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A Ringside Night In Whitesburg With KCW Stars

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A great wrestling match can make a room feel electric. A masked run-in can turn that electricity into pure chaos in seconds. We’re recording live from Kentucky Championship Wrestling Heat Wave in Whitesburg, Kentucky, reacting in real time to a night packed with big bumps, loud chants, and a finish that has everyone asking what happens next with the KCW championship picture.

We’re joined by Berto, who lays out a brutally honest rehab roadmap after a torn quad and multiple upcoming shoulder and collarbone replacements. Then RT3 steps in fresh off his KCW debut to talk match chemistry, selling, and where he’s headed next as he chases major career milestones. As the night unfolds, we also get updates and emotions from ringside as the fallout from interference sparks real frustration about respect, safety, and what KCW should allow through the curtain.

Crazo brings the comedy and the pain with a wild tooth story, and the KCW Tag Team Champions Better Late Than Never close it out with a deep breakdown of their tables match, what it takes to make a rivalry feel finished, and why independent wrestling crowds can be the best in the business. If you love indie wrestling, Kentucky wrestling, and the behind-the-scenes talk you only get after the ring starts coming apart, this one is for you. Subscribe, share this with a wrestling friend, and leave us a review with the one KCW matchup you need to see next.

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RING THE BELL!

Live From KCW Heat Wave

SPEAKER_12

Welcome in. What's up, guys? Hi. Hi! Berto doesn't know that we do two words. Yeah. I guess he doesn't know. Hello. That's actually good. We are we are on you, Clay. Easy. Listen, if you don't know, this is easy. He's here with us. Heavy D and Easy. Noah, Claybo, Berto is here with us live at Casey. Well, it's live to tape. It's not live. It's gonna be live stuff happen behind us, I'm sure. That's right. We're at Kentucky Championship Wrestling. We're in Whitesburg, Kentucky at the Ledger County Rec Center, Heat Wave. We just watched a banger. My God. If I can say so myself. Ridiculous. A ridiculous match. One of the best matches I've seen this year. Oh. Good wrestling. That's just a KCW thing, man. Carrie Morton and Landon, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_11

Oh hell yeah.

SPEAKER_12

Oh hell yeah. It was good. But then what happened at the end?

SPEAKER_10

Brian Compton interfered. But he wore a mask. But it was.

SPEAKER_11

It was a masked man. Just the green goblin at first.

SPEAKER_07

I know. I was like, where's Spider-Man? We need him. Berto, I didn't even know you were here. Me neither until I showed up. How about that?

SPEAKER_12

That seems to always happen to you that you're never here until you're here. I know, right? It's glad to have we're glad to have you here. I missed you guys. First time on the show. We're glad to be at KCW Heat Wife. Yes.

SPEAKER_07

First time listener, long time watcher. You guys are awesome.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, we appreciate it so much. So, Berto, uh, you recovering from some recovering from some injuries?

SPEAKER_07

Yes, yes. I had uh back in April, I tore my quadricep muscle off of my kneecap. Gosh. And it retracted three centimeters. And I had the operation on May 9th, and I'm in the process of recovering. And on top of that scoop of ice cream, I will have my left collarbone

Berto’s Surgeries And Bionic Dreams

SPEAKER_07

and shoulder replaced August 25th. And then the sprinkles and the cherry on top of that, I'll have the right shoulder and right collarbone replaced in October.

unknown

Wow.

SPEAKER_07

With titanium.

SPEAKER_01

Two days after my birthday.

SPEAKER_12

Two days after Eachie's birthday.

SPEAKER_07

Well, I will give you my shoulder.

SPEAKER_12

So so I'll sign it. But it sounds like then that means next year you're gonna be like bionic.

SPEAKER_07

Yes, sell the spear. Yeah. Bionic Birto.

SPEAKER_12

Bionic Birto is great. Right.

SPEAKER_07

Come out with a whole book it.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And I'm gonna get a chrome stormtrooper helmet. Oh, yeah, we should get uh hippo like with a Kano mask like Motor Combat.

SPEAKER_12

I'm actually here for that. Yes. It'd actually be awesome. So yeah, Birdo, um, I mean, uh we're excited to see you, you know, see you back in action one day here.

SPEAKER_07

Oh man, I can't wait.

SPEAKER_04

You guys are awesome.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, it's worth the drive. I drive four hours and I still look forward to it every time, even if I get home at two or three in the morning. You guys are awesome. The people here are great.

SPEAKER_12

If Kentucky Championship Wrestling was four hours away, we would drive to it. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So definitely. We we feel the same way about about Berto and Kentucky Championship Wrestling and everybody involved. Oh yeah. And we're so glad to have you on. And hopefully we'll we can do we we can do as soon as you're recovered from all your all your stuff and and we're ready to ready to get back at it. You come on the show.

SPEAKER_06

Yes.

SPEAKER_12

You come on the show and and you know, we'll call out. We'll see who's we'll see who's available then. Oh to see who we can see who we can get with you. Oh, okay. We also have a faction idea we're gonna pitch to you. We do it. We're gonna pitch the zoo.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, like the animal crackers? Yeah, yeah. Oh my god, do I?

SPEAKER_12

That's so much better. That's so much better. He gets credit for the name. Dang it. All hippo wants is watermelon. Yeah, that's beautiful. Well, remind me that for must for us to tell you about it later. It's beautiful. Hey.

SPEAKER_07

He told me to remind you later.

SPEAKER_12

Thank you. Thank you, Berto. He reminded he reminded me.

SPEAKER_07

He did his job. We'll be here all night. Try the veal.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, so we have we have um we have some interviews coming up. We had we have Berto. We're hopefully we're gonna get anybody else who anybody else who roams by. I would uh I'm not sure what the status of the champ is. Because I'm not sure the status of the champ is.

SPEAKER_11

He took a real rough shot. He did.

SPEAKER_12

Cheap shot and then a rough shot. Cheap shot to his shoulder. Yeah, he's doing well.

SPEAKER_07

That's all I can say.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, we hope we hope he's doing good. Uh really, you know, worry about what what's gonna happen with the you know, the Kentucky championship. The the big belt, the big one. Honestly, yeah. The big one. See what happens because Landon Hale's our boy.

SPEAKER_11

Landon Heard is a big hell no. Hell no. No boy no. You're right, that would not be good.

SPEAKER_12

All right. So the matches tonight, we had a tag team match. And hopefully we'll get them on in a few minutes. They're here, they're here. Hey, look, they're the guy waving at us. They're here somewhere, but yeah, our RT3 is here. I think RT3's gonna RT3's gonna try to come on. Uh, so we'll get we'll get him in a second. Uh yeah, I mean, and we're three minutes. Okay, three. He gave us the cue. Three. That's right. That's right. That's right. Somebody else gives us the cue. You got three minutes. Is he over there doing that? Didn't they tell him to say three minutes? Go home, go home and go home in three. Got you in three. Got you in three. Uh tonight was one of my favorite events that we watched in Kentucky for sure. Easily. Yeah. And uh it was easy. Did you love it?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_12

It was fantastic, wasn't it? What was your favorite match?

SPEAKER_01

The tables match.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, tables match was great. That's great. The powerbomb. I can agree with that. Yeah, the powerbomb off the top.

SPEAKER_11

Off the top, dude, it was.

SPEAKER_12

You can see him breaking down behind us, and there's uh Krazos back there.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, he's the guy with the bird. I like him.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, he's pretty good. You guys. Yeah, he had the bird, I have a hippo. He's picking it up. Where's where's Kenny Urban at? He's picking it up. Oh man, there we go.

SPEAKER_06

Oh my god, he drinks so much goose, it's geese.

SPEAKER_12

He's a party animal. Zoo world order. Yeah. Oh my god. There it is.

SPEAKER_07

That's it. Hide the concessions. Book it. Unlock the doors. We're coming from here. Where's Bobo?

SPEAKER_11

Book it, Bobo. Book it. You're somewhere. I know you're Harris.

SPEAKER_12

I actually don't see him. I don't know. I hope he hits. Where'd he go? Uh-oh. RT3 looks like he's on his way here. He's gonna spear pin win. He's gonna spear Birto off the seat. Oh no, I'll be.

SPEAKER_07

That's all right. I can take him out.

SPEAKER_06

Where do you want to go to lunch? Where do you want to go to lunch? I'll take him out. Mom, I treat. What's your favorite? Ooh.

SPEAKER_09

Say Applebee's.

unknown

Applebee's. I love Applebee's.

SPEAKER_11

I love Applebee's. I love Applebee's. All right. Yeah. You think Crazo didn't hear that?

SPEAKER_12

I know. That's the I was I figured he did.

