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We come back swinging with a full weekend game plan built around indie wrestling, rumor-worthy surprises, and the hard choices fans make when great shows run on the same night. We break down WrestleWars, Innovate Wrestle Fest, and SummerSlam with the kind of honest reactions you only get from people who actually go to these shows.
• WrestleWars in Knoxville as the must-pick show
• Avery Styles and CJ Gallows teaming up against The Good Brothers
• Tyler Breeze vs Suge D hype and why it elevates everyone
• Innovate Wrestle Fest 26 card rundown and what stories matter most
• Crazo vs Cash Henning and the chaos factor
• Pineapple Express reunion tension in a mixed tag
• SummerSlam picks including Punk vs Cody and Roman vs Seth
• Matches we love plus booking that confuses us
• NetPro Battlegrounds memories and real crowd heat
• KCW Heat Wave hometown show details and why it matters
• More upcoming indie dates to keep on the calendar
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Welcome back.
SPEAKER_02Hey guys.
SPEAKER_05Hi. Hey, everybody got it. That worked pretty good. I wasn't ready. I know. I know you uh I wouldn't I wasn't expecting you to get there. Welcome back to the work or shoot podcast. Uh we've been we've been we've been not here.
SPEAKER_02No, no, why ain't we?
SPEAKER_05Um I don't have a reason.
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SPEAKER_05And there's there's no there's no reason. There's no reason wrestling was gout. The show had gout. The show itself had gout. But we got so much to talk about anyway that we haven't got to talk about. And so much going on with WB crap and all the all the indie stuff that's going on. And you know, Noah can't figure out how to put how to wear his hat. So if we've been dealing with that, and that's a whole thing. But this this weekend, this is this is this is Tuesday. We're watching this on a Tuesday. This weekend. I guess you're not you're probably not watching on Tuesday, but you can watch it whenever you're watching it. But this weekend. We we will be you get the point. Yeah. It's it's never mind. Uh this weekend we will be uh in Knoxville, Tennessee at WrestleWars. What's the end? Next gener No, I I know, I know it is because I had to keep searching it. Next next generation wrestling. We're we're gonna be there we're gonna be there Sunday night for that and get to see all kinds of good stuff.
SPEAKER_04Well, I mean, yeah, I hope. That'd be great. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, the conspiracy that we're talking about is there's no way that AJ Styles' son uh is wrestling with AJ Styles' uh best friend one of his one of his best friend's sons is wrestling against his best friend. I don't they have to he has to be there.
SPEAKER_02He has to. He has to be there. And that's how we that's how we just announced the match again.
SPEAKER_05AJ AJ Styles is there. Okay, I don't know if they caught what's the match again. Uh the match is AJ Styles son Avery's Avery Styles, right? So I wanna I want to say that it's just it's just Avery Styles. He happens to be AJ Styles' son because he's really good. Yes. And Doc Gallows' son. CJ. CJ Gallows.
SPEAKER_02Or in a tag team. The Sons of Bullet Club. Or Sons of the Bullet Club, I reckon, is their name.
SPEAKER_05We think the internet just did that.
SPEAKER_03Could be.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I don't I don't know if they said that.
SPEAKER_02That was hard though. Yeah, I like it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Or facing the Good Brothers.
SPEAKER_02So It's like maybe six, eight hours max from from where they live. He's gotta be there.
SPEAKER_01Where do they live?
SPEAKER_02Down in Georgia.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. Gainesville? Yeah, that's what I thought.
SPEAKER_02Marks. Somewhere in Georgia. He's billed from Gainesville.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. They say he's from Gainesville.
SPEAKER_02Well yeah, I just want to say this too. Avery, I I noticed Avery has been and AJ has just been down like 30 minutes up the road from my dad's in Georgia, down in Calhoun, Georgia. Calhoun. For NAWA wrestling. Avery's had some matches there and AJ interfered in that match. And saved uh Avery from uh from a attack.
SPEAKER_05Never know.
SPEAKER_02That's what I'm saying. What if you need to be at WrestleWars?
SPEAKER_05Oh, never mind. That's not a good. Go ahead. No, because it don't make sense. No, okay. You need to be at WrestleWars. Uh Tyler Breeze will also be there. The champ. They announced the match is him and Suge.
SPEAKER_03Sug D.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, Suge D. That match is gonna rock. Those guys are awesome.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Um you have the card?
SPEAKER_01I have I don't have we didn't Okay.
SPEAKER_05Nobody's prepared. We only had two weeks. Okay, too to be fair, you did tell me to pull up the innovate. Oh yeah, that's true. You want to go over innovate? We can go over innovate. Sorry.
SPEAKER_02So on the same day, same evening, is hour and a half down the road in Kingsport at the beautiful Bobby Eaton Arena. Yeah, the Innovate Wrestling Federation Wrestle Fest.
SPEAKER_05That's the purple brand, right?
SPEAKER_02Wrestle Fest Yes. Wrestle Fest 26, I reckon, is the WrestleFest 26. Which is that show's gonna be awesome.
SPEAKER_05It sucks on the same day. Yeah, I hate missing two Innovate shows.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Which is the first two of each brand's.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I know. Oops. Oops. To be fair, we did not want to be. We'll be there, guys. Okay, anything about it? Blazing hot and the there's a there's a bunch of we I mean, it's just like it happens. We watch a lot of wrestling, we can't make it to every show. Uh and we have to pick, and we have to go to the show that AJ Styles might be at.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so I mean, you know, it's nothing but love, guys. Alleged. It's nothing but love.
SPEAKER_05Alleged. Yeah, but you need to check that show out too. That's the ringside button. Innovate Federation Wrestle Fest. Wrestle Fest 26 uh in King Sport. Same time, bell time's like seven, I think. Yeah. Or is it bell time's eight? Seven or eight. I can't remember. It's right there. Oh, oh, oh, looking at it. It's awesome. Six. Lord. Oh my god. You'd had somebody two hours late for the show. I thought it was talking about NG Dub. All right, let's go.
SPEAKER_02What about them running on a Sunday, too? I know.
SPEAKER_05I'm surprised they're running on a Sunday. Especially, I mean, I guess it's not really in town.
SPEAKER_02Is uh Alliance running Saturdays, Federation runs Sundays most of them? Maybe.
SPEAKER_05Oh, that could be a thing. Or it could just be that all their talents working on Saturday somewhere. Could be that too. Well, most of their talent is working at NG Dub on Sunday. On I mean the pre-shows. I don't we don't know that. We don't know that.
SPEAKER_02They I mean we've we've only been to one show.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, they're having the show, so yeah, I don't know. Okay, you want to read the innovate card? Yeah. Uh first match that was just announced today, Crazo versus Cash Henning. Crazo and Cash. This started from the VIP fast pass where Cash Henning pushed Crazo into a pole and like apparently hurt his shoulder, and Cash has been trying to get in his head ever since, and he's got theories. He's joined the Illuminati and all that.
SPEAKER_02Crazo has the
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SPEAKER_02theories?
SPEAKER_05No, Cash Inning has theories that Krazo is joining the Illuminati.
SPEAKER_02Oh, damn, imagine that.
SPEAKER_05That'd be crazy. It would. I mean, I could see it.
SPEAKER_02Can I shoot here for a second? Do it. Um, the last time we saw Cash, which was in that fast pass scramble, dude was getting his ass like kicked by like three other guys in a chair, and dude was just like laughing, laughing through it, not selling a damn thing. Like he was smiling ear to fucking ear. Just eating it all. He literally just yeah, he's just just like he was getting fucking tickled.
