell of an announcement.
SPEAKER_02:During my whatnot stream, we watched Starcade 92 with JR and the it was the most most out-of-pocket, like off the cuff, all the all those terms. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Because he just said whatever, and JR would be like, what?
SPEAKER_03:Um so worker shoot. Ventura is gonna be on the next uh Saturday night main event because he just called out Trump.
SPEAKER_00:I think he's good.
SPEAKER_01:You don't think he's gonna be on it? Hey, was he at the scene? Was he at the Cena's main event?
SPEAKER_02:No. Yeah, he did the pre-show.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I I didn't want we didn't watch the previous show. That's the only time they let him be in there. We didn't watch the pre-show. I know. That's the only time they let him be in there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he uh he got on live TV and was calling out everything about it. Yeah, I seen that.
SPEAKER_00:So what'd you say, Mike? I think Jason's done a whole lot of other mess up stuff in his life.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's the only thing I'm saying about that is because the whole issue with McFoley leaving WWE because of all that, and then he him and McFoley are on the same side now. They're like McFoley sided with him with the words that he's well.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, he's a democratic governor. Yeah. I mean, like that's everybody knows how he is. That's who he is. Also he's not wrong. But yeah. Um, I don't think it's gonna matter. I think Jesse, because he's not on the show long enough for it to matter, I don't think. Because the pre-show, I mean like we said, we didn't even see the pre-show. Unless he pulls a Kanye West and gets on there.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna let you finish.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm gonna let you finish, but I'm the greatest wrestler of all time. Speaking of the greatest wrestler of all time, see my hearing about Nick Hogan. Does he decide he's gonna wrestle? No, he's not doing nothing.
SPEAKER_00:There's no way that you can wrestle.
SPEAKER_03:That doesn't work for me, brother. He said he was going to. Then nothing happened. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not saying I'm gonna be right.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Um so yeah, I think the Don Cal, I mean the back to the Don Kallis thing, I love that. I think that would work. And Baron was just talking about that whole storyline, and I was like, yeah, man, I'm here for that. That would actually, I buy all that because Okada is all those dudes are great. Oh, yeah. Oh, let's talk about hey, our um NJPW guy on site, let's talk about uh Tanashi's retirement.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, yeah. Um and then Honestly, so stoked, happy, thrilled, and all the above that they brought back the version four. Version four IWGP World Heavyweight uh title design. Arguably I'm I think the greatest looking title.
SPEAKER_02:And did you know that uh did you know that WWE didn't let Shinsuke like Shinsuke couldn't go because of the like because they don't have like the stuff with him, so like Shinsuke and Shinsuke is like that's like his best friend. Oh yeah, I'm sure that's right.
SPEAKER_03:Who wore his armbands? Who wore Shinsuke's armbands?
SPEAKER_02:Uh to call the guy who beat him wore wore uh his armbands.
SPEAKER_01:Uh I want to say it wrong, but take Takashida or Takashita. Takashida.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he wore he wore his armbands because he couldn't be there.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, he wore Shinsuke's? Yeah. Oh, that's sick. That's sick. He he's a damn good wrestler, too. Yeah, he's got a lot of people.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, he's good. AEW's got all the good Japanese wrestlers except for EO. Oh, we didn't talk about that. Rheo won the tag titles. Oh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But you didn't talk about Andrade making another appearance on AEW. Oh, yeah. And then two groups now.
SPEAKER_01:He's is he in two groups? Well, the last he was on, he was in The Family Something Empire, United Empire, is that what it's called? Oh, he's in the family now. He's in the family now. Like before he like when he first came back and then had to leave because of his contract. Yeah. He he was with some other group in AEW and then returns back to the.
SPEAKER_02:They have no writers. Like it's John Moxley writes his own spots. You know what I mean? There's no there's no riders. Like, I've never seen a solid storyline. I have one storyline, one storyline was good in that whole show. Okay, I'll give you two because I'm gonna give you two because there's one that that's your favorite storyline. Say it with your chest. Okay, one is the the it's real glass. Okay. They played that right. Two is Tony Storm. Tony Storm faking Tony Storm acting like she was old Tony Storm.
SPEAKER_03:Having a big thing.
SPEAKER_02:As new Tony Storm.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Is crazy. That was so awesome. I thought that was one of the coolest spots, the coolest storylines I've ever seen anybody do. Is she was like, wasn't that the greatest performance? Do you know did you know that storyline? Bits and pieces of it. Timeless Tony Storm. Timeless Tony Storm and uh what's the girl that's in WB now?
SPEAKER_01:Mariah May. Mariah May W name.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Mariah May was addicted to or was like um was like um obsessed. Yeah, obsessed with with Tony Storm. So she became old Tony Storm while Tony Storm was still timeless.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Right. But then Mariah May beat her for the title, and Tony Storm decided she had to go back to old Tony Storm.
SPEAKER_03:She had amnesia.
SPEAKER_02:She had yeah, she said she had amnesia, yeah. From the and so she went back to old Tony Storm. Right, but then then she showed back up as like as new Tony Storm, acting as old Tony Storm as new Tony Storm.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It was really good. It was awesome. That sounds awesome.
SPEAKER_00:Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Are you telling me they had an amnesia line in modern day AEW?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that was two years ago. That's all I gotta say about that.
SPEAKER_02:It was good. Come off it. It was so good. It was good. You missed it.
SPEAKER_00:She's she's she's the only Jack amnesia line.