SPEAKER_07

Alright, well, I will get off here and I'll say my goodbyes and say I miss you guys and see you next time on KWC Wrestling October 3rd. Yeah! And always remember Otter's old hands so they don't float away from one another.

SPEAKER_11

Love you, man.

SPEAKER_07

Love you guys. Love you so much. I love that hat too. It is awesome. Old school rules.

SPEAKER_12

Schoolhouse rock hat. Just a bill on Capitol Heel. We're doing that play in. I can't believe you guys still watch that. Thank you, Birdo. We're doing that play at school.

SPEAKER_09

Thank you, Birdo. I was raised on schoolhouse.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you, Birto. Thank you, buddy.

SPEAKER_12

Oh, now chant RT3.

SPEAKER_01

RT3. RT3.

SPEAKER_12

RT3. RT3.

SPEAKER_01

RT3.

SPEAKER_12

You ever used headphones before? Never have. Those are the new ones. Those are new headphones. They have two ear cups. Yeah, new design. Yeah, they're good. They're meant to sweat your head off. Actually, it's what they're built for. Here's your microphone. Oh, sweet. We hold this, you talk into that thing. Let me see if it's tuned in. Yep. It's working. Hello, yeah. Totally channeled Clay liked that joke.

RT3 Debut And Next Bookings

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, this is Wes. Just kidding. He's not here. Waino made it before Wes did. Waino always makes it. This is RT3, one of our favorite wrestlers. Oh, yeah. Don't mean to hurt people's feelings, but I I told I told I told Roy. Can I say your legal name? I told Roy that if we today created a uh a promotion, I would put the belt on him.

unknown

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_12

First guy. First guy is a big belt. But you're gonna be a heel though. Because I've never seen you be a bad guy. I think I did once, actually. You ain't missing nothing. You're too nice. You're too nice. It's a great guy.

SPEAKER_01

What kind of match, though?

SPEAKER_12

Ooh. He'd win the belt.

SPEAKER_11

Listen, I want to have a ladder match so bad.

SPEAKER_12

I was gonna say, yeah. Book it. Book that.

SPEAKER_11

I'm here for that. Somebody booked that.

SPEAKER_12

Have you told Jonathan that?

SPEAKER_11

No. Not yet.

SPEAKER_12

Beat the mic when you talk. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_11

I gotta get in here first. Yeah, you get um today was day one.

SPEAKER_12

Oh, I forget. See, I told you, I forget every time this was his debut at Kentucky Jeep Express. Yeah, no. But we've seen him we see him wrestle. It it actually kind of might be stalkerish that I think every like every time he's booked, where it's there's people worse than us. I love you guys. There's people worse than us. Yeah, that's true. That's very true. That's true. But but the only person that the only person that um that watches you wrestle more is uh your family, probably.

SPEAKER_11

Family is very supportive of Mel. We watch a lot.

SPEAKER_12

Very thankful. Yeah. We know a lot of people's families. It's what's weird. We go to so many shows. It's like, oh yeah, you guys. We're one show away from an invite to a cookout. But yeah, this is uh RT3's first first uh first KCW match. First time on the pod. First time on the pod, Widesper in Tech. A lot of firsts today. Yeah. A lot of firsts. Good times. Did you have a good time tonight? I thought the match was great. The match was fantastic.

SPEAKER_11

But it was good.

SPEAKER_12

I've I've never seen you put on a bad match.

SPEAKER_11

It was a very good match. Oh, yeah. So Nate was great. Page was great. I mean, that was the first time me and Nate's ever done it too, and it was really good.

SPEAKER_12

You you and Nate working together was was very good. Both both complete pros. Oh, yeah. It looked fantastic.

SPEAKER_11

I just want to talk about that sale from the stunner. I love taking a stunner. Yeah, you don't see that kind of you don't see that kind of sale much. I want to watch it. Did anybody get it?

SPEAKER_12

Um I might have. Somebody here got it. I mean, it's it's definitely all on tape. They were filming a lot from the top, so I would I would say they got some of that stuff for sure back. Yeah, that was there was some really sick moves tonight, and everybody looked so clean and so good and so fast. Great show. You and you and Buzzsaw, Buzzsaw, he was Buzzsaw tonight. Uh there was a couple dudes who had never seen he was like, Is that Buzzsaw? And and I was like, Yeah. He said, Is that is this gimmick? Macho Man Bone Saul? And I was like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

Oh, he had Macho Man and Hulk Hogan here tonight. Macho and Hulk here tonight.

SPEAKER_12

I'm so happy. I legit can't believe I mean I can't believe it that Hulk Hogan was here tonight. Dude, listen, I just it was great. It was so awesome. It was that dude, as soon as he came out, I was like, oh. He's huge. Yeah, he's huge, dude. It's fantastic. Champs here. Thunder, Thunder, huh? Champs are there. Champs here.

SPEAKER_11

Champs, champs probably look for some little bang duck. Some some medical help, I would probably say.

SPEAKER_12

So uh RT3, where where where are you working next, bro? It's bad, I don't know.

SPEAKER_11

Let me look. Let me look.

SPEAKER_12

That's okay. Let us know. Get back. We make we need to make sure. We need to make sure we shout out and I need to be back with KCW on September 11th.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah. I will be back. But my next show, I am with All-Star Entertainment and Marion on the 15th. Oh, Marion. Oh, that's not a bad drive. I don't know. I don't know how far that. I think I'll have Evan Golden again. Oh, nice. I'm gonna wear him out. Again. He deserves it. Yeah. Give him a date of it. Evan Golden deserves it. We're chasing number 20. My 20th heavyweight championship. Next one is number 20. Oh, crazy. Is he of the belt? He's got the belt. Why didn't you get that 20? What date is that? 15th.

SPEAKER_12

August. Like to see that. Oh, yeah. Like to see that. We'll we'll stalk RC3 again. Spear pin win. We have the spear pin win chance. We bring them with us all the time, don't we, Tanner? Don't we tanner? Yes, and I love it.

SPEAKER_01

Um, what day is it on? I think it's on Saturday, I think.

SPEAKER_12

He's he's gotta know he's gonna call out for work if he's got that. Yeah, he's gotta make sure he put in Pin PTO. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

He's gonna be sick that day.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, yeah, he'll take it'll take time off that day. We we hope to see you. I mean, I can't wait to see you again here. Oh, yeah. And then we'll see you again before that. What a good setup, too. Oh, it's awesome. Ain't it beautiful in here?

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, great venue.

SPEAKER_12

It's it's only gonna take once to get somebody nuts here on this coming off this catwalk. I can name a few people I think would do it. Brandon Hartsook. Brandon Hartsook would do it.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12

And then, you know, who would really do it would would be uh the ninja. Oh, yeah, facade would do it for sure. 100% facade would do do like a 450 off of it. Yeah, they'd probably find a way to get up through two tables up there to those rafters. Yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful. But tonight was insane. Table match, lots of weapons. Lots of weapons tonight. Champ, the champ looks like he might be hurt. Lots, lots going down.

SPEAKER_11

I was talking to Nate, too, and I think every indie show needs at least one gimmick match, like a good crazy match, like a table, yes, ladder match, extreme rules, something. Not, I mean, that's somebody's favorite. Even just a simple no DQ. Yeah, you know. Every every show needs at least one.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, and I guess I've been to shows that don't have them, and and I always know it's usually those clean cut. The clean cut shows that don't do don't do anything. The only weapon they use is a rigged chair. Yeah. You know, is the way the way they work through it. Well, here everybody just takes the pain. Yeah. And this floor, any of those bumps that were on the outside. Yeah, there's no padding here. It was disgusting. And yeah, there were some really sick bumps. Um there were some really sick bumps to the outside.

SPEAKER_11

I must have missed some of the outside bumps.

SPEAKER_12

The G.I. Joe took a crazy bump, crazy bump to the outside.

unknown

Damn.

SPEAKER_12

You didn't see him, you were running around busy.

SPEAKER_11

Oh, yeah, which I can only see so much on the TV. Yeah, on the monitor. That's another good-sized guy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's huge. Yeah. He's huge. First time meeting a lot of these guys tonight, and everybody was very professional. Everybody. Can't say anything.

SPEAKER_12

Roy, looks like we have uh we got some important business here to talk about with uh with the man. Uh or I guess he's speaking for the man. Are you speaking for the man, Bobby? Okay. Yeah, we got that. We appreciate you. We're gonna do a full interview sometimes. Yes. Absolutely. You come you come in person, come to come to Neon, Kentucky. I'll make you a steak. Come to Neon. I'll make we always got something to eat. Oh, you'll see a steak. You you come to Neon, hang out, pet my cats. Yeah. Uh get on the podcast. That's what we do. I'm here. Bam. Love you, bro. Always. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01

When is the next Innovate show?