SPEAKER_05Maybe it didn't hurt him.
SPEAKER_02I don't know, man. Tough guy.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Tough guy. What's that about, cash?
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah. You come on cash.
SPEAKER_05But I mean that match is gonna that match is Crazo's always throwing down. He got lost a tooth in a match the other day, I think. Did it happen in a match? Yeah. Lost a tooth. Had his debut at that place too.
SPEAKER_02Had it fixed back. Hell of a debut.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, so that match, um that match will be good. Is it just a normal match? Yeah, it's just normal.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_05Um next match is the Pineapple Express versus Caleb Courageous and Lizzie Cassidy.
SPEAKER_02Which is also the first time Pineapple Express is back together since Foshi turned hill.
SPEAKER_05Since Foshi. What's gonna happen? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I'm I don't know if they're like just together. One of them's heel and one of them's baby.
SPEAKER_02I don't know how that's gonna work, I guess. You would think they gotta split up during this match. This is like this has gotta be the end. I would think so. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I mean, I I didn't think they'd be back together anyway. No.
SPEAKER_02They threw me in for a that's interesting.
SPEAKER_05I like to see that. I'm interested to see it. Who are they facing? Um Caleb Courageous and Lizzie Cassidy. Oh yeah. So it's a mixed mixed tag.
SPEAKER_02One half mixed tag.
SPEAKER_05And Alex Monroe just faced her at NWA Cross Crossfire. Crossfire, I think. She can work. We need to catch a crossfire show.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I need to go to one.
SPEAKER_05You guys have been to one.
SPEAKER_02They're so good. Dude, that one I sent you.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah. In when is that? In What are you breaking, bro?
SPEAKER_02Nothing. July 31st, I think.
SPEAKER_05Nothing, they said. July 31st, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I don't know if I sent it to you, but I'm gonna have to.
SPEAKER_05It is next weekend. It's the weekend after we can after this one. The weekend after this one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's 10 days from now, actually.
SPEAKER_05I'm gone by I'm not here. There was another show I seen that was on July 31st. It might have been It's Friday night, right? It's Friday night before Battle at the Burden Brook. It's a Friday night. Because SummerSlam's first and second, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05So it's it's gotta be a Friday night. Showing a good idea not booking on SummerSlam.
SPEAKER_02Hardcore style with a deat match and parking lot bronze. Let's go.
SPEAKER_05Golly. Let's go. That's awesome. I'll be there for that. Are you gonna be going? Yeah, I'll be going. Damn. Yeah. It's fine. Clay go. Yeah, you guys take care of Clay. Yeah, he'll go. He'll go with you. And you guys are watching SummerSlam together anyway.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05So what's the next match? Um number one contender match for the grand championship. Still better, Austin Lane, Bobby Mitchell, Trayvon Ali, and Evan Golden. Yo, that match is gonna be awesome. Yeah. Those dudes rock. And Austin Lane, he's crazy good. Yeah, he's crazy good.
SPEAKER_02He was at crossfire too. He was the much better debut over cash.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. He's a hater. He's a hater. You're not wrong.
SPEAKER_02I'm just disappointing.
SPEAKER_05That match is gonna be great because Trayvon just throws people away. Oh yeah. Trayvon's probably gonna Evan Golden, I mean he's Golden's golden golden's golden.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. He's literally why don't he go buy Pony Boy?
SPEAKER_05Stay Golden Pony Boy. I don't know. I mean, I assume he does sometimes, maybe. Maybe. We've not seen him work a lot. Bobby Mitchell, too. Oh yeah, Bobby's awesome. Right, Mr. Robert. Sir Robert Mitchell.
SPEAKER_02Which is true. The thing is, too, is anyone that wins this, it'll be a great match against Moxie for that time. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_05No, it's Axon's.
SPEAKER_02Oh, the Grand Championship? Yeah. Oh shit. Not the American. The Grand. That'll still be a good match. Yeah. I hope it's Trayvon, though. Trayvon. I hope it's Trayvon.
SPEAKER_05We want to see that match.
SPEAKER_02Oh my God. I'm I'm I hate that we missed the that match with him and Troy Parker.
SPEAKER_05Troy, yeah. Troy was that match. I heard I watched I watched the highlights of that match. The match was awesome. Oh God. The match was great. Um yeah, I mean, I'd like to see Ollie win that match just because I want to see the the Axton fight.
SPEAKER_02Oh god, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. 100%. So next match, Clay. Um Wayne Moxie versus Andy Opton.
SPEAKER_02I think Optum was gonna beat him.
SPEAKER_05Me too.
SPEAKER_02Is it for the title? Yeah. Oh.
SPEAKER_05I think Optum was gonna be.
SPEAKER_02This would be his comeback.
SPEAKER_05Babyface. Because he talked to us. Love you, Andy. We made him laugh. We're Marks, yeah. We made him laugh. I made Andy laugh. I actually didn't think he could laugh for a little while.
SPEAKER_02I thought it was against his religion.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, for a little while I thought it was really rough.
SPEAKER_02Like, dude, he he's hard in. We're rooting for Moxie. He's hard in caveism.
SPEAKER_05We're love, we love Mox.
SPEAKER_02Tony sent me a TikTok the other or just today with uh his theme song like as the video on it, and I was just like.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, you can't can't help it. What's the next match, Clay? The main event match. Axton Ray versus Tim for the Grand Championship. Ooh.
unknownOh, I forgot about that.
SPEAKER_05Tim. I missed that match.
unknownFuck.
SPEAKER_02Match is gonna run. Uh T I M is uh okay. Yeah, that he's good. That last time we saw him, he was we thought he thought he died. Broker's C6 Corvette or something.
SPEAKER_05They said it was a shoot, but it seemed like it was.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That or he was working the fuck out of us.
SPEAKER_05Mark. Everybody, everybody, Mark. That match is gonna be great, though. Well, I mean, Axton's obviously gonna win, right? The factions got a match there, too, I believe. Oh yeah. How did I miss that?
SPEAKER_02In one job.
SPEAKER_05It wasn't even on there.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02Go to the factions page.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
unknownDamn.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_05Wow. I'm getting there. You're not. I'm watching it happen. You're not really. You realize you went back and forth. It's uh block B and Marquise Williams versus Jeff Baker, Big Scary, and Wild Bill. Block B is Bobby Kang and uh Kyle Brooks. Kyle Brooks. God, that's my favorite tactic of all time. Those boys. Those boys are funny. Those boys are funny. That's awesome. Didn't Baker train Kyle Brooks? I think when Kyle Brooks had a whole section of just Christian journeyman.
SPEAKER_03You missed it.
SPEAKER_05It was Kyle Brooks had a whole random section of Christian journeymen that were obsessed with him.
SPEAKER_02They were from Connecticut and they were yeah, and they were was that the show y'all was at? Yeah. Oh my god, I bet that was awesome, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_05Like they just came in because they were doing mission work and and they uh were like sitting opposite, and the first match they seen was the Kyle Brooks match, and they were like they were all over Kyle Brooks, like he like chanting, chanting like crazy. That's funny.
SPEAKER_02A church out in Connecticut just knows everything about you, like you and your and your your place and it's funny.
SPEAKER_05They're definitely they're definitely fans though. And during that fatal four-way when Habibi got took out, um everybody was chanting for Bobby to come in to be the replacement for Habibi. And it was so funny.