SPEAKER_02:Well, whatever. A AEW AEW's doing the right thing now because they got the title back on MJF. So if you want if you want if you want it to go. He's our scumbag. Yeah, he's our scumbag.
SPEAKER_01:Amen.
SPEAKER_02:Uh okay. So Ascension. Uh KCW Ascension. February 7th. Uh Virgie, Kentucky, The Nest. Belltime 7 o'clock. Um you can you can buy their Facebook. You can buy the tickets on their Facebook. Um you can holler at us. We'll get you tickets if you if you holler at us.
SPEAKER_03:Come talk to us on the while you're there. We'll be at the show.
SPEAKER_02:We'll be at the we'll be at the show front row. We don't know. Come come look. I mean, some we we might if uh there's a cloth turnbuckle George Animal Steel style.
SPEAKER_01:Sure. Or if Sean, you know, wants to. You guys are too.
SPEAKER_02:You guys are too young for George Animal Steel. I know more shit. We'll be we'll be we'll be at KCW. We're gonna be at Innovate. We're gonna be at um we're gonna be at uh NWA Crossfire.
SPEAKER_03:We're gonna try to be at AMW2Sweet. We're gonna be at AMW2Sweet. We're gonna be. Oh yeah, because Clay checked his uh Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna be at AMW2Sweet.
SPEAKER_02:And and that's in Lexington hopefully we can stay on out and work uh and we'll work another show the next day.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, right. Because at this point we're just working the show, Steve Boys. Their show, I think their show is on Sunday.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, their show's on Sunday? Yeah, pretty sure. That rocks actually.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. That's way better.
SPEAKER_02:Not for me.
SPEAKER_01:Why?
SPEAKER_02:Okay, school. We can go down there and come back. I mean, I will fine. We'll come back. Or just not go to school.
unknown:It's okay.
SPEAKER_00:We're not we're not worried about school.
SPEAKER_02:We're not worried about any of that stuff. What are you doing, Weno?
SPEAKER_00:Nothing.
SPEAKER_02:Me to I hate you, bro. I hate you so much. I hate that that was funny, actually, is what I hate. I wish I didn't laugh at it.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Um I just want I just wanted to say real quick. It's great to be back. I'm looking forward to uh getting more involved in the indie thing. Don't know a whole lot about new indies. Old indie, I kind of watched a little bit. Like Last Crusade is probably my favorite. Temple Dem's pretty good. But uh Wow.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, man. All the crickets. That's all you got. Now I gotta cut that whole, now I'm gonna cut like a whole segment where nobody was saying anything at all.
SPEAKER_00:Come on.
SPEAKER_02:It wasn't that funny.
SPEAKER_00:It was hilarious.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Alright.
SPEAKER_02:So support indie wrestling. Uh I'm gonna say it again, say it every show. Uh Klay's wearing a Mental Health Matters shirt. Moxie's Mental Health Matters shirt, probably a favorite shirt we've ever bought. Um love that. Um yeah, so buy the merch, go to the show, buy the tickets, have the time, sit, sit ringside, give the wrestlers shit, make cheer memories. Cheer for your favorite wrestlers, put your phone up, watch the show. We have a hard time with that part. Put your phone up, watch the show. Yeah, I don't I got no service there. Well, yeah, oh, none of us got service at the NAS. That's true. All the other shows we have service at in the NAS, we do not have service at. Um yeah, boys. So yeah, like I said, support the all the indie wrestling that you can. Also support uh the worker shoot podcast. Uh look us up on Facebook, uh, TikTok, YouTube. The YouTube channel's popping, so get on there. We're posting we're posting new stuff all the time on the YouTube channel now. Uh Instagram, oh yeah, we got Instagram stuff now. That's good. Spotify. Yeah, Spotify, yeah, Spotify. Look, the links are on the page, right? Yeah. Just go to our page, find the links, uh, check it out. You're gonna love our content or you're gonna hate our content. Either way, you're gonna listen to us because uh you're Mark, and we're a Mark. We're all Marks now. I'm a Mark, you're a Mark. He's a Mark. We are Mark, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Anyways, also just give us a big super kick on that follow button, guys.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, not hard to do. Click it. Click it. It means more to us than it means to you. Please do it. That's that's just the truth. Um, the mask of the mask of souls is here on the table with more signatures, uh, more signatures every time it's here. So we're gonna get some more wrestlers to sign the mask of souls. It makes this podcast more powerful every time. Absolutely. Okay. So follow us on everything, comment on everything, send us a text, come on the show, support indie wrestling, buy wrestling figures, let them breathe, play with your toys. Don't be a marked to that. Get your cat get your get your cat spade or neuter and let your dogs loose.
SPEAKER_01:Anybody got anything else, boys? Same as always. God wrestling's good. Waino.
SPEAKER_00:I ain't got a thing.
SPEAKER_03:See you in six months, bro.
SPEAKER_02:See you next time we're over, man.
SPEAKER_00:Wait a minute. Wait a second. Hold on, hold on. What does that mean? What do you mean? I got a question. Work or shoot, Wayno's back or not?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, it it's work. Yeah, it's it's work. I mean, we're I don't I mean, yeah, you might be back. I don't know what your plans are. He's the part-timer of the group. We're kind of Wayne, you're our jobber.
SPEAKER_00:You're you're you're you're okay, but you're welcome.
SPEAKER_01:He's Wayne Johnson. Wayne Johnson.
SPEAKER_02:He's the sock. All right. All right, boys. Anybody got anything else, Noah? What? Claybo? Yeah, boys. Why no? Ring the bell.