SPEAKER_12

Oh, you want to go to Innovate Show? What's the next Innovate Show we plug? If we were in the city. Yeah. It was tonight, bro.

SPEAKER_11

We'll see it online tonight. We'll see it online.

SPEAKER_12

But now we're gonna bring Bobby on over here. Beautiful. Bobby's got some. Last time you were here, you were really mad. Okay.

SPEAKER_08

I'm mad again.

SPEAKER_12

He's mad again. Upset guy. Hey, what mic is that one there? Tapping out. I feel like we might be on the same page this time.

SPEAKER_08

I think so too. Uh, how about RT3, man? Freaking great debut here at KCW. He was incredible.

SPEAKER_12

I knew you'd love him. I knew you'd love him. He's awesome.

SPEAKER_08

I I thought the world of him. When I found out he was debuting,

Backstage Fallout And Brian Compton

SPEAKER_08

had to look him up. I'm like, this kid's got it. He's got that it factor. Yes. My goodness. But uh what a show. What a show, bro. All right. Let's talk about a couple of things because I the boss was in my air. He goes, Loki, Bobby, I want you to talk about that tag match. Tables match, man. Did you think it could get any better?

SPEAKER_12

No, it was awesome. Absolutely not. It was awesome. No. So funny story, I didn't know it was a tables match until about an hour before the show. I was like, I was like, why why are we why are we setting up tables like it's a tables match? I was like, no way. Clay was like, you didn't know it was a tables match?

SPEAKER_08

No, no idea, bro. And I don't know if you saw, but one of the tables actually had B L T and I'm like, Better late than never. They got their own brand new table. You seen the Slim Jim tables? They got the better late than never table. I mean, that's a much better tag. Oh, it's absolutely hey, eat that mic when you're talking to it if you don't care. I don't need to eat a mic. I'll no, I'll just I'll project a little more. You do project a little more. That's fine. AZ got something to say?

SPEAKER_01

At first, I thought that table had gasoline on it.

SPEAKER_08

I don't think they'd allow that here in the building.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, I think there might be a fire hazard for a burning table, my dude.

SPEAKER_08

But uh I I do have an update on our champ tells us uh he is being taken to a medical facility to get looked at. It looks like from first reports, possibly a separated shoulder. Oh god. And we don't need that. I mean, we bad enough we had the fiasco before. I mean, poor Birto's out. We don't want to lose Birto. Birdo's a great competitor, and now the possibility of our champ being hurt is just it's devastating. But I want to address it, and I'm gonna look right at your camera. That jerk off Brian Camp and you whiny little pain in the butt. I'm not on the posters, I'm not this, I'm not that. Maybe if you wouldn't stoop to the crap that you showed tonight, maybe if you showed some talent and respect to KCW, maybe then you'd get on the posters. Look, I don't like management any more than anybody else. We all know that Dodo Tackett is a bird-brained, stupid idiot, and Hampton's out in outer space at this point. But my god, kid, you're supposed to be talented. You stooped to taking out our champion with a chair, dude. I heard Kerry Morton. Did you guys hear Kerry Morton afterwards saying that he was going to put a good old-fashioned Kentucky butt whooping on Brian Campton?

SPEAKER_11

Oh, he's got it coming.

SPEAKER_01

I hope he gets and Brian, if you're watching this, the next time you can you come to KCW, make sure you bring someone because Landon night night.

SPEAKER_08

Absolutely, dude. Absolutely. Couldn't have said it better myself. It's just I've been in this business for over three decades, and I've never seen the mismanagement in the like that's in this company. Allowing someone like Brian just to come out and do that. Well, I mean, we're security. Right. Why were they? We had a great match. That match was stupendous. 20 minutes, folks. You want to watch a wrestling match? Watch that match. 20 minutes of action back and forth. We had suplexes. I thought Carrie was gonna lose it there for a minute. Yeah, Carrie was getting mad. He was getting mad. He was getting fiery, young man. I mean, I know his dad real well, but I mean, we had a trainee of Gibson and a trainee of Morton, and then Brian ruins it. Ruins it at the end. Ruins it. Ruins it.

SPEAKER_12

Somebody came out in that mask and I said, I know that's that son of a bitch, Brian.

SPEAKER_08

It's just it's ridiculous. I I usually I can say a lot of things about people, but I'm just disgusted with his behavior.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_08

It's just totally inappropriate. Ruined a perfectly good match. I wanted five more minutes. The fans wanted five more minutes. I know you guys wanted five more minutes. Oh, we wanted 10. Absolutely. 10, 15, 20. I'd you know what I'd love to see? I would love to see a rematch with Carrie Morton, Landon Hale, Iron Man 60 Minutes. Oh, yeah. Come on.

SPEAKER_11

Jonathan, if you're listening, book it.

SPEAKER_08

That would that would be a dream come true. Those two guys, they didn't even look winded at the end of the match, didn't it? Absolutely not. I mean, it was incredible. But uh October 3rd is our next uh event here at the event center. It's gonna be awesome. I believe it's called Last Rights 2. Oh, okay. I mean, we're we're we're just rocking and rolling left and right. I do want to say a personal shout out. Uh I'm supposed to do it tonight, but uh, Rebel, baby, I'm behind you. I'm gonna be posting my ALS challenge within the next 24 to 48 hours. I am supporting you, darling. We are all behind you. This is bigger than wrestling. Kevin Owen said it. It's bigger than wrestling. ALS is a damn disease that needs to be cured. So I'm gonna put out my challenges now because I'm sitting with the guys I want to challenge. When I dunk myself, and I'm gonna do it, you're the guys who are gonna be the first people that I'm talking about challenging. I want to see y'all get wet. Dunk the ice buckets over your head in honor of Russia. I'll milk. Y'all milk. Are you that sweet?

SPEAKER_12

Yes.

SPEAKER_08

Has Birto tasted you? Because I mean Birto likes to lick things in her head. What did you ask? He likes lollipop. He lost it, didn't he? What was your don't know? Phrase your question differently. Is this BG? This is Ron Killings. Ron Killings learned it from me. Oh, shit. Shout out to Ron. Love you, bro. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, KCW is bringing in the best talent, not just in Kentucky, but in the States. I mean, we got Crazo. We got Birdo. We got, like you said, that would you call it the Zoo World Order? The Zoo World Order. I was thinking the new Zoo Review, but I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_11

Either way, Animal Crackers and Animal Crackers and we got three good names. Animal Crackers named it. We got three good names. It's endless.

SPEAKER_08

But I mean, the talent is like incredible. I mean, why else did Ricky Morton, Carrie Morton come here? Why else Better Late Than Never, the Shooter Society? The list goes on and on. GCW is where it's at. And I'm going to compliment you guys. I heard you guys were the sole sponsor of the main event. Great choice, gentlemen. I thought it was awesome. Thank you for sponsoring PCW. We appreciate you guys so much. Come back October. We'll do a longer interview. I'd love to sit and talk, but I gotta go check on a couple of things.

SPEAKER_12

We're happy to have you. I'm glad to see it turn around and admit.

SPEAKER_01

John, please book this Triple Threat.

SPEAKER_04

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

Bitch of Brian Compton. Carrie Morton. Landon. Booker.

SPEAKER_08

Honestly. I don't know. I think Jonathan needs to take advice from you. He needs to be bulletin. I think you can give me a fist buff on that. I like that. I'm gonna take your suggestion to the back and tell the boss. Tell the boss he said dude. We're gonna do that.

SPEAKER_11

Hey, we need to put him in the AP spot since the promoter.

SPEAKER_08

He'll do a better job than Dodo. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_12

Thank you, Bobby. We'll see you soon. Well, we were hoping to have. I don't know if uh Crazo. Krazo's giving us crazy eyes. Crazy eyes. We found Crazo. Here's Crazo. Hold this.

SPEAKER_10

You want heads on?

SPEAKER_12

Krazo's here. Krazo's here. I think we're we're gonna try to get those boys on back there. Um if we that's you're wearing it exactly how I thought you were wearing it. You're like the third person that doesn't know how to wear a headset.

SPEAKER_11

Actually, it's nothing. That's not how you do it. That's not

Crazo Joins And Tooth Story

SPEAKER_11

how you do it.

SPEAKER_12

It is, actually. It's exactly how you do it.

SPEAKER_03

I know you wear like Apple Applebee's like this.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah. Which um we need to get He's avoiding the topic.

SPEAKER_03

I am avoiding the topic. What's the topic? Applebee's such a piece of shit. I don't know. Yeah, that too.