SPEAKER_02They're gonna get them over as over as well. Oh, yeah, you try not to cuss. Over as heaven.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that's nice of you. Yeah, that was cute.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I like that. That's awesome. But yeah, that is Sunday. You can get tickets at the door and you can get tickets on their Facebook page too. And check them out. They're every show that we've ever been to at NetPro Studios in general has been amazing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there's never been a bad show.
SPEAKER_05Innovate puts on a crazy good show. NetPro, all those boys, awesome, incredible. Wish we could be there for that show. But we have uh we have we've been booked on this NGW show forever. We gotta go to that. Yeah, we got prior community. We've spent bought tickets. Also, just want to point out this is off topic, but shout out to Josh Bishop and Jessica Roden for getting for getting SummerSlam tryouts. That's gonna be awesome, dude. Bishop is so good, and J-Rod is amazing. I've never seen her.
SPEAKER_02I watched her clips. We've never seen her in person. Really? I've seen her with uh with the two OVW shows I've been to. Fuck you. So, anyways, yeah, I've seen her twice, Clay. Uh, she's awesome.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that's we're but we'll catch her. We'll catch her too when she's on when she's on TV. We'll catch her. Sorry about that. Fuck. Yeah, we'll uh I'm really happy for Josh Bishop. We've watched Josh Bishop wrestle a bunch, and he's really good. So I like Shawn Michaels. Son of a bitch. We got him. We got him. I got you, I got you pizza tray. Caught me lacking. Yeah. Well, we gotta watch out. I played a lot of I play I played a lot of uh ICP Backyard Wrestling.
SPEAKER_03Is that right?
SPEAKER_05Yeah That game was good so fuck them up Rass Rastle Wars. You wanna go over WrestleWars now? We'll go over WrestleWars. Yeah NGW Rassel Wars, are you gonna be okay, big guy?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm alright. I'm alright.
unknownDon't hurt me.
SPEAKER_02Sailing, brother.
SPEAKER_05I actually think I actually think I was just getting you back for the attack the other day. For what? You attacked me one day.
SPEAKER_02No, I didn't.
SPEAKER_05You did. There's a clip. There's literally a clip.
SPEAKER_02There's literally a clip where you assaulted me. I don't
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SPEAKER_02allegedly. I don't know what you're talking about. It's not alleged. It happened on camera. I don't know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_05All right. Next generation wrestling. Uh if you haven't watched the interview with the owners, uh, go back two episodes, one episode. It was last episode. Yeah, it was. Okay, whatever. Go back last episode. Wrestling is so stupid. Wrestling is so stupid. Go back and listen to these boys. They are hilarious. We have the best time with them. Uh what's the what we got on that card, Clay? We have a triple threat match between Jeffrey John, Davy Vega, and Teriyaki. Ooh, I love teriyaki. I do too. I do too.
SPEAKER_02I love it with some rice.
SPEAKER_05I was gonna say I like chicken.
SPEAKER_02I do. God.
SPEAKER_05No, but he's he's he's he's so good though. Um we watched him at the at the in the last NGW show.
SPEAKER_02He was in that fatal four-wall. Yeah, I think it was a fatal four-wheel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn good match.
SPEAKER_05I'm excited about every match, honestly. Every every single match. Uh I can't wait. I'm excited. What's the next match? Next match is Cole Raderick and Trey Lamar for Rader for the NGW NGW Eastern States Championship. That matter. Uh Dre Lamar, is he the one that's got like the the blonde hair? Yeah. The blonde. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a black hat. Yeah, he's awesome. He's awesome.
SPEAKER_02His interest is really good.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Still can't get over shit.
SPEAKER_05That by the way, it's it's Trey Lamar.
SPEAKER_02What did I say?
SPEAKER_05Dre.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_05Eddie's gonna hear that and he's gonna make fun of you. Eddie, yeah. Eddie's gonna make fun of me. He's kicking his feet right now. It's okay. I can't. Yeah. Alright, I'm old. I can't get people's names right, okay?
SPEAKER_03Oh shit.
SPEAKER_05That title's pretty too, right? Yeah. All of the titles are pretty, be honest. All of them are. God, we're such stands for NGW. Ooh, I'm gonna slap the apron this time. Yeah, I'm sure I'm gonna we've got to slap the apron.
SPEAKER_02I wonder if we gotta bring our own streamer. Or if they or if they provide the.
SPEAKER_05I'm gonna get like the the ones that have like the we'll get the pop pop capital.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but let us know, Eddie. Let us know, Eddie. Do we need to bring our own fireworks or yeah?
SPEAKER_05I got bottle rockets.
SPEAKER_02A bunch of bottle rockets on the porch. I got some M40s up out in the closet. We really do. We really do have a bunch of M40s outside.
SPEAKER_05Alright, Clay. Next match is Korean Joy versus um Ravenave. Ooh, you got through it. Yeah. Ravina Vay, I'm not gonna pretend like I know about these wrestlers. We've seen Ravena. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I see the picture. I was like, I recognize Ravina. We haven't seen it's Korean Joy's debut. Debut, yeah. Nice. Okay. Awesome. That match will be good. They're actually like their women's wrestling there is really good. Yeah. All their wrestling there is really good. All their wrestling's good, and particularly like they have they have an actual women's division and women's talent. It's very cool. Um next match is Aaron Wade and Fake for the N NG. It's Facade.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's Facade.
SPEAKER_05It's okay. It's not a word you see all the time.
SPEAKER_02No, I just I'll forgive you on it. He he taught me how to pronounce that word, right? He taught you how? No, Facade did.
SPEAKER_05Oh, okay. For the NGW Twitter. NGW Tennessee Championship. The his title. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And it's a uh no DQ or something, I reckon.
SPEAKER_05Ninja Warfare or something. Oh, the Neon Ninja's gonna jump from the ceiling again. This is a dude that we were lost our mind over jumping from the ceiling.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_05It was like watching uh Hartsook jump from the at the trampoline park. Yeah, from the balcony.
SPEAKER_02Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god, that match is gonna be awesome, dude. Facade is great. He used to tag with uh Um um um Kinkade. Kinkade. They were called It was a real bad thing. They were called something awesome. Did you see that, Clay? That Jason Kincaid and Facade were a tag team? No. Yeah. Oh my yeah, that rocks. Lot of hopping and flipping and flopping and fluin.
SPEAKER_02Probably a lot of ninja and wizard shit.
SPEAKER_05A lot of ninja wizard shit. Yeah, ninja wizard shit. Why are they like they're playing DD? Yeah. Okay. Next match is Thomas Heim.
SPEAKER_02Well, it was.
SPEAKER_05Huh?
SPEAKER_02Was. It was.
SPEAKER_05Oh. It'll be a match. The next match was Thomas Heim and Isaiah Moore. But unfortunately, Isaiah Moore took time off of wrestling, which means they have to vacate the titles. And it was versus Twist and Flip. I assume that Twist and Flip will still have a match for the titles.
SPEAKER_02I think that they heard we was coming back and Haim got scared after flipping my hat off my head.
SPEAKER_05That's what I think probably happened, though.
SPEAKER_02But Haim's putting it on more, like the you know, making it seem like it's a him thing.
SPEAKER_05What if what if Haim is there though? Well then I guess we'll just figure out then. He has a acting partner.
SPEAKER_02Well then I guess we'll just we'll figure that out. We'll cross our bridge when we get there. And it's your mom. Could be.