SPEAKER_12

Did you s I told a little kid to come up and tell you the the their favorite restaurant was Applebee's? Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_03

He wouldn't he wouldn't gaslight anyway right now.

SPEAKER_01

Crazy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

When are you gonna be at another street fight?

SPEAKER_03

Another street fight?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I don't like fighting on the street, so.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no, like a deathmatch.

SPEAKER_03

Uh no deat match. No, why would you wish that on anybody?

SPEAKER_12

Watch out behind you. Watch out behind you. Crazo, this was second time in second time in Kentucky. Kentucky, yeah. In Kentucky. Oh, yeah. 2-0 in Whitesburg. You're 2-0 in Whitesburg.

SPEAKER_03

I'm coming for that uh Kentucky Championship Wrestling American title. United States American title. Which what the the Intercontinental? It's both of them. It's the Intercontinental. Yeah, they they call it like the mid-card title or something like that? Yeah, that's that's okay. Just for now. Just for now, it's the mid-card title. There's a mid-card title?

SPEAKER_06

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_12

I want more.

SPEAKER_03

Did you tell him to give us one? I you tell the boss man that.

SPEAKER_12

I told him already. I just told him. You told me to tell him and I told him.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah. What do you think? My head hurts. Who's doing that? I don't know. It has to be you. Why would it be mean? Why are you gaslighting me? I don't know. Because you wear your headset upside down and backwards.

SPEAKER_03

This is not upside down. This is upside down.

SPEAKER_12

Two and oh. He's got you. Uh wins wins with a roll-up every time. That's all.

SPEAKER_03

No, I beat Kyle Brooks with um my finisher move. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_12

Kyle Brooks takes everybody's finisher. Where's he at?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know.

SPEAKER_12

Why are you asking that? Does Bobby Kang's debut in Kentucky?

SPEAKER_03

Well, I love how we're talking about everybody but me. Where's he at? Who? Bobby Kang? I don't know. I'm on air right now. I'm live. We are live on Facebook live. You're avoiding me. This is why you don't put me on any episode either. We're on MySpace. You'll put Nuke Blackwell on Ryan Austin on F.

SPEAKER_12

So much hate. What's the hate for Ryan Austin? We've been trying to get him to Japan forever. Crazy, you're my favorite.

SPEAKER_10

We came up with a new hashtag for Crazy today.

SPEAKER_12

What is it?

SPEAKER_10

You want to say it now?

SPEAKER_03

What?

SPEAKER_10

They don't know. The hashtag we came up with. Yeah, what is it?

SPEAKER_03

What is it?

SPEAKER_10

Hashtag get Crazy with Sugar Mama.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah. Hey, I need to pay for that gold tooth somehow, you know.

SPEAKER_10

You should get it platinum.

SPEAKER_03

I didn't even notice. You're ruining it.

SPEAKER_10

Can you give us a story on how that happened?

SPEAKER_03

Well, that's a sore subject. Silver, okay. That's a sore subject.

SPEAKER_09

I told you it was a sore subject. I told you that.

SPEAKER_03

My opponent uh thankfully hit me in the mouth with um a move called like some type of yes sir. They see he's losing teeth. I'm gonna grow mine back eventually.

SPEAKER_12

That was just a baby tooth, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was a baby tooth. Um I'm waiting for the quarter to come out, you know, from the tooth fairy. Um, but no, my opponent accidentally hit me in the mouth. Um and you know, my my teeth came out like Tic Tacs. One of my teeth uh shattered in four different pieces. Yeah, you know, that's great. Uh your makeup stays on really good. Thank you. He loves to avoid the topic. But uh yeah, you know, the two shattered in four different pieces, and they had to like pick each and every piece out. Oh my god, so that's great. But um no, I'm doing fine. I'm healing. I'm still beautiful.

SPEAKER_12

Where's your next show? Innovate. Is it innovate? Innovate, yeah. We were trying to figure out what innovate's next show was, and we weren't showing it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're gonna avoid me there too, so it's fine. Like you're gonna avoid putting me on your podcast. I gotta avoid you. You don't want to ask me my backstory. You're on the podcast. What I don't, you know, you don't ask me if I like, you know, long walks on the beach and all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_12

I literally didn't ask anybody that was on the podcast any questions when they were over here.

SPEAKER_03

He's gaslighting us again. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01

What day is innovate?

SPEAKER_03

August. No, yeah, August 22nd, yeah.

SPEAKER_12

He puts everybody on the spot. It's awesome.

SPEAKER_03

Like you?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, we have Tennessee, so I cannot go.

SPEAKER_12

Oh innovates in Tennessee, so I don't have to crazy.

SPEAKER_10

You won't believe it. I started football on August 22nd. It's my first game.

SPEAKER_03

I can't do anything about it. I totally not do anything. This man is going to be signed by the NFL before we know it.

SPEAKER_01

Former birthday, I'm going to I'm going to Pigeonforge for my birthday.

SPEAKER_03

He's going to Pigeonforge. Happy birthday.

SPEAKER_12

I wish I was going to Pigeonforge for my birthday. Honestly. I'm not, because I'm an adult.

SPEAKER_03

Having turkey, probably. Oh, going to Apple. Is it on Thanksgiving? Yes. Oh, God.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah. Wasn't that awful? Yeah, you feel worse now. You understand me a lot more now, though?

SPEAKER_03

I understand your trauma, yeah. Yeah, okay. We'll talk to uh Landon. Uh he's the doctor over here.

SPEAKER_12

I think I don't think you can I don't think it's the same counselor. I think it's the same guy.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. That's fine. Counselor Chris got knocked out by Andy Optimal. Optimal's crime. How's he doing? Who, Andy? No, no. Oh, Counselor Chris, I don't know. He's like veteran, dude. Wow. You were making a joke out of a serious topic right now. God, Danny's such a good idea. I don't know if you meant me. I'm gonna fire you from my podcast. Get off my podcast. This is my podcast. Yes, thank you. Leave the equipment too. We can sell it on eBay. Oh, he's leaving.

SPEAKER_12

You don't know. Why are you leaving? I thought it was your podcast.

SPEAKER_03

This is your podcast, dude. Okay. You're gaslighting us again.

SPEAKER_12

I don't actually even know what that means.

SPEAKER_03

You don't know what gaslighting means? Look it up and it's your personality.

SPEAKER_01

I am confused of you.

SPEAKER_03

I am confused of myself, Kim.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know what that means either.

SPEAKER_03

You have an amazing haircut, by the way. I see. It is it is fantastic. Men of men of great hair. You have man bun, so you can't talk. It's not it's only a man bun if it's up. Oh.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, like I've seen you, like I've not seen you with your hair up.

SPEAKER_03

You have it. You're gaslighting once again. I'm gonna talk to Counselor Chris when he's out of the hospital. You're gaslighting me? Counselor Chris is in the hospital right now. So uh please set him up an appointment. Yeah, I am. Yeah. We're definitely gonna have a fun then.

SPEAKER_11

Whatever have whatever the longest he'll go.

SPEAKER_03

So are you gonna come back?

SPEAKER_12

You're gonna come back to Kentucky and wrestle and be the only guest on this podcast?

SPEAKER_03

Uh well, I'm gonna come back and win the um Kentucky Championship Wrestling Intercontinental United States 247-Eleven. Uh actually 24-7-11. Jonathan watches this, so he knows. Oh, yeah. He's listening. He loves me.

SPEAKER_12

That hurt my feelings because like I feel like that with you were being like, he doesn't. Who? He's obviously doesn't watch it.

SPEAKER_03

Jonathan loves me.

SPEAKER_12

Jonathan does love you. And I told you you were gonna be over here as soon as you came here.

SPEAKER_03

I drove.

SPEAKER_12

I can't help but gaslight you. I don't know. I don't know. We know we know. You your whole personality is rage bait. I rage bait myself.

SPEAKER_01

What was wrong with your headset?

SPEAKER_03

He gave me the wrong one. I did.

SPEAKER_01

I gave him a backwards head down.

SPEAKER_11

This is from Timu. It don't fit, right? Yeah. I gave him a backwards upside down headset. It's my big head. It's like an egg shell helmet.

SPEAKER_12

I assume next time we record here, Krazo's gonna be here. Okay. Krazo's gonna be gonna be fighting for gonna be fighting for the mid-card title that nobody's even announced yet, and we don't even know if it exists yet.

SPEAKER_03

I'll cut it with cardboard. That's fine.

SPEAKER_12

It looks a whole lot behind us. Like behind us, they are taking everything down and everything's done. Are we in the way yet? Are we still good? I think we're good still. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

We're almost good.

SPEAKER_12

We're still good. We may crazy may be the last guess. We might be out of guess. Everybody might have left. No. Adam and Oh, or it's better late than never. Yeah. It's not late. I know. It's only like. No, I know. If it was gonna be late, it would be better than ever. It's only 9.38. I hope you meet Waino next time. You would love Wayne. Yeah, you really would. That's will you show him Wayne O'Connor? This is Waino. Oh, you need to sign his picture before you leave. I don't know who that is. I know. No one really does. He's leaving. Hey, just the middle of the show. I just scared him. He's just leaving the five. That's fine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, he's back. He's back.

SPEAKER_12

He he you gotta hunk a p. Are you gonna eat on camera?

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_12

Why not? I'm not I'm not fighting. I'm not fighting it. You're fighting them right now.

SPEAKER_11

I respect it.

SPEAKER_12

Man, I gotta eat. Right. Crazy, I can't. That's a grown boy. Yeah. I can't talk to Crazo. We had a blast tonight. Yes, we did. I was I was I was set up selling toys, so like I had what kind of toys? Just sit in this corner.

SPEAKER_03

Just a bunch of them. I still don't see the Crazo action figure.

SPEAKER_12

It's because you didn't dig deep enough in the bottom of the barrel.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, they're in the ball. Wow. Wow. What a guy. Wow. Gaslighting once again. Did I do that? Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Probably.

SPEAKER_03

That's the sound. Alright.

SPEAKER_01

So I can make you one, Crazo.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, he'll make me one. Look forward to uh seeing me on the interview on the worker shoot podcast. Uh coming soon to wwe.com. Um wait, we can't say that. Uh we'll get to that mark.

SPEAKER_12

You just got us read banned from YouTube. You said those three letters together. You can't even put them in a you can't even spell it.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, find me on the VHS copy of the Worker Shoot Podcast. There we go.

SPEAKER_12

I think you can say WWF though, I think.

SPEAKER_03

No, the world wild the world wheel wrest wildlife. World Wrestling Wildlife.

SPEAKER_12

That's what happened to Vince McMahon. The panda sued him.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. All right, we don't know that name anyway. Anyways, uh, thank you guys for watching. Um think you've been on again, Crazo. You're you're gonna find crazo sugar mama.

SPEAKER_12

Hashtag find crazo sugar mama to Japan.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe we'll talk about the other stories of why I don't like certain individuals, but it's fine. That's my heart again.

SPEAKER_12

That was that's what I thought.

SPEAKER_03

All right. Thank you for so much for joining our podcast. Okay, you guys have a great day. Yeah, bye. Dude, it's your podcast. Stay on.

SPEAKER_12

I love you. Love you more. Be careful going home.

SPEAKER_03

He kissed me.

SPEAKER_12

Hey, tell that tag team to come over here and get on this podcast. Too bad they're they're too busy taking apart a ring.

SPEAKER_11

They are. They're still crazy. Vets still paying their dues, by God. You guys would love to see it.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah. It's always there.

SPEAKER_11

Um better late than ever and always there.

SPEAKER_12

It's a good phrase. Did they did you come up with that? Yeah, I just stole that with them.

SPEAKER_11

I just stole from what you just said.

SPEAKER_12

Text it. Thank you. That happens, joke stealing. I'll give you credit for that. Joke stealer. Oh, the man's banged up, beat up.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you you feeling great? Hey, at least you didn't go through a table. Well, no, but you know, when you get blindsided from behind, so I mean, when as soon as you walk out, you know, you don't really know what's happening for the next 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_12

We were trying to yell, and we were trying to warn you.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I mean, I've been wrestling for 11 years, and I've seen, and I should have known better. You gotta have eyes in the back of your head. But tonight I didn't. I let the adrenaline get to me. Me and Kobe thought, hey, they'll be waiting for us in the ring. We come out and boom, Pearl Harbor from behind. And uh from that moment on, you just gotta start trying to get your mind right. You gotta start thinking, trying to get your thought process back. And uh it was rough for a minute or two, but we we fought back and dug deep and uh I said and uh a bunch, but it's okay. It's okay. It's your first time ever been recording. I love it. And listen, we we overcame the odds tonight because when you gotta fight from underneath, a lot of the problems you can throw the towel in and call it a night, but we didn't.

SPEAKER_11

Oh god, you keep it going.

SPEAKER_02

Do you know this? Do you know do you know him? Yes, he's one of the best fans ever. Easy. My boss is his cousin, I think. My sh my my where I work at, he was he said, you know easy? And I was thinking, easy, who? He said, the boy with the long hair, was he arrested? I said, Yes, I love that kid.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, yeah, he's he's the he's the real, he's the one true fan. Oh yeah, gold here, yeah. Hey, there's another mic over there, too. I'll just unmute it. Yeah. There's as many mics as you want. You sit wherever you want, whatever you want to do. Mark your big hind them. Everybody's in the shot. Does it work, though? Yeah, there we go. Yeah, it works. So make sure you talk into this. Hey, how's it going, guys? Hey, we're happy to have, and and we're happy to have them better late than never. Better late than never. And always there. The Kentucky Championship Wrestling Tag Team Champions. You see it right here, guys.

SPEAKER_04

Bruce is in the beautiful.

SPEAKER_12

Look how pretty these are. Look how pretty these are. I just want to feel the heat off of them. They're still hot.

SPEAKER_02

They're still hot. Uh a couple other jokers thought they'd be around their waist tonight, and it didn't quite go down as well.

Tag Champs Break Down Tables Match

SPEAKER_02

No, no.

SPEAKER_05

It didn't pan out, did it?

SPEAKER_12

We knew better. We never doubted, did we, Clayton?

SPEAKER_02

No. Listen. Here's the thing about Better Late Than Never. When you've got a monster butcher that throws livestock on his shoulders and carries it out, puts it on meat hooks. When you've got a processing machine basically behind me that's so articulate and scientific it can make cuts. We're hard to deal with.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, you all you all were you all were on it tonight. You were you were you were on it tonight, you were straight with it, you know, gave them gave them all the business. After those first after those first table shots that you guys weren't ready for.

SPEAKER_05

Well, you know, I mean, uh as you can see, they they knew they couldn't win straight up.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, a sneak attack. I mean, I think even the last time, uh, over in the nest, when we got in the ring with those guys, it was it was just from behind, you know. That's what they do. Yeah. Yeah, they're not gonna come at you straightforward.

SPEAKER_02

And putting good guy, bad guy aside, I can't take nothing away from that move. Because if I was fighting for my life too, I'd do anything I could. You know what I mean? Right. So, you know, do I say, well, them boys shouldn't have done that? And I don't know where that voice came from. Well, you may that's okay. Right. But you know what? Good for them. It didn't work for them. Well but you gotta do what you do.

SPEAKER_12

If I was sitting and waiting, if I had to sit in the ring and know you guys were coming out towards like to the ring to whoop my ass, I would I would do something, I would definitely do something sketchy. Gain the upper hand.

SPEAKER_02

Dude, I've had my neck put in a chair and squashed, I've been hit behind with a table. I've been beat with a cane. Run away. He said they should have ran away. That's what they did last time. Yeah, that's what they did last time. That's what happened last time. Tonight they, you know, they brought their A game and uh they had some tricks up their sleeve. It just so happened that it's hard to get something over on.

SPEAKER_05

And and thank you to the brass of KCW. I mean, because we we asked for tables, we thought the fans deserve the tables, and just like I said online, they got them.

SPEAKER_12

I don't know if you heard me say this, but I didn't know it was a tables match until like an until I got here, and you guys started talking about the tables, and I was like, wait, that's why I was looking for a table? I was like, that was a tables match?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, absolutely. We we asked and we received, so thank you.

SPEAKER_02

We got together at like eight in the morning the day before and decided, didn't we? Yeah. It was like, stop up here. We'll we're gonna be pass crossing paths on our road. Stop up here. Let's talk about something real fast. So he's like, what do you think about this, man? Let's put an end to this rivalry once and for all in a definitive way. And that finish, bro. Listen. That finish. I see I mean they banged me up pretty bad. And I was like, I was wondering, I seen Kobe getting beat on, and they were gonna go for a double suplex. And I had to muster enough adrenaline up and willpower to get up there. And you know, first one I seen was uh Corey Sparks' little butt, and I figured I'd give him a shot, repay him for the table shot. And then uh Chase was up there, and I said, Let's go for a ride, my man.

SPEAKER_12

I really yeah, and and Kobe been in on the the fin. I thought you were gonna die.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I thought you were gonna die on his like I was like, Oh, it's like it looked like he was ejected from a car.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, there's it's mass chaos out there. I mean, there's tables, there's a ladder, uh bodies flying.