SPEAKER_05It should be at the camper, I'd say. Should be right down the road there. Be alright. Yeah, I don't know what'll happen there. I'm interested to see what those boys are gonna do. They write so good though, so I'm I'm not I I imagine they're gonna do something awesome.
SPEAKER_02What if this is all part of the plan, anyways? What if we're just yeah, we could the lost boys come back? Hey, what? What if the lost boys come back and get their titles at the time? You remember the lost boys? The ones that they lost their titles to Thomas and the dude turned on and they'll come back? Who is who is awesome? I'd love to see him come back.
SPEAKER_05I mean we've got a lot of retirement matches. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02We really do. And it's like and it's always the first show. It's always the first show that like, other than Wayne, but first show we went to of innovate, it was Tony's uh retirement match.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah. Oh yeah, that's right. It was?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, me and your dad went. Oh yeah, you weren't there. You don't work here. Yeah, you went born yet.
SPEAKER_05What's that next match? Umge versus breeze. Should is so good.
SPEAKER_02God Eddie's having a fucking field day. This show's so stupid, dude.
SPEAKER_05This show's so stupid. Don't even watch this. Don't watch it, don't listen to it. It's it's so dumb. It's so Tyler Breezy.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god.
SPEAKER_05I dropped the Tyler Breeze figure behind the bed. I gotta get it before it floods. He's having a time of his life. Gosh, I'm sorry, wrestlers that we've we've that we're like this. We respect you. We just don't know your name. Listen, that mat this match is gonna be awesome, right? Tyler Brees is obviously WWE level talent. Like he's he's as good as anybody you're gonna see. And and everybody who wrestles him elevates to his level anyway, just because he's that good. And Suge is already that good anyway. So that's gonna be, I mean, it's gonna be awesome.
SPEAKER_02And and that we know of he's getting his one-on-one rematch.
SPEAKER_05Right. Well, that we know of.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That we know of. That we know of. That we know of. What if it's AJ Styles? Let's make it.
SPEAKER_05Whoa, look, whoa! Give me a take this off here, put it on you here.
SPEAKER_02Just saying, man.
SPEAKER_05Boy's wearing his bullet club shirt. He's standing out, yeah. That's right. Bullet club shirt all the time. You gonna wear that down there?
SPEAKER_02It's either this or the t-shirt. I might make it a cutoff. I ain't decided yet.
SPEAKER_05Every shirt. Hey, I don't know if you can tell about him or not, but he makes all his shirts in the cutoffs. I like my cutoffs. Uh it's nobody could figure it out about you. Did you remember that AJ Style shirt you wore and you got made fun of?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because dude said it was like a kid's shirt or some shit.
SPEAKER_05Pretty funny.
SPEAKER_02He probably that that's probably the only video dude's ever seen of us, too. Fuck you, guy.
SPEAKER_05This show used to be PG.
SPEAKER_02And to point it out too, I've had that shirt since I was a kid. Just like eighth grade.
SPEAKER_05The PG podcast. You were a kid, what, like two years ago? Yeah. Yeah. The PG podcast was the last one. You're the last one.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_05I don't know if you got my. I did. Clay. I did. I just thought it was. I understood. Sorry, guys. We've been muted this whole time. What? I'm just kidding. Dude. That was awesome. All right. Do you want to go to SummerSlam? There's one more man. Oh. I thought that was the main event. The Good Brothers versus Oh yeah, never mind. Avery Styles and CJ Gallows. We talked about it earlier, so I just I forgot that we hadn't talked about it yet. So yeah, that I mean, you you know how we feel about it. I mean the matches so the match is gonna be good anyway. Like I think the match is gonna be awesome anyway.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. So no matter if anybody shows up or not. We need to try to get one of them on on the podcast.
SPEAKER_05One of whi the kids? Any of them. The kids are likely to do it, I think.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, for sure. We'll do it. I mean we'll throw it out to the Good Brothers, too.
SPEAKER_05Sounds good.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05We're there. We'll make them let them all come on the podcast. I guess. Wow. Elevated. Not even sure he's gonna be there. What if we can get him interviewed? I think we can.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02Optimism, baby.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I know. It's disgusting.
SPEAKER_01So SummerSlam. Punk. Cody.
SPEAKER_05Brock. Oba. Uh huh. Cell in a hell. Yeah. Yeah. Brock and Oba is gonna be awesome. With the Danhousen Hell's Dom.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I actually think that match is gonna rock.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, me too. People's talking like
SummerSlam Card Picks And Hot Takes
SPEAKER_02Doms get like, you know, Dom's lost his push. Like, dude, you're you're working with the hottest guy that's gonna be.
SPEAKER_05He's literally more over than everybody else in the company. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02He's like, But even if he did like did lose his push, going against Danhausen, you were like, that's the other, that's the hottest guy in the company. They're also wrong. So that's fine. It's also the IWC.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Hush it up.
SPEAKER_04Hush it up.
SPEAKER_05You said you pulled the card up? Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh.
SPEAKER_05You got it. Gunther versus Nick Aldous.
SPEAKER_02That is gonna rock out here. Let's go. Nick back. I I want to say this too. People keep talking about Nick as Magnus and TNA. And I don't really understand it because that's so ass backwards. This work as Nick Aldous. Like as the NWA champion and post-TNA is so much better. Like at Yeah, it's way better. Well, and I ain't hating on Magnus, but like But it's his TNA work's not what he's known for, though, right? He's known for his indie his indie stuff. I mean, like Well, I don't know, but the TNA was before. Well, I guess he got his name out. Yeah, it just feels like I know him for the NWA belt. Yeah. Like I knew him from TNA, so maybe I'm answering my own my own argument.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, you you yeah, you you made an argument and then I I like accepted it and then you countered it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I'm not even sure what happened just now.
SPEAKER_02I don't either. What I'm trying to say is I don't know how the Magnus work over overpowers the Altis work.
SPEAKER_05Either way. Yeah. Match is gonna be good.
SPEAKER_02It's gonna be awesome.
SPEAKER_05Well, uh, what do you think wins that match?
SPEAKER_02That's a really good question.
SPEAKER_05I'm can I'm I think it'd be like some sort of interference setting up for something else, right?
SPEAKER_02Maybe Adam Pearson gets involved.
SPEAKER_05No, I don't know if Pierce can wrestle anymore.
SPEAKER_02That sets up Pierce and Aldis for Mark.
SPEAKER_05Dragon Lee.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um I really don't know. I don't either. But if Aldis wins, what would you think?
SPEAKER_05I think Aldis winning would be crazy.
SPEAKER_02But if he did, though, like you would think that it would mean it would have to continue somehow.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, right, right, right. I think Aldous winning would be crazy, though. That'd be crazy. I'm not a booker, though. Who do you think is gonna win Danhausen Dom? I think Danhausen's gonna win that match. Yeah. Because I think Dom can always take the pin. I don't think it matters. Yeah. Yeah. Um, next match is women's Pinta versus Chad Gable. That is gonna rock. I love chain wrestling. We're gonna watch so much train wrestling that match. You'll be gone. Flips and flops, and I'm still gonna watch it. Flips and flops and floops and German suplexes and yeah, that match is gonna be great. Destroyers. Oh god, that match is gonna be great. Yeah. The destroyers are gonna be great that match, too. I think Gable wins. You think Gable wins? I think Gable wins. I think he needs to. I think Gable wins because you're gonna put Pinta in the world title competition. Because you slap that on him.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_05He's over. You spend $5,000 in Pyro every show for him, you need to put the title on him. Who next, Clay? Um, the match I'm least excited for, the Usos and Fatu versus Royce Keyes, LA Knight, and Solo Sakoa. That sucks. And I seen a take today that said, why would you so I'm not hating on Royce Keyes. I think he's great, but it was like, why would you hire Royce Keyes? Like, why would you hire Royce Keyes? He's 41. You're you're the you're releasing people who are older and only pushing people who are younger. And it's like and you hire Royce Keys to come in and take a spot at SummerSlam when it it should just be like Javon or somebody.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. No, that's real.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I mean, it just don't make any sense, I guess. But he's good. And this match just doesn't make any sense. This match doesn't make any sense to me. I don't understand what they're doing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I really don't either.