SPEAKER_12

And boy, it happened quick. We're ready for the finish.

SPEAKER_05

I even forgot the bell in the coffin.

SPEAKER_12

I even forgot it was a tables match until the bell rang. I was like, oh yeah, I just had to put him through that table.

SPEAKER_02

You know, we've been in the ring with a lot of people, man. Like, there's a lot, there's not a lot that we haven't saw. So we were ready for it. Oh, yeah. You know, we were ready for that. We've been in the rings with, you know, the Rock and Roll Express, Barbarian, Shane Douglas. I mean, the list goes on of savvy Hall of Famers. So, you know, nothing, take nothing away from uh Shooter's Society. They they came out and they had their plan, and it just so happened we were we weren't prepared, was we, I don't guess.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, you're never really prepared for a tables match. That's not something you can, you know, put reps in. Anyway, but but it, you know, who's got the biggest dog in them? Who who's who's gonna come out wanting it more than the other one?

SPEAKER_12

And I think you guys finished them off tonight. You know, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05

Like you really I I think they need to lick their wounds and reevaluate and we we can move forward.

SPEAKER_12

You're obviously the dominant, the dominant group, you're the dominant tag team in Kentucky Championship Preston, and that's very obvious.

SPEAKER_02

It was symbolic tonight when I had him up in that power bomb as if I was putting a person or not person, well, maybe a person, but a livestock on a meat hook. So it was kind of like walking it over, hanging it up at this time.

SPEAKER_12

You showed a little bit of your horror there. That was that sneaks out sometimes. I put that back in.

SPEAKER_02

I channeled Matt Bourne, the legendary late Dwink the Clown. If you guys listen, I'm looking in this camera. If you all are a fan of the game, fan of the business, go back to ECW and watch Matt Bourne Born Again character. It is one of the most unsettling, unpredictable characters in professional wrestling, and it didn't last long. That's the crazy part. Yeah, it wasn't long. Because I talked to Shane and I was like, dude, what was going on there? I was like, you all had it. That was gonna be unbelievable. He said, Adam. He said, uh, Matt showed up. We did like three weeks of taping and he

Horror Influences And Matt Bourne

SPEAKER_02

disappeared.

SPEAKER_12

That's what I was gonna say. It was Matt just vanished, right? He did that in WWE too. Like he just that was his problem. They said he was like one of the best workers of all time, but just a houdini with this bail on people.

SPEAKER_02

His promo's an ECW, man. It was so good. And tonight You're gonna make me go home and watch the movie. Oh, dude, I've I was watching them up early night. I just slowly trans. There was no plan for me to do that, was there? I brought a Jason mask. There was there was no plan for that. We got here like two o'clock and I started watching Matt Bourne doing it. I was like, oh my gosh. I was like, dude, this is so mean. Like loose canon, Brian Pillman. 100%. I mean, it's just like tonight, let's pay tribute to a dude that don't get the love he deserves, and and let's let's let the audience go back and do some research.

SPEAKER_12

Well, and you guys always always bring the crowd with you to the ring. Oh yeah. Because you guys are always popping at the end.

SPEAKER_02

Kobe's the greatest babyface that I've ever shared or been in the ring with. I appreciate that. Like when I he helped me. That was really nice. That was really nice. I mean, you don't know, dude. Like, you watch Ricky Morton sell back in the day when I when Kobe first started helping train me, watching Kobe sail in the ring, he was literally like sold to where you I mean, I'm a grown man and I'd about cry seeing him in thing. So he's here we go. We got a question for you.

SPEAKER_01

You are the you in Walfall is the biggest baby face I've ever seen. Oh, yeah. Tommy is good. Especially in Walfall.

SPEAKER_05

I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02

And there is no better worker in this world than Kobe either. I mean, I'm just telling you straight up facts. He can work with anybody. He's trying to make me blush. No, I'm not. I'm trying to get free rides and maybe free energy.

unknown

That's a stupid guy. That's a stupid.

SPEAKER_02

If you ever want to go back and watch this guy, I mean his early matches when he was like 18 years old, skinny. 100 pounds, maybe. Yes. I mean, he is he's the real deal. And if anybody could ever make it out of here, I've never seen him have a bad match. Never. He's never had a bad match. I've never seen you have a bad match either. Well, I've had some minor fight. Yeah, let's be honest. That's all right. That's what I'm here for. I'm calling it from the bruiser. Brody cloth. I'm coming for the stage. You know what I mean? I'm coming for it.

SPEAKER_12

But like I said, you bring the crowd with you. You say it's Kobe if you want to, but they're they're behind you thousand percent.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I'm one of the most charismatic human beings. Like I take inspiration from not just a horror movie, but like rock stars like Axel Rose, David Leberman. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_05

He's a stage front.

SPEAKER_02

You're so dad all the time.

unknown

I am.

SPEAKER_02

That's one thing I'm most proud of in my life. I know it, bro. I'm a family man. I mean, honestly, like it's uh that's my main thing. And Kobe is too. Kobe, you know, that's we're just like brothers, honest to God. And you know, it's the thing about Better Late Than Never is it's not a company putting two guys together hoping they can get over it. It's two guys that have been together from the start of my career and a guy that's helped me unbelievable now.

SPEAKER_05

And we get we're just brothers.

SPEAKER_02

We get to do this as you know.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's it's not it don't get no more organic than this. I mean, what what you see in the in the ring or what you see right now in front of the camera, this this is what you get.

SPEAKER_12

I will I will attest to that. As as workers shoot, and we we make sure that we try to separate what's a work and what's a shoot. I promise these boys are

Why This Tag Team Works

SPEAKER_12

just shooting all the time. That's just who they are. That's who we are. That's who they are. Or maybe it's a work, but me and Nate either way.

SPEAKER_02

Me and Nate was talking tonight about our personas and it's who we are. You know, it's it's it's not when oh for sure. And when you know, the advice I give to up-and-coming professional wrestlers is if you're coming up with a character, it's gotta be so close to who you are, cranked up. Yeah because if you believe it, the crowd's gonna believe it. You know, if you just come out and give a couple how hey, how's it going, Major County? And walk up. Nobody's gonna buy that. No, you know what I mean? Your heart's gotta be in it. Yes, you've got to be who you are, you know, and if they like you, they like you. And, you know, if they don't, I guess you're healed.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Crowd decides for you.

SPEAKER_12

Tonight there was a lot of, I mean, you know, card subject to change, so it ended up with a lot of babies on baby tonight. Like, good, good. What's the thing about Thunder Kids? Dude. I can't even I can't even tell you. Okay, so I have a promo with him that you're gonna like. I'm gonna send the P again. I can't wait for you to send that. I can't wait for you to send that to me. That could be a good watch. Just this dude is this dude is fantastic. I mean, it's like That's what they said. Macho Man, Macho Man and Hulk Hogan were here tonight.

SPEAKER_02

Literally. It's like a tribute band. It's like I went and seen Get the Led Out, a tribute to Led Zeppelin, and they were so unbelievably good and sounded like Led Zeppelin that when he walked in today, I was like, man, he's like, he's like a tribute to Hogan and a good one, you know. And a good one.

SPEAKER_12

He's he's no joking. It might feel like gimmick stealing, but he he's doing so much, like he's doing so much tribute to it that it's it's so awful.

SPEAKER_02

He's not pretending to be Hogan. He's tell he's definitely not, and it's underlips. And it's done so good though, too. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_11

And that's that's the difference.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And I I you know, I got to know him. Like, I like new guys that come in, and I like to make them feel at home, and I like to talk to them about where they're from and why they like stuff. And he was such I walked in. I mean, I hate to tell this, but it was so sweet. Like, he was on the phone with his mom, and he got off the phone. He said, I just had to call my mom. I love my mom, she's a saint. I'm like, dude, that's the you're gonna make me cry. I mean, you're a great human being.

SPEAKER_12

You're just a great human being. He also kind of looks like the Wizard of Oz. I love it. I love it. He's he he's awesome. We didn't we didn't get a chance. I would have I didn't see that. I see that now. He looks like the wizard of oz, yeah. I I would have loved I would have loved to talk to him. Oh yeah, he's a sweep. Okay, go dude. Run, hurry, go behind the other way. Flip. I hope you all can hear me. Do three flips. Oh yeah, we can hear you. Okay. We'll pick you up. You're loud enough. Oh yeah, he's all mouth, so. A few other things too, but what's the snow? So you're so you're coming, you guys, you guys will be. I mean, I know you're working other places too. Where are you working next? Do you know that right off the top? Is it Alpha or something in uh Eastridge?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, Alpha Reserve.

SPEAKER_12

Oh, that's easy was telling us, basically, are you guys coming to the Easterge show? But I'm pretty sure it's when I'm gonna be in Greenville. Isn't it September 12th?

SPEAKER_05

I think September 12th.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, yeah. Is it Friday? Yeah, it's a Friday. So a Friday show.

SPEAKER_02

Because I'm booked on a Saturday doing a Texas Chainsaw Massacre watch through with Nate and some people from Scarefest, and we're like that's awesome. We're gonna be we're gonna be on Facebook Live with these other people, and we're gonna be making barbecue and discussing all the Texas. It's gonna be a pretty cool little deal.

SPEAKER_12

That's one, Clay. That's one. Yeah, you're right. That's one. Clay gets a yawn count. Clay gets a yawn count. I'm ready to get the bed myself. It looks like that we're about it looks like we're about to get kicked out of here, but we want to talk to you all just the the inaugural, still the inaugural Kentucky Championship, Kentucky Championship Tag Tag Champs, right? Yeah, nobody's seemed to be able to handle you guys yet.

SPEAKER_02

That's two and up. Tonight was the toughest one we've had yet. Yeah, I shouldn't say that because it was a different type of match. The Golden Gods are a theme that I've really yeah I I've got them in the back of my head because I think they're so good and they're they make me think of me and Kobe in a way.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Uh now that we've had that one off, they kind of know what they're in for now. You know, so I don't want to say they scare me, they concern me a little bit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12

Absolutely. And who's gonna step up, you know? Who's gonna step up to you guys?

SPEAKER_05

I'm looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_12

I mean, it seems like you you guys put an end to put an end to them.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I don't wanna I don't wanna toot our own horn, but when you bring when you've got a tag team that is uh the best of their size, their speed, their power, and they're in there together. What one guy can't do, the other one does magnificently. It's it's tough. You know, I've I mean I've watched it at when I was a singles competitor watching tag team wrestling, those were the guys that were really, really tough to deal with.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, filling each other's guns.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's the way the golden gods are. You got the big powerhouse, and then you've got the the uh professor of the ring in there also.

SPEAKER_12

Somewhere somebody's talking about, dude, those tag team champions for Kentucky Championship Wrestling, man. I we can't we can't even face them, they're still good. Yeah, the the big dude that just throws people around, and the other guy that's just flying on people. Step up, though. Step up.

SPEAKER_02

You ain't gonna know until you know it. But the thing about Kobe is another, you know, I don't sound like I'm at his uh awake or nothing, but the thing about Kobe is he's so good on, he's such a good technical wrestler. Yeah, he can hive. Nobody a lot of people don't know this man about got killed in a car wreck, and I was there and helped him with the hospital. So what he overcame, and this is a shoot, what he overcame to even step back into a ring, can't you can't question his toughness. You can't question his du uh what's it called on a durability. I mean, I watched this, uh, so if anybody knows the story behind his career, it's one of the most in- it's like Vinny Pasienza as a boxer. I mean, honestly.

SPEAKER_12

Your mic was picking up everybody because you're holding it down because you're getting tired. Because you're getting tired and you're handing it. Listen, we'll get off here and let you go start. No, no, he's good. It's his nap town.

SPEAKER_05

The party don't have to be over. We can send him the bed.

SPEAKER_12

He stays up while you're in everybody else. He act like he don't. You guys, the match was awesome. The tape table's match was so beautiful. Your name on the table. Listen to me. Next time, we want to get a worker shoot table. We'll get a big worker shoot sticker to put on it. Heck yeah. And then it breaks, we can hand that to kids. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

That was the cool part about that. It like the the the table exploded, so we was able to give some of that to the fans to take home.

SPEAKER_02

So you know, I just want to say something amongst us guys right here. It's like, I appreciate you guys.

SPEAKER_12

You know we're recording though. I don't care. Okay, I'm just making sure you can't.

SPEAKER_02

He's telling you all, but everybody heard it. I appreciate what you all do for independent wrestling. And not just you know, there's a lot of guys that want to get on a microphone and they want to go into business for themselves or they're wanting to angle. You all do it for the love of this business, and you've got such good personality, good dudes, and you help the guys get over. Guys can come here and they can talk, and the crowd can watch it, or not crowd, but the fans can watch it online. It's just another platform. And good guys do it. And that to me, absolutely at this point in my career, I love this. Hey, man, we appreciate that. That's all we want.

SPEAKER_00

That's really that's truly all we want.

SPEAKER_12

We said if we get one per if we get one wrestler booked, bro, like that, you know, that's all the work was worth it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

If we get somebody booked. And and you all are doing it the right way. And uh, you know, I'm not much, but if you all ever needed any kind of publicity or promotion, shoot me a message.

SPEAKER_12

Bro, yeah, we'll we want we want to have you in person. You need to come to Whitesburg. I was just in Weitzburg. Listen, this is Whitesburg, you come to Neon right up right up the road. You ever been to Neon, Kentucky? Yeah. Okay, you come to Neon, I'll cook for you. Yeah, he didn't blink, he didn't miss it.

SPEAKER_02

Sorry, bro. No, it's real. Saturday night we were uh You gotta know how to swim too. Well, okay, Dahmer. But we were here to watch State. And the ring and out at just up the street right here. Yeah, Apple Shop. Yeah, and that's that's kind of what I'm doing right now is I'm putting I'm doing a separate project. So whether that is like I had Linda Pillman do a video for me, Rick Rood's son's supposed to be doing one. Uh I'm gonna get uh Matt Bourne's daughter, and then I got Kobe, uh a lot of my friends in the business. So it's gonna be like a special entry, like a like a special. If you had a DVD back in the day, it'd be like this two, you know what I mean? Yeah. So that's kind of what my mindset is

Indie Wrestling Growth And Real Life

SPEAKER_02

on that.

SPEAKER_12

That's that's awesome, man. And and you know, that's I meant to I meant to to boost that. I just haven't I wasn't thinking about when we were sitting here, but I you know, I followed it and and it ain't aired to the public, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So they're still they're entering it in like festivals for the city. Yeah, I know I knew they were doing that.

SPEAKER_12

And you know, uh Apple Shop is like Apple Shop, the I love Apple Shop, they're all years and years and years. And they're lucky to make it through the flood too, because they lost all their footage and everything.

SPEAKER_02

What stuck out to me, and I stood up and said this at the end, is all these young filmmakers, like they were all like, you know, they weren't they didn't they weren't athletes or they weren't, you know, jocks or this and that. It was what they liked, and they took so much pride, and it's just as cool as anything else. You know what I mean? And I told them, I was like, dude, or girls, guys, listen, you all are talented. You all can do whatever you want. You all are young. If this is something you want to go for, rock and roll, go for it because y'all have the talent.

SPEAKER_12

Hey bro, there's listen, we we're all about it's it's funny. That's kind of I used to do another podcast where kind of follow your dream was the whole point of it. Like and it's really you guys are doing, you know, it's ever everybody here has you know day jobs or doing something, or you know, everybody's you guys are all in it for the love. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's like you're not out here making no money. Yeah, we know we know what it's about.

SPEAKER_02

And I told Kobe this on the way here, like and I I don't want to sound like I'm something, but even if there would have been an opportunity in my life that they I could have gone away from my family, or I could have gone and made a lot of money, like and been away from I would have never done that because my wife and son and dogs, like that's my passion, that's my joy, that's what I love more than anything, and I couldn't imagine missing out. I feel bad for a lot of the and you get Saturday night, you get Saturday night gentleman rush. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And you go home and get your bed. Yes, and get and talk to you guys meet. Well, we're celebrities, so you are, and it's not a big deal. It's going to get even bigger, too. Don't ever think it ain't.

SPEAKER_12

Well, I hope that, man. And and you know, I hope we can uh you can you know ride each other's success all the way. Kentucky Championship Render like that.

SPEAKER_02

With you guys, it's just no, it's a rocket ship.

SPEAKER_12

And I I really we're stands for KCW. We tell them all the time that their promotion, promotion value, and the wrestlers that work here is as good or better than anybody's anybody's funny. That's what you was telling me.

SPEAKER_05

Every night, every night Adam says it.

SPEAKER_02

Me and him just talking about that backstage during the main event. I was sitting there cramming my face with uh barbecue, and I look back and I was like, you know. Very good. But I was telling him, I was like, you know, being an independent wrestler, a lot of the time you go to shows and there's like really good talent up here, like four or five guys, and then down here, and it's nothing against them. No, no, no, that's the way it is. Yeah, I mean, nothing against them. They're just green or just getting started, or some of them don't care. I mean, it's just the way it is. They don't care, and they just want to play wrestler. Some that's totally different than green. Yeah. But from KCW standpoint, me and Kobe's talking about it. It's like there is not a bad worker that shows up on this show.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, everybody's taking their view every night.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_12

No joke, no joke. That's how I feel about every one of their shows, is there's no like just SmackDown. Yeah. Like it's every every show is a every show in survival series.