SPEAKER_05I mean it's not bloodline.
SPEAKER_02It's it's LA Knight, Royce, and solo, right? Yeah. I mean, fuck, LA's been feuding with them for the last five years. He's really over right now. He is, he always will be. I love LA. Like I ain't hating on LA, but Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_05I think um let him let him push for one of the big ones.
SPEAKER_02Please. I mean that'd be good too. Hell at least give him the money in the bank. That match ends.
SPEAKER_05I don't know. I don't care about this match. I hate I really that really, really sucks, right? And that really shows that really says something that shows your true colors. Well, I mean, it really says something, don't it? That that like we don't care about the FaToo match. You know what I mean? And like, and and he's he's awesome, but like, bro, we're just we're so burnt out on the Usos, I think.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02My honestly, I wouldn't even say I'm burnt out on the Usos, because I I'm liking the work going on right now, but this match just really don't make no sense.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I don't I think it's because like it feels like to sell tickets you just slapped everybody in a match.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you just throw some shit together. It's like, oh well they ain't they ain't been with his they ain't you know mess with his little brother their little brother in a while with them in a say in a program.
SPEAKER_05When you could when you could just have a straight LA Knight versus Fa 2 match. Like, I don't understand that's clean and beautiful. I don't understand why Royce Keyes is in it. That's that that's confusing.
SPEAKER_02Didn't Fa2 and LA fight each other at summer at a SummerSlam?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, they fought for the U.S. title. That's what I thought.
SPEAKER_02Oh, they should fight again.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, true, yeah. True.
SPEAKER_02They're awesome.
SPEAKER_05But they should fight again. I mean, I understand why Royce is Royce Keyes is in it, but like you know, why was he picked to be the backup?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But which at the same time though, my god, they they had to start using them for something. Is there a women's match now? Yeah.
SPEAKER_05What is it? Liv Morgan and E.O. Sky.
SPEAKER_04Oh that's gonna rock.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04The match's gonna be awesome. And then I or die. That's how I feel.
SPEAKER_05And then I'm guessing somebody has to get that women's title. Oh, Rhea is. Oh, is that gonna be is that gonna be one of the matches? I mean it has to be probably not too. It's a it's like a six. Well, I mean, but the the qualifiers are they were last night and Friday. I I didn't watch. And Monday. Right. So I think the next four shows. I mean, like last night, Friday, Monday, Friday.
SPEAKER_02Who are they?
SPEAKER_05The go home show will be the qualifier match. The last one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm sure. Who are they next week?
SPEAKER_05No, I have no idea. I have no idea. I'll look it up after. Yeah, I could probably tell you, I mean, like off the top of my head, who's in it. Oh, no, I do know two. Jake Cargill and Tiffany Stratton. Uh well, that's probably the two they're gonna be fighting in the finals. Yeah. Like for it. No, they're already in the match. In what match? They're in the liner match already. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, oh, it's I get you. I understand what it is. Yeah. Doesn't Tiffy have a title? Yeah. Tiffy 2 titles is hot, though. US. US, yeah. Oh shit. It's those titles they they um they made out of boredom. And then just didn't push anybody with them. They they made them fall off the face of the earth. They gave lyre. They gave liar that inner the intercontinental and then then and then gave her the worst push ever. Dude. And now who has it? Uh who has the Becky. Becky has an inter are you sure? No. No. I have no idea who has it. Soul has it. Yeah, soul has it. Soul has always been. Yeah. Why didn't we know that? I don't. We did. We just had to get there. Can we talk about Lyra or Bailey busting Lyra's nose? Dude. Work or shoot. Dude. Work or shoot. Bailey straight forearming Lyra in the mouth. And just not even, there wasn't dodging. There wasn't like it didn't look like an accident. No. It looked like she looked at her and went, you bitch.
SPEAKER_02What wonder what from? Wonder if it was did Lyra.
SPEAKER_05That's I was thinking she messed up in the ring or something. You know what? That's a heavy receipt, though. So it um that's why I said it always feels like an accident because that's you a receipt's not usually that heavy. No, or maybe something happened backstage. She would have slapped her heart and something. I mean, it wouldn't have been. I still it's still rare for somebody to break somebody's nose, like just I mean, I I said she didn't do it on purpose. I think I think she was being stiff. I don't think she meant to break her nose, but I think she was being stiff. I don't I guess I don't know that she broke her nose, but I I think if you get hit in the nose and immediately gushes the blood for the rest of the match, I think you probably broke her nose.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. No, that's that's valid.
SPEAKER_05Also, uh, are you pro Lyra Hobo or or not? She dresses like a hobo now.
SPEAKER_04She's like uh Billy Kidman.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I mean, I guess I don't hate it, but I don't hate it.
SPEAKER_05I just whatever.
SPEAKER_02Okay, just it was like over the course of seven days, she went out and tried crack.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, she she turned into a crackhead over seven days. Oh my gosh. Also, I I don't want to talk about it, but I think about two. Okay. We got new women's tag champs, and it was one of the worst women's matches. It was it was a bad, bad, bad match. Who won? The last the not last um Fatal Influence. Fatal Influence. Was this last night? No. Saturday night's main event. Saturday night main event, yeah. Pretty good event. Wasn't bad. I didn't even want to. The ending on that match was horrible. It was really awful. It was really, really, really bad. Like, and I actually like a lot of them, but that that match was not good. And and it was so anticlimactic is the way it ended.
SPEAKER_03Bo.
SPEAKER_05Awful.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I didn't watch none of that. It's okay.
SPEAKER_05You didn't miss anything. I mean, the event was okay. There was some cool stuff that happened.
SPEAKER_02It was a lot of shit with the Knicks, I wasn't it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. You think uh just the Knicks wrestling show?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you think Jalen Brunson's gonna wrestle?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. What do you think about Tom Brady possibly wrestling?
SPEAKER_05No way. No. There's just no way. We don't need that. No. That's just for that's just for Logan Paul Heat, because there's no way he's gonna wrestle.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05He might hit him like with a chair or something at SummerSlam. Like John. Is he in SummerSlam? No.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02He's hurt. He'll be like he'll be like Logan's hurt?
SPEAKER_05He tore a tricep, member. Oh, Roy, Roy, Roy. I forgot. Tom Brady. He's a boy that told him he comes back from WrestleMania, he'd get hit with a chair by Tom Brady.
SPEAKER_02Tom Brady's like John Stewart at SummerSlam 2015. Dude. Dude, I hated that son of a bitch for hitting Cena with that chair. Forget about that. Oh my god. Oh yeah. Drayton Tiffany is in it. Yeah, John Stewart gained a hater and a half for me at that SummerSlam. And Rollins beat him for the U.S. title and the WE title. Witle. In the white and gold gear.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That gear's beautiful though. It really is.