SPEAKER_02

War games.

SPEAKER_12

And it has that same vibe. And I want to say, hey, wasn't the crowd awesome tonight?

SPEAKER_05

It was. The crowd was so hard.

SPEAKER_02

My biggest fear as a professional wrestler. I mean, Kobe was just, I don't know how many times I'm gonna say it. We were talking about that earlier. We talk a lot. Yeah, my biggest fear is being in a match when the crowd goes silent. Oh, yeah. I can't let that happen. Yeah, you don't want to talk. I cannot let that happen. So I have to engage with an audience. I have to sail towards the fan in the first row where I've got to get so you want to see me rip his head off.

SPEAKER_05

If it wasn't for the fans, we wouldn't be doing what we're doing.

SPEAKER_12

It's the biggest fear. Everybody that was here tonight is going to be back here for the next show. Oh, yeah. Um, I'm telling you, they will.

SPEAKER_02

And the thing I think that Jonathan and Bobo is doing so well with KCW is they're not overdoing it. Yeah. Because a lot and you know, we've started with promotions where they started off hot for one, you know, and they went every month, two shows a month, and then by the third month, the attendance dropped so bad. It's people get oversaturated. They do. They do. And with this, when you if you can take a month off and do your promos, do your build-up, come back, people's got times to, you know, look forward to it.

SPEAKER_12

And we're in like this, we're in this time of independent wrestling that it might be as big as it's ever been. Yeah like, especially local promotions and so many doors have opened up to be able to make it. It does, man. And it's like people we know, like people we literally know and talk to every day, are like getting tryouts and and and gonna be on TV and it's crazy. Just I mean, and I know we go to more shows than most people and know more wrestlers than most people do, so odds are one of them's gonna make it.

SPEAKER_02

Well, let me ask you something. Where do we stand amongst other workers? Like, when you all go to these shows, do we are we do you guys consider us like a pretty decent one? Yeah, I'd put you up.

SPEAKER_12

I'd put you up there with any yeah, I'd put you up there with any of them.

SPEAKER_02

Because like we I always wonder, like, people that are students and go to these shows, like where they would compare us, or you know, I always wonder that. Like, what how do people view me? Hey, now how do people view which I I mean I as a wrestling fan, I look at Kobe and I'm like, that dude is he's the best.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, like Adam said, being family guys, you know, we we do a lot of local work, you know, and and and it's not you know, afraid to venture out or anything. It's like you know, in the shoot life, you know, we're bitching. That's the way it is, bro. Sometimes you can't travel to Alabama this weekend, you know. Y'all got shit to do tomorrow when you go home. Somebody got cut the grass. But you know, we stay local and we like to get back to the community and stuff. You know, see we we don't get to venture out to a lot of these other shows and stuff.

SPEAKER_02

So and I would put my money that he could go anywhere in the world in the world. I think Japan, Mexico, he could go hold his own.

SPEAKER_05

I'm I'm gonna before Adam wraps this up, I definitely I think me and him do need to make a trip to Japan. Just because it's gotta be Mark.

SPEAKER_12

I'm gonna tell you this is for the lords. Your gimmick, your gimmick would be so over in Japan. Like you're you everything, I say your gimmick, I know it's who you are, but no, no, like any horror, any horror thing or anybody, anybody doing anything his stature. You're gonna monster over people, and you're gonna throw the first person, everybody's gonna

Japan Talk And Closing Remarks

SPEAKER_12

be excited about each other.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I think it's gone to it. You know, Richie from Wildfire was doing his best to book me and Dougie Gilbert. Dougie done the print Freddie Krueger character over there, and I was gonna do the Leatherface, and we were gonna do a match, and it was, you know. They would love it. Well, I mean, we it didn't come to fruition, but it was a bit like it was worked on. I don't know if Dougie couldn't get up here or what, but that was something that I was really looking forward to because I'm a big fan of Doug Gilbert. And, you know, the Freddy Kruger thing, you know, you got Jason over there, Leatherface. You know, I talked to Colonel, who was the dude? I talked to him, I'm ashamed to say it. The guy that was in WWF in the 80s, he was a military guy. He went to Japan as Leatherface and got over like big. Oh shoot, I don't know. What was his name? He was like he was a military guy. He was like big in the 80s. Not slaughtered right. Not slaughtered, corporal cake, corporal. But anyways, I talked to him one night. He died recently, but he was the Leatherface character in Japan, and he called me one night. Like I reached out to him and he kept me on the phone forever. He was working in an oil field at the end. That's cool though. Yeah, yeah. I was like, That's cool, though. Is there anything I can do to get this over anymore? And he's like, keep doing what you're doing.

SPEAKER_12

Well, we we we are huge fans of you guys. Always have been. I I know you're huge I know you're fans of the show, and we appreciate you so much. It's a two-way stream. Yeah, and uh just so you guys know you're over more places than you wrestle, people know you in other places that you don't even work. Really? People talk about you. Yeah, so so you know, don't think you're not over, you're over. Oh yeah. Right. That's good to hear, though.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, it's it makes you feel good, honestly. Yeah, as you're as an artist or as a work, you know.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, when people know you, when people are talking about you that don't know that we know you. Right, you know, know that you hear the names, that's when it that's when it matters. And and you know, keep doing what you're doing. You guys are awesome.

SPEAKER_02

I love you guys, and I like I say, oh you keep doing this. Don't let this die, keep growing it. Hey, and and we'll hang out. You guys come over and we'll we'll hang out. Yeah, thanks for having us on. This has been a blast. I wanted to do this for the past gosh show. How many shows have y'all been here? Uh six, what is it, sixty-eight?

SPEAKER_11

We've been to every Casey Dub show since the second.

SPEAKER_02

Every time I walk by to go to the house and y'all are doing one, I just walk by with my head down, you know. Like a sad puppy.

SPEAKER_04

I was ready to be like, DMs.

SPEAKER_12

They were talking about who was gonna come on the show tonight. Like, who won who Johnson was like, who do you guys want to have on? I was like, dude, it's whoever walks by. Honestly. It's like we're we're still here, it's like an open door. Last time it was madness, everybody was just hopping over here. We was hoping to get Carrie.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Oh, Carrie's sweetheart.

SPEAKER_12

He's he's legitimately. I said every time I see him, I'm like, that dude is just wrestling. Oh man.

SPEAKER_02

He is just wrestling. Like he he speaks wrestling, smells wrestling, looks like he has had more triple threat matches than any two dudes in the world. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I've worked Carrie a lot. Triple threats and singles, and Carrie can go. Trust him with your life, don't you?

SPEAKER_02

And he's a good human being. Yeah, great. Great guy. Such a great guy.

SPEAKER_12

He's just the best. That's why when he works heel, I'm like, I fucking love this guy.

SPEAKER_02

Like he did a video for me to go on to my interview thing just a minute ago, and it had me in tears because I didn't know this guy so much of me. You know, I was like, we just wrestled and laughs and shows, and he's like, that big smile Adam's always got, you know.

SPEAKER_12

He talked about he talked so good about just me selling toys over here and just talking about the stuff I had to do.

SPEAKER_05

Just lifting you up.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I love you, man. Guys, it's been awesome. It's been awesome. Thank you guys. Worker shoot. Love you all, love what you've done. And you are looking at still the KCW Tag Team Champions. And you guys have a good night, and God bless you all. Y'all get a good night.

SPEAKER_05

Go eat some ibuprofen. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Love you, boys.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you all.

SPEAKER_12

Crazo's always creeping. Alright, boys. It seems like we're gonna have to get out of here. It looks a whole lot like, smells a whole lot like, feels a whole lot like everything. Bobby Kang.

SPEAKER_11

We might be going over.

SPEAKER_12

Bobby Kang. He didn't even just ignores me every time I yell at him like Bobby Kang. Yeah, we might we might be going over Krazo's back. Krazo's back for his podcast.

SPEAKER_03

Get off my podcast and go home.

SPEAKER_12

We're getting off his podcast and going home. Alright, boys. Y'all, you boys got anything else?

SPEAKER_11

Love you, Mom.

SPEAKER_12

Love you, Mom.

SPEAKER_11

As always. God wrestling's good.

SPEAKER_10

God wrestling so good. Don't be a mark today. Ring the bell.

SPEAKER_00

Whether you wanna call it work or shoot. If you get on me, I'm gonna get on you ass. If you wanna work, we can work. If you wanna shoot, I'll beat your ass. I'll whoop your ass.