SPEAKER_05So SummerSlam. Is the card not filled out though, right? Like it's not done yet. There should be like two more matches. Two more matches, right? One each night, I think. I think there's one left for each night. Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05So I still have more matches to go over. Oh, okay. Go ahead. CM Punk versus Cody Rhodes. Who do you want to win that? Who do you want to win that match, Clay?
SPEAKER_02CM Punk. Yeah, I would prefer Punk to Retain. What do you think is going to happen, Noah? I pray to God Cody turns heel.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that's what we've been talking at. How many episodes? This is like the 67th episode of this podcast, and we've been waiting for Cody to turn heel the whole time.
SPEAKER_02This is our new segment of uh is Cody gonna turn heel.
SPEAKER_05Is Cody Hill today? Is Cody Hill today? As soon as we see Brandy, I'm like he'll as soon as we see her, I think he's a heel.
SPEAKER_02Who the hell told you it was open mic night, bitch.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yeah. Um, next match. She's entertaining, yeah. Very the ruler versus the beast in cell. I think that match is going on. They're definitely not getting on top of it. Just so you know, nobody gets on top of it anymore. Yeah. They don't do it. They ain't done it in like four hell in the cells.
SPEAKER_02No, I think Shae McMahon was the last one.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, they don't get on top of it no more. And he almost died. He almost dies every time he gets in the ring.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05He like blows out something.
SPEAKER_03He tore a quad and he quit.
SPEAKER_05He tore quads. Yeah. Him and his dad both have torn quads in the ring at the same time.
SPEAKER_02At one of the one of the big four pay-per-views.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's wild.
SPEAKER_03Um talk about this double Vince.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Well, it's, you know, there's more talk about Vince again because of that lawsuit. Yeah. Because the lawsuit got dropped. He paid her off. She just he he he he buried her in lawyers. That's what rich people do to people who aren't rich. What if it was? Bury them in lawyers.
SPEAKER_02That's just a PR stunt.
SPEAKER_05Which one was a PR stunt? Him doing that to get over?
SPEAKER_02All of this.
SPEAKER_05You think Vince is just Vince. Vince uh paid that girl to accuse him of sexual assault to get over.
SPEAKER_02It's Vince.
SPEAKER_05He's K fab as hell, then. Because I mean it maybe. Because he'd been where he'd been playing that gimmick his whole life.
SPEAKER_02Because I mean it hit no and Vince, like he. He wanted the heat.
SPEAKER_05Work a shoot, baby. Yawn count. Three. No, that's one. Is that just one? Alright, I'm gonna hit you at the bottle if you do another one. Okay.
SPEAKER_02We need to count them if there's more. Like on the screen.
SPEAKER_05We absolutely will count them on the screen. I mean, there's gonna be more. Just say the word yawn. And the final match of the SummerSlam card is Roman Reigns versus Seth freaking Rollins.
SPEAKER_01I actually don't know who wins this match. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I'm excited for it. I mean, I'm people I've seen people kind of hating on it too, but I'm excited for this match.
SPEAKER_05They're wrong. Is that night one main event? Or not two?
SPEAKER_02Probably not two.
SPEAKER_01No, I think Cody Punk's not two. I don't know. I feel like really?
SPEAKER_02Cody Punk's like Hogan and Andre. But they're just now putting some conflict with between them.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. The build with Seth and Roman is years and years.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and they've been building it at least since the start of the road to SummerSlam.
SPEAKER_01I feel like that's like the match of the show. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's all for Seth Cord.
SPEAKER_05Um I would like to see Roman win.
SPEAKER_01I think Seth's gonna win.
SPEAKER_05Really? I think Seth might win.
SPEAKER_02That would be wild.
SPEAKER_05Is Mox coming back?
SPEAKER_02No, no. That's an absurd thing to say, Mark. It as as much as everyone else would love it. That's one of my when people I'm talking to wrestling fans in the wild and they're like, I think Mox is gonna return, and I'm just like, just be quiet, man.
SPEAKER_04They're not. It's not he he can't. He can't.
SPEAKER_02Legally, he does he cannot. You can drink.
SPEAKER_05Uh we haven't talked about the previous NetPro show.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02The Battlegrounds.
SPEAKER_05Battlegrounds. Fuck Nick Blackwell.
SPEAKER_02Fuck that guy. I wasn't even there, but fuck Nick Blackwell.
SPEAKER_05What they said. Nick Blackwell uh champ. You know how I know who's gonna win the title? His whole family was there. His whole family was there? Yeah. Yeah. Keep Cafe Life, Clay. Worker shoot.
SPEAKER_02Worker shoot. Nick's mama was spoiling everything in the crowd free shit. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05She's like, hey, y'all gotta be here tonight
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SPEAKER_05for this shit. Thanks, Mama. Thanks, Mama.
SPEAKER_02She's a hard ass though, actually. I love that woman.
SPEAKER_05Hey, and Clay, you know who don't like you a bit? I do. Braxton Cain. I don't like him a bit.
SPEAKER_02Hey, air your air your grievances, dude. I'm always I'm always the one airing grievances. Air yours.
SPEAKER_05Braxton Kane. What is your handcuff? Right here.
SPEAKER_03Weak ass handcuff.
SPEAKER_05Threw these at me. And her BB. Shirt. He threw a baby shirt at me too. And no, I didn't.
unknownDamn.
SPEAKER_03I didn't know he threw a baby shirt at you.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Why'd you keep it? Right at my face. That's real low. That's low as a low. It's it's beneath him. It's beneath him. I talked trash to clay. He just talked trash to Clay on Facebook too. Yeah. And I hope he's an NG dub. I really do. And I'm bringing these with me. If he's there, I'm saying something too.
SPEAKER_02That's if you don't see him pr before then.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, if if I see him before then.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05On side, he said. Hey, uh, when did Matt Cardano fall over?
SPEAKER_02Probably when you Oh he took his glasses off. He fucking cheap shot at me.
SPEAKER_05Because we we talked on Facebook. Nobody likes a bitch. And he's I just don't like him.
SPEAKER_02Just don't like him. Man, no, that's valid. No, I get it, man. I get it.
SPEAKER_05I had suspicions from first time I talked to him.
SPEAKER_02You're right. We seen him in the ring a couple times. Yeah, we talked, we talked to him after you know, after a show or two.
SPEAKER_05Those glasses, those sunglasses he wore were suspect.
SPEAKER_02You saw right through the bull, you saw right through the bullshit, didn't you?
SPEAKER_05Hey. Um that show, that show was a lot of fun. It was. We roasted. We cooked. It was a million degrees in there. But it was so much fun. I don't know if you can tell by that picture crazy posted. Yeah, yeah, crazy posted picture. All of us are just soaked in wet sweat. Everybody was cooked in there. It was awesome though. They opened the doors and it started pouring the rain.
SPEAKER_02God, but it made it even worse.
SPEAKER_05Like, let's go.
SPEAKER_02God.
SPEAKER_05Uh uh in other indie news, uh, Gen Z has 1600 titles. Gen Z won two titles.
SPEAKER_02Gen Z is title maxim.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02That boy, that boy is putting in the work, and we gotta go see our boy. Dude, he's been hitting like these last few weeks, he's been running the road. That's awesome. Dude, he's been working, working, working. Yeah. Those fair shows looked awesome.
SPEAKER_05And it's noticed too. People see him. Like he's on everybody's list.
SPEAKER_02Did you see the tran the like that transformation post of him? Oh, yeah. Like last year. They was looking good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I told him, I told him it's like, it's because he, you know. And it's noticed. He put the work in, and now he's he's there. He's one of the best ones.
SPEAKER_02He had posted on Snap one day, hitting like some tri extensions. Now it's like you gotta hit them bitches till failure.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. His moves look crisp too. Every time I watch one of his highlights. They read like they always have. Yeah. It looks really good. Um KCW Clay. KC Dub. Heat Wave. August 8th. Um you heard. It's our hometown show. At the Rec Center. Ledger County. Letcher County. Whitesburg. Trying to pull up the card. Whitesburg, Kentucky. Ledger County Rec Center. August 8th. KCW. Kentucky Championship Wrestling.
KCW Heat Wave Hometown Hype
SPEAKER_05Heat Wave. Your champion.
SPEAKER_02Oh hell yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, your champion will be there. The good doctor. Go by the good doctor? Huh? What's he go by?
SPEAKER_04The good doctor.
SPEAKER_05The good doctor, right? Also.
SPEAKER_02I need to schedule an appointment with him.
SPEAKER_05Back, Bub. Our boy RT3 making his ICW. RT3.
SPEAKER_02RT3. RT3. What does the faction think about RT3?
SPEAKER_05They love Roy. I think that, yeah.
SPEAKER_02They love Roy. They love Roy. Fuck their best friend.
SPEAKER_05Roy's their best friend. They love Roy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Roy and the faction are like. Great dude. Fantastic dude. Josephon Schmidt will be in action. Oh, is Joseph on Schmidt at KC Dub? Yeah. I didn't know that they I didn't know that they're.
SPEAKER_02Did you see his promo? His promo was.
SPEAKER_05No, I need to go watch it. I didn't see it. Please go on. They dropped off my algorithm or something, dude. I don't know what happened. Yeah, no, yeah. Please go on. I gotta go. Oh my god, let's go. I love the heat. If you don't know this dude, this dude has the heat because his gimmick is about 60%. What? I don't wait. Hold on. Um can we say that word? I don't think we can. We're gonna have to bleep that out. Um yeah, he's yeah. He's of of German descent. Yeah. Yeah, his his he's like von Erich's gimmick, but Fritz von Erich. Fritz von Erich's gimmick. That's who he's like. But it's controversial, but it gets heat. And I kind of dig it. I hate to say that. I hate to say it because I know a lot of people have different opinions on it, but I'm like, I really want you to get heat, not just like heat. And if he's gonna offend everybody and that's how he gets heat, pour it to it. Maybe we're there, bro. Maybe we're there, you know. I don't know. It's people been doing it for years, man. That's why the I mean, all the I mean, the Russians and there's Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02Any any anti-American There's tons.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, Abdullah the Butcher. Wildfire's been running the Russians for fucking 35 years now.
SPEAKER_05Abdullah the Butcher's, you know, infamous for that. The Sheik.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, the Sheik. Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Not the iron one, the the other one, the one that burnt Terry Funk up.
SPEAKER_02The original.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. And Buzz Saw Night returns.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Dude, you see he lost his EWA title? I did see that. You see the finish to it? Yeah, it was awesome though. It was. Did we need to catch an EWA show? Yeah. Richmond usually. Danville. Yeah, Danville. Danville, yeah.
SPEAKER_05They live there now, right? Yeah. We need to go. We need to go to that. We need to go there. Absolutely. We'll holler at night and we'll go to that. That's awesome. He's going to be in Whitesburg, though. That's going to be so much fun.
SPEAKER_02Be happy to see him again. Hate that he missed the first Whitesburg show.
SPEAKER_05Page come with him?
SPEAKER_02I'm sure. Sky. Clay's going to be Clay's helping set up.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, Clay will be there early. I really hope I can.
SPEAKER_02I hope you can.
SPEAKER_05We'll go to Juggalo Championship Wrestling. Dude, I would love to go to a JC Dub show. Love to go to JC Dub show. I think she get us in there. I actually can't find much more. On Heat Wave? Yeah. Well, the card is subject to change. Honestly, there's been some injuries and there's been some people have to drop out of the shows. And um there's so I think I'm guessing the inaugural tag champs will be in action. The inaugural tag champs. Yeah. Well, they're gonna they're gonna be there. Uh Adam Newsom and Kobe Carmichael. Our boy Kobe Carmichael.
SPEAKER_02Shout out uh better late than never.
SPEAKER_05They're yeah, they're gonna be there. Uh they're getting that tag division started, so I wonder who they're gonna be wrestling. They call somebody in, but it's gonna be good.
SPEAKER_03I hope they do.
SPEAKER_05It'll be fun. That show's gonna be awesome. We're really excited about that show, August 8th. Get tickets on you can get them on their website. They still got I think they still got golden uh I know they still have golden tickets available, and the golden tickets are awesome. You see the tour they give the people with the golden tickets, man.
SPEAKER_02They also updated them like during intermission. You'll get to get in the ring and get a picture. Oh, yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_05That's right. You get to get in the ring.
SPEAKER_02By God, that's the Bo Tacket experience, man. Yeah, I see it's I don't care what Bobby has to say about Bo, honestly.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Bobby just needs to shut his damn mouth.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You continue though. That's okay. I know you got I know you and Bobby got heat. I don't like that guy. He's just keep his.
SPEAKER_04He used to be a nice guy.
SPEAKER_02He used to be, used to like him. He was on there posting against uh Smith on his promo. Oh, okay. Like he ain't just as bad as I'm gonna be. I was gonna say that's that's the pot in the kettle. He's just such a hypocrite, dude. Two faces hell, I've realized.
SPEAKER_05Is it fair to assume Mercy will be there? I would hope. I would think Mercy'd be calling the in-ring.
SPEAKER_03You should be calling the yeah.
SPEAKER_05Just hopefully mercy will be there. And then I mean, obviously land in hell. And then we're gonna get some new talent, it seems like, that we haven't had before. So that show is gonna be great. If you haven't seen a KCW show, you need to go check out a KCW show because I there's no, it's it's it's remarkable that the product is.
SPEAKER_02Where the hell are you at?
SPEAKER_05And we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna sell out that gym. It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be a packed house. It's gonna be a good time. Okay, what else we got? Uh Rising Star Showdown Back to School Bash.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I reckon Crazy's got that put together.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah, I seen that.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. I think that's August 1st.
SPEAKER_05I can find the August 1st. It is August 1st. I seen that because I said I was gonna be gone.
SPEAKER_01Bless you. Thank you. I'm trying to find a card on that.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay. I'm not sure if there's really like a full card post.
SPEAKER_05Yeah,
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SPEAKER_05I don't know if he's done that yet or not, but but I mean, it's gonna have a lot of Net Pro dudes. Oh, yeah. And where's it at? Is it at NetPro? Yeah, it's at NetPro. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05That like I said, another Net Pro show. NetPro's awesome. Everything NetPro does is good.
SPEAKER_02Always doing working for the community as well.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and and the the charity, always doing charity stuff. I think there's one match announced. What is it? BB versus Marquise Williams. Oh yeah, I seen that. That was how BB just shared that today. That's gonna be so good. Those two dudes rock. BB's BB's amazing and Marquise. We've been a fan of Marquise since we like seen him caught him at like the end of training, the end of training. Wow, end of training and things. Wasn't he the one that took that? One wing and angel from Crash?
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_05Almost he almost died.
SPEAKER_02He almost died, yeah.
SPEAKER_05No, I think he just sold.
SPEAKER_02I think he sold really good, but he tucked at the perfect time. Yeah, I think we almost witnessed a murder.
SPEAKER_05Beautiful. I hope he don't end up like Braxton Kane. Um talent announcement the big guns will be there. The big guns. Hell yeah. Love those boys. Hey, you ever see anybody make money like they make money getting slapped?
SPEAKER_02Smart guys.
SPEAKER_05They they made money the other night. They made more money. Yeah. And we were standing outside with uh I don't remember what some wrestler was standing outside with and said, uh, you bad you didn't come up with the idea first? Yeah. Yes. Morgan Morgan Wallen will be there. Nice. Morgan Wallin in action champ, new champ, Morgan Wallen. We know he's gonna be there. Iseko will be there. I like him. He's improving. I like him. It's a good matches. Zen Fortune will be there. Zen Fortune's working. He's gonna be so mad that we're not there.
SPEAKER_02I want to watch Zen so bad.
SPEAKER_05You guys go.
SPEAKER_02We need to.
SPEAKER_05You guys should go. Yeah. It's only Friday night. Right? No, it's it's the same day as it's SummerSlam.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Is it a day show or evening? I can't say how long. It's it's SummerSlam.
SPEAKER_05That's you know, whatever. Some people come out too. A lot of those people don't watch, a lot of those people do not watch uh WWE. True. That's very true, too. Yeah, so uh that was we had a lot to talk about. Um there's more. We got a lot. What what we got? Uh just came back to wrestling, actually. Oh, yeah. Sky Ven.
SPEAKER_02Sky Evan.
SPEAKER_05Oh, Sky Evan. Sky Evan. Yeah, Sky Evan, yeah. Yeah, it does the the splash, does the 450. Yeah. You good? You comfortable? I'm I'm good. And then Crazo will be there. That's like that's like a nothing.
SPEAKER_02That was some sassy on that crazo.
SPEAKER_05Crashed on you. And Crashed Don Hugh.
SPEAKER_04Can't help it.
SPEAKER_05Can't believe it. And that's it. It's gonna be his own show. I can't believe it. I'm so happy. Shocked. I'm so glad Zen Fortune's gonna be there.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02I wonder what they're gonna have a man.
SPEAKER_05Hardcore match. Awesome. Pretty obviously he's gonna hit somebody with the refrigerator.
SPEAKER_02The dare program match, and it's just oh no. Just a death match.
SPEAKER_05That's gonna be awesome. That show will be fun. I hope somebody can go to that though. Yes. I mean, I guess it's SummerSlam, so dual watch it. I don't know. We'll figure it out. Either way, all kinds of indie wrestling coming up. And you can watch a show every weekend from now to Christmas if you want to. Because there's a lot of wrestling coming up. We got a lot on the calendar, a lot we're gonna go to, catch us a lot of places. Uh be doing a lot of things. The clay's getting ready to go back to school and start sports. We're gonna go to a bunch of wrestling shows without him. Sadly. He's about to quit all sports, just go to wrestling shows.
SPEAKER_02We've talked about it all. We've talked about it for the last two years. Yeah, just I ain't I ain't gonna hear it unless you're gonna do it.
SPEAKER_05Braxton came to do it.
SPEAKER_02Braxton probably would drop everything to join the rat pack.
SPEAKER_05Oh. This just announced say it. The faction versus the country gents. What? Where? AMW. Where at Super Bowl? No, uh July 28th. Ohio show. Yeah, in Ohio. Oh, dude. Title for title. We'll just watch that on TV. Whoever wins gets both. Title for title. They should do that for Super Bowl. That's crazy. That should be a Super Bowl, yeah. That's crazy. It's a show nobody's gonna be able to go to.
SPEAKER_02Damn.
SPEAKER_05Well, that sucks. We won't be able to see that. We watch it on uh Powertown or Powerhouse or whatever their show's called. Trademark. Hashtag. I don't know what it's called. Showdown. Whatever. Uh well. Nothing. So you gotta check us out on if you're not following us on Facebook. We post all the links, everything on Facebook. Most we go to shows, we're gonna post where we're at on shows and stuff on Facebook. Follow us on Instagram, most everything we post on Facebook ends up on Instagram anyways, but you can follow both of them because you're able to do that because you have free will, because you live in the United States of America, and you have an iPhone. And you can do what you want. I know you have an iPhone because I
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SPEAKER_05don't.
SPEAKER_02And I'm superior to you. In other words, go follow us on every friggin' thing.
SPEAKER_05On everything. And listen, you need to check out our Patreon. We just shared a bunch of pictures from the show. Me and Clay went to, and then me and Noah and Clay got a bunch of pictures, everything. Waffle House pictures. We'll start posting every Waffle House meal that we eat. We're gonna start posting on Patreon. Oh, yeah. You're gonna see that. We've got the new vlog is coming out on there pretty soon. Um shout out to our patrons. Thank you all so much. Uh and make sure you you check that out. There's a bunch of levels of it. You know, you can you can subscribe for free on there too, and just check us out. And we share exclusive content on there all the time. So um, you'll be able to check that out. And then you can Spotify, you can listen to us just audio. We're still on Spotify, even though we're doing video here. So you can you can check that out also. Uh, but yeah, follow us and all that stuff. Um, and then check out our TikTok. We share random stuff on random stuff on our TikTok too, and clips of the shows. And then support indie wrestling. That's all you gotta do. As always, go to the NGW shows, go to the innovate show, KCW show, what's the what's uh uh Paw Driver Show? Yeah, the PDP. And then what's that? What's the other one we were talking about going to tomorrow night? They canceled it this weekend and it's moved tomorrow night. Uh uh Power Power Slam. Power Slam Pro.
SPEAKER_02I think so.
SPEAKER_05Power Slam Pro, I think it's what it's called.
SPEAKER_02I believe so. In West Virginia.
SPEAKER_05In yeah, it's in West Virginia. They was supposed to be last weekend and it got canceled and moved to tomorrow. Or it's supposed to be maybe next weekend and move to tomorrow.
SPEAKER_02Not sure.
SPEAKER_05Either way, Gen Z will be there.
SPEAKER_02Like it's got 12 belts. Probably get another tail.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, probably probably getting another title. He didn't know what he's talking about. I don't.
SPEAKER_00What?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, so we're gonna be at all those shows. So if you want to catch the worker shoot, come up to us, talk to us, ask us questions. You know, tell us you tell us you if you listen to the show, tell us if you hate the show, tell us if you hate Noah. Tokai if you hate him. We don't care. Everybody loves me.
SPEAKER_02Crazo loves me. Sean Cruz loves you. I don't care what Sean Cruz loves.
SPEAKER_05Oh, ouch. That was a kind of a mean thing to say, but that's okay. Love you guys. Uh hold on. Thank before we go off the air.
unknownUh-oh.
SPEAKER_05Braxton Kane. Oh. Well. I hope I get to see you. Talk your shit, twin. At NG Dub. And I hope you get to step in the ring with Habibi once again. And Habibi will show you what it's like. And you have a lot of blood on your hands right now. And you joining the Illuminati might have been the worst decision you've ever made. That's true. And all the stuff you talk now, that's true. I want
Braxton Kane Gets Put On Notice
SPEAKER_05to hear it in the ring. Prove to me in the ring that you can do it. You say you're the born stunner. Show us that you're the born stunner. I'm out. He left. Remember, look, so many marks today.
SPEAKER_02That was a mic dropped. There you